Unan Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 Nothing like a Christmas argument, who's right and who's wrong?! https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2020/dec/21/the-100-best-male-footballers-in-the-world-2020 The judging panel https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/dec/18/how-the-guardian-ranked-the-100-best-male-footballers-in-the-world-2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRIAN WILSON Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 Can't argue that Bayern have 5 in the Top 20 - Superb side But WTF where is Brunt ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 8 minutes ago, BRIAN WILSON said: Can't argue that Bayern have 5 in the Top 20 - Superb side But WTF where is Brunt ? 101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 42 minutes ago, BigTone said: 101 I think I may have found the zero's you lost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmNick Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 8 of the top 10 are forwards - must be some kind of bias there. Perhaps easier to quantify their contribution? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 100 best footballers, surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanburyRed Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 1 hour ago, BigTone said: 101 Room 101? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityBS15 Posted December 25, 2020 Report Share Posted December 25, 2020 The guardian [puke] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted December 25, 2020 Report Share Posted December 25, 2020 3 hours ago, CityBS15 said: The guardian [puke] Whether you agree with their politics or not, the article and list is interesting including the votes given 240 judges across many platforms and far wider than just the guardian themselves Lewandowski was a huge winner. 217/240 judges picked him first. There is a bias for forward players which is a bit grating but interesting to see the general view of best right back, left back etc on the list. These judges watch a lot more European football than all of us so it’s an informative read. A few surprises but generally a good list I’d say. Wipe up your sick and give it a read Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted December 25, 2020 Report Share Posted December 25, 2020 11 hours ago, IAmNick said: 8 of the top 10 are forwards - must be some kind of bias there. Perhaps easier to quantify their contribution? Exactly this. List like this mean nothing irrespective of who the panel are. How can you compare a striker to a right back. At least split it down by position. Anyway, Merry Christmas one and all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Balls Posted December 25, 2020 Report Share Posted December 25, 2020 7 hours ago, formerly known as ivan said: Exactly this. List like this mean nothing irrespective of who the panel are. How can you compare a striker to a right back. At least split it down by position. Anyway, Merry Christmas one and all! Strikers always stand out because they are the ones who most often achieve the aim of the game - scoring goals. Might seem unfair on other players but as we have proven this season, if you can’t score you don’t win matches... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampshire Red Posted December 25, 2020 Report Share Posted December 25, 2020 The rag. It promised Trump would be impeached within weeks, he lasted 4yrs and (almost) got re-elected. They supported that has-been JC (who is still thinking about apologising to the race he despises and thinking which way he might vote if there an EU referendum. The rag can stand our illustrious and successful leader, has seen its readership drop to less than 1.5% of UK papers and so I wouldn't believe a word they say. Probably Messi in 3rd with Smash n grab joint first. Rag for sags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted December 25, 2020 Report Share Posted December 25, 2020 Vardy at 35 seems mad at face value, but clearly rated very highly by his peers. Would love to see him back in the England fold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebounder Posted December 25, 2020 Report Share Posted December 25, 2020 57 minutes ago, Hampshire Red said: The rag. It promised Trump would be impeached within weeks, he lasted 4yrs and (almost) got re-elected. They supported that has-been JC (who is still thinking about apologising to the race he despises and thinking which way he might vote if there an EU referendum. The rag can stand our illustrious and successful leader, has seen its readership drop to less than 1.5% of UK papers and so I wouldn't believe a word they say. Probably Messi in 3rd with Smash n grab joint first. Rag for sags They absolutely detested and worked against Corbyn by undermining him wherever they could. They obviously backed Labour in the GE on the whole, but they weren't pro Corbyn at all as he was far to left for them. List was interesting btw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan djurichimovic Posted December 25, 2020 Report Share Posted December 25, 2020 So according to this we done pritty well only letting manure score one goal with 19th and 25th best players in the world upfront!! How theyre both above allison possibly best kepper in the world shows its not a fair way of deciding best players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bas's perfect hattrick Posted December 25, 2020 Report Share Posted December 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Hampshire Red said: The rag. It promised Trump would be impeached within weeks, he lasted 4yrs and (almost) got re-elected. They supported that has-been JC (who is still thinking about apologising to the race he despises and thinking which way he might vote if there an EU referendum. The rag can stand our illustrious and successful leader, has seen its readership drop to less than 1.5% of UK papers and so I wouldn't believe a word they say. Probably Messi in 3rd with Smash n grab joint first. Rag for sags Which illustrious and successful leader is that? Dean Holden? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted December 25, 2020 Report Share Posted December 25, 2020 23 hours ago, David Brent said: 100 best footballers, surely? They did 100 best women prior to this so makes sense to differentiate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 5 hours ago, WolfOfWestStreet said: Vardy at 35 seems mad at face value, but clearly rated very highly by his peers. Would love to see him back in the England fold. Why's it mad? He's one of the best strikers in europe and has been for 5 years. If you want to see what is wrong with the list compare 29 and 30. Sancho at 29 is actually mad. He's done absolutely double **** all this year. Just goes to show too many people look at 'promise' rather than actual performance. David Alaba on the other hand is a hugely impressive player, vital to the best team in the world. Of similar standing to Virgil Van Dyk. Looking at who chose the list it's mostly journos. So not exactly being chosen by people who understand the game, rather they are adept at talking about it and creating a narrative which is what Sancho's write up is all about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 Honestly I reckon if I could pick one, just one human, to play football for my team, to give my team the overall best chance of winning...I reckon i'd go for Hueng Min Son. One or two years ago it's Portuguese Ronaldo but right now I reckon Son is the best all-around, pound-for-pound footballer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 Where's the 100 top humans? I want to see Holden win something this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 Lewandowski is obviously not a better footballer than Lionel Messi. No one is. He had a great season and scored a lot of goals, but in terms of overall game Messi is on a different level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 11 hours ago, The Bard said: Why's it mad? He's one of the best strikers in europe and has been for 5 years. If you want to see what is wrong with the list compare 29 and 30. Sancho at 29 is actually mad. He's done absolutely double **** all this year. Just goes to show too many people look at 'promise' rather than actual performance. David Alaba on the other hand is a hugely impressive player, vital to the best team in the world. Of similar standing to Virgil Van Dyk. Looking at who chose the list it's mostly journos. So not exactly being chosen by people who understand the game, rather they are adept at talking about it and creating a narrative which is what Sancho's write up is all about. I agree with you completely it just seems weird reading vardy as one of the best in the world even though its true. Maybe because of his more humble path to the top. Disagree however with your point about journalists not understanding the game, many of those people are scholars of football. I often enjoy listening to journalists talk about football than ex-players who may have played the game but no nothing about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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