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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55352368

Firstly let's name it the "Nathan Baker" rule.

 "To avoid potential abuse of the rule, opposition teams will also be able to make a change at the same time."

I think this is ok, but I'd like it to go further. I'm sick of players faking head injuries to stop the game.

If you go down, clutching your head, sub them for their own safety. Let's not risk it, and let's get rid of cheats at the same time.

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2 minutes ago, Prinny said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55352368

Firstly let's name it the "Nathan Baker" rule.

 "To avoid potential abuse of the rule, opposition teams will also be able to make a change at the same time."

I think this is ok, but I'd like it to go further. I'm sick of players faking head injuries to stop the game.

If you go down, clutching your head, sub them for their own safety. Let's not risk it, and let's get rid of cheats at the same time.

Agree. If they go down clutching their heads they go off for the rest of the match. Might stop some timewasting.

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I'd go a step further and introduce independent doctors at games to assess head injuries, we'd all like to think teams wouldn't cheat the system if they need to make an extra sub but they've used theirs up but look at Harlequins with bloodgate for example, ask recently retired GP's or something to take it up and I'm sure you'd get a lot doing it to be paid to work a few hours twice a week.

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9 minutes ago, Prinny said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55352368

Firstly let's name it the "Nathan Baker" rule.

 "To avoid potential abuse of the rule, opposition teams will also be able to make a change at the same time."

I think this is ok, but I'd like it to go further. I'm sick of players faking head injuries to stop the game.

If you go down, clutching your head, sub them for their own safety. Let's not risk it, and let's get rid of cheats at the same time.

Thank god it’s coming in after Preston!!!

Seriously though, this rule needs a serious thought process to make sure it’s not abused.

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2 hours ago, Prinny said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55352368

Firstly let's name it the "Nathan Baker" rule.

 "To avoid potential abuse of the rule, opposition teams will also be able to make a change at the same time."

I think this is ok, but I'd like it to go further. I'm sick of players faking head injuries to stop the game.

If you go down, clutching your head, sub them for their own safety. Let's not risk it, and let's get rid of cheats at the same time.

Doesn't that rule actually open it up for abuse? The opposition team could bring a player on to temporarily take advantage of the other side's makeshift changes e.g. LB goes off, bring on a quick attacking player to overload that side of the pitch.

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2 hours ago, marmite said:

Agree. If they go down clutching their heads they go off for the rest of the match. Might stop some timewasting.

My only concern is if a player does have concussion but doesn't want come off they won't let on and might cause themselves more trouble like Orr could have done in the payoff final. 

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For those NOT old enought to remember.

In the early days of subs

A Sub was brought in for an "injured player" and it worked fine

Then one manager wanted to get a player off for "tactital reasons" and claimed the player was injured.

The authorities heard about this "substitution" and the refs said we ain't doctors to verify an injury

So authorities then said a sub can be used for ANY purpose

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12 hours ago, Pezo said:

My only concern is if a player does have concussion but doesn't want come off they won't let on and might cause themselves more trouble like Orr could have done in the payoff final. 

If someone's concussed, I'd expect the medical time to be able to identify it.

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17 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Thank god it’s coming in after Preston!!!

Seriously though, this rule needs a serious thought process to make sure it’s not abused.

If a player comes off because of a "head injury/concussion" then said player should then become unavailable for selection again for at least 2 games, and the club have to provide evidence that they have been thoroughly checked over by a qualified doctor/specialist.

That would prevent the rule from being abused just to get an extra sub. Otherwise certain clubs will suddenly get a large increase in "concussion subs".

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6 hours ago, The Bard said:

Is that the one closely followed by Arsenal the other week when a clearly  concussed David Luiz carried on playing because he insisted he was okay? 

Well it applies to players confirmed with concussion. I didn’t say that the actual diagnosis part on the pitch couldn’t or shouldn’t be better.

you’re right they should have took him off, but that’s Arsenals fault

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4 hours ago, MarcusX said:

Well it applies to players confirmed with concussion. I didn’t say that the actual diagnosis part on the pitch couldn’t or shouldn’t be better.

you’re right they should have took him off, but that’s Arsenals fault

Therein lies the problem. The assumption should be that they're concussed until it's shown they aren't. It seems to work on the opposite assumption.

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6 hours ago, The Bard said:

Therein lies the problem. The assumption should be that they're concussed until it's shown they aren't. It seems to work on the opposite assumption.

I don't know about assumption, but yes maybe err on the side of caution. Or independant doctor or something.

My point was just about the 6 match mandatory ban. Bit excessive IMO

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