CodeRed Posted December 18, 2020 Report Share Posted December 18, 2020 Is Mark Ashton The problem is Ashton, Either Dean is not up to the job- If so it's Ashton's fault, his rigorous process claimed to have found the right man to "get us over the line" Or the players aren't good enough. If Ashton signed them it's down to him. if Dean / LJ had full control of signings (they didn't by the way...) then who appointed them? Ashton. Maybe it's the coaches? So who has full responsibility for all football decisions and appointments them. Ashton. Perhaps the recruitment database software is crap? Who supplied & implemented it? Ashton. Maybe the analysts are crap at their job and are identifying the wrong players , and giving the wrong analysis to the coaches? Well who employed them and who do they report to? Ashton. What else could be the problem? We don't have many scouts ( mostly freelance) as we rely on (Ashton's) database but those we do have report to .... Ashton. Discuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted December 18, 2020 Report Share Posted December 18, 2020 Discuss.... what are you - a teacher ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City_USA Posted December 18, 2020 Report Share Posted December 18, 2020 Agreed. My thoughts of MA is best described with one of my favorite British words that the Americans over here don't comprehend......Smarmy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kykoliko Posted December 18, 2020 Report Share Posted December 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said: what are you - a teacher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted December 18, 2020 Report Share Posted December 18, 2020 Just now, Sheltons Army said: Discuss.... what are you - a teacher ? Interesting that you dismiss that with such disdain when the poster has a lot of substance. Are you a teacher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampshire Red Posted December 18, 2020 Report Share Posted December 18, 2020 No, i dont wish to discuss as you ahve asked. Is our positiion anything to do with the 23 other clubs who (strangely!) try to beat City? Of course not, it has all to do with a BCFC employee (who NEVER NEVER got praise from you a week ago when we were remarkaably joint 3rd in the Championship) In other words, dip stick, keep your Capt Hindsight views under cover and dont amke ass of your youself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted December 18, 2020 Report Share Posted December 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, CodeRed said: Is Mark Ashton The problem is Ashton, Either Dean is not up to the job- If so it's Ashton's fault, his rigorous process claimed to have found the right man to "get us over the line" Or the players aren't good enough. If Ashton signed them it's down to him. if Dean / LJ had full control of signings (they didn't by the way...) then who appointed them? Ashton. Maybe it's the coaches? So who has full responsibility for all football decisions and appointments them. Ashton. Perhaps the recruitment database software is crap? Who supplied & implemented it? Ashton. Maybe the analysts are crap at their job and are identifying the wrong players , and giving the wrong analysis to the coaches? Well who employed them and who do they report to? Ashton. What else could be the problem? We don't have many scouts ( mostly freelance) as we rely on (Ashton's) database but those we do have report to .... Ashton. Discuss Just give the crap a rest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeRed Posted December 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said: Discuss.... what are you - a teacher ? I' m interested in people's views - I've stated mine. If you don't have a view or don't wish to comment . Don't. I don't think Holden is the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted December 18, 2020 Report Share Posted December 18, 2020 Some of us have been saying for a very long time he’s a major issue - i agree with what your saying 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted December 18, 2020 Report Share Posted December 18, 2020 1 minute ago, CodeRed said: I' m interested in people's views - I've stated mine. If you don't have a view or don't wish to comment . Don't. I don't think Holden is the problem. Did Ashton pick the team ? Did Ashton decide the formation ? Grow up ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted December 18, 2020 Report Share Posted December 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, TomThumb84 said: Interesting that you dismiss that with such disdain when the poster has a lot of substance. Are you a teacher? See below 2 minutes ago, CodeRed said: I' m interested in people's views - I've stated mine. If you don't have a view or don't wish to comment . Don't. I don't think Holden is the problem. You have already stated that MA made / chose signings and he is the problem Ill await your proof about the signings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Wood Posted December 18, 2020 Report Share Posted December 18, 2020 Just now, CodeRed said: I' m interested in people's views - I've stated mine. If you don't have a view or don't wish to comment . Don't. I don't think Holden is the problem. He's conned his way into Bristol City and now is one of the main problems any manager who comes in should live and die by there signings not his he is the ultimate bull itter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Street red Posted December 18, 2020 Report Share Posted December 18, 2020 Ashton is just a corporate robot it's that simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted December 18, 2020 Report Share Posted December 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said: See below You have already stated that MA made / chose signings and he is the problem Ill await your proof about the signings I’ve seen below and do not really understand why you dismissed the original post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcofisher Posted December 18, 2020 Report Share Posted December 18, 2020 The sad thing is, I honestly think if we had a coach like Howe under MA, it would actually work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted December 18, 2020 Report Share Posted December 18, 2020 Mark Ashton is merely a sympton of the problem, which is Steve Lansdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted December 18, 2020 Report Share Posted December 18, 2020 1 minute ago, marcofisher said: The sad thing is, I honestly think if we had a coach like Howe under MA, it would actually work. Not according to @CodeRed. It seems that Ashton is the root of all evil in his rather deranged mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted December 18, 2020 Report Share Posted December 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Kid in the Riot said: Mark Ashton is merely a sympton of the problem, which is Steve Lansdown. Ok kids, time to give the Natch a rest for the evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted December 18, 2020 Report Share Posted December 18, 2020 20 minutes ago, CodeRed said: Is Mark Ashton The problem is Ashton, Either Dean is not up to the job- If so it's Ashton's fault, his rigorous process claimed to have found the right man to "get us over the line" Or the players aren't good enough. If Ashton signed them it's down to him. if Dean / LJ had full control of signings (they didn't by the way...) then who appointed them? Ashton. Maybe it's the coaches? So who has full responsibility for all football decisions and appointments them. Ashton. Perhaps the recruitment database software is crap? Who supplied & implemented it? Ashton. Maybe the analysts are crap at their job and are identifying the wrong players , and giving the wrong analysis to the coaches? Well who employed them and who do they report to? Ashton. What else could be the problem? We don't have many scouts ( mostly freelance) as we rely on (Ashton's) database but those we do have report to .... Ashton. Discuss I blame the owner personally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted December 18, 2020 Report Share Posted December 18, 2020 1 minute ago, BigTone said: Not according to @CodeRed. It seems that Ashton is the root of all evil in his rather deranged mind. You are my ******* hero!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted December 18, 2020 Report Share Posted December 18, 2020 Just now, Kid in the Riot said: Mark Ashton is merely a sympton of the problem, which is Steve Lansdown. Nail on head however he aint going anywhere so somehow we need MA to do one or relinquish some control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted December 18, 2020 Report Share Posted December 18, 2020 20 minutes ago, CodeRed said: Is Mark Ashton The problem is Ashton, Either Dean is not up to the job- If so it's Ashton's fault, his rigorous process claimed to have found the right man to "get us over the line" Or the players aren't good enough. If Ashton signed them it's down to him. if Dean / LJ had full control of signings (they didn't by the way...) then who appointed them? Ashton. Maybe it's the coaches? So who has full responsibility for all football decisions and appointments them. Ashton. Perhaps the recruitment database software is crap? Who supplied & implemented it? Ashton. Maybe the analysts are crap at their job and are identifying the wrong players , and giving the wrong analysis to the coaches? Well who employed them and who do they report to? Ashton. What else could be the problem? We don't have many scouts ( mostly freelance) as we rely on (Ashton's) database but those we do have report to .... Ashton. Discuss You've apportioned blame to literally everyone in the set-up, except the man that employs them all. Extraordinary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gakoe Posted December 18, 2020 Report Share Posted December 18, 2020 Not sure it's Ashtons fault that during the first half tonight the players seemed to lose all ability to play football. I don't particularly like him btw, just think it's maybe too easy to say all our problems are because of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeRed Posted December 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2020 8 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: You've apportioned blame to literally everyone in the set-up, except the man that employs them all. Extraordinary. No, I'm saying Ashton has control of all football matters - staff, coaches, scouts, analysts, players, all report to him, all are appointed by him ( or by people he has appointed to employ them). The club has the infrastructure ( stadium, training ground, commercial, academy , stable ownership,) to be successful but on the pitch we are not moving forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted December 18, 2020 Report Share Posted December 18, 2020 10 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: You've apportioned blame to literally everyone in the set-up, except the man that employs them all. Extraordinary. Exactly. How we all yearn for a return to the heady days of 1982. Good times back then weren't they. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted December 18, 2020 Report Share Posted December 18, 2020 1 minute ago, CodeRed said: No, I'm saying Ashton has control of all football matters - staff, coaches, scouts, analysts, players, all report to him, all are appointed by him ( or by people he has appointed to employ them). The club has the infrastructure ( stadium, training ground, commercial, academy , stable ownership,) to be successful but on the pitch we are not moving forward. Who do you think gives him that control? Who do you think gives the final sign-off on every single appointment he makes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted December 18, 2020 Report Share Posted December 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, CodeRed said: No, I'm saying Ashton has control of all football matters - staff, coaches, scouts, analysts, players, all report to him, all are appointed by him ( or by people he has appointed to employ them). The club has the infrastructure ( stadium, training ground, commercial, academy , stable ownership,) to be successful but on the pitch we are not moving forward. You really have no idea do you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeRed Posted December 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, BigTone said: Exactly. How we all yearn for a return to the heady days of 1982. Good times back then weren't they. What has 1982 got to do with Lansdown, Ashton, or the issues we face today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted December 18, 2020 Report Share Posted December 18, 2020 1 minute ago, BigTone said: You really have no idea do you. Looks bang on to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted December 18, 2020 Report Share Posted December 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Kid in the Riot said: Who do you think gives him that control? Who do you think gives the final sign-off on every single appointment he makes? Who do you think picks the team ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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