I'm jealous......

[Simon bristol]

1 hour ago, ashton_fan said:

Fam is certainly "good enough to play at this level" but probably not for the top 3 or 4 teams, certainly good enough for a mid-table side (like us)

Yes, hes looking at a goal in every 3 games for us over 3.5 seasons. He isnt ronaldo, but hes a decent championship striker, and as well as that, is a talisman, someone for the fans to get behind and know he will give his best for the cause. Unlike wells

[Davefevs]

5 hours ago, Simon bristol said:

Yes, hes looking at a goal in every 3 games for us over 3.5 seasons. He isnt ronaldo, but hes a decent championship striker, and as well as that, is a talisman, someone for the fans to get behind and know he will give his best for the cause. Unlike wells

Out of interest, Fam and Nahki have started 1 Champ game together this season....the first one v Coventry.

Apart from that opening 56 minutes, they’ve spent just 124 mins on the pitch together this season.  180 in total....2 games worth. Whilst on the pitch together those 180 minutes have yielded 4 goals for the team (1 for Wells and 2 for Diedhiou).

[Simon bristol]

4 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Out of interest, Fam and Nahki have started 1 Champ game together this season....the first one v Coventry.

Apart from that opening 56 minutes, they’ve spent just 124 mins on the pitch together this season.  180 in total....2 games worth. Whilst on the pitch together those 180 minutes have yielded 4 goals for the team (1 for Wells and 2 for Diedhiou).

Cool. I do wonder how fam would fair playing alongside martin, i reckon playing alongside a striker who can feed him chances and share the physical work would really help fam.

[Davefevs]

1 minute ago, Simon bristol said:

Cool. I do wonder how fam would fair playing alongside martin, i reckon playing alongside a striker who can feed him chances and share the physical work would really help fam.

I agree. Posted on another thread (I think) about exactly that.  If Fam’s groin is ok on Tuesday, I’d start him and Martin.

[WolfOfWestStreet]

Like Brentford, we've made huge amounts of money on player sales but we've bought really poorly.

 

Apart from the goalie we have nobody you could call top 5 in their position in the division, in my opinion that's shocking. I mean what did we spend  the 20 milion Webster money on? 

 

[Davefevs]

8 hours ago, WolfOfWestStreet said:

Like Brentford, we've made huge amounts of money on player sales but we've bought really poorly.

 

Apart from the goalie we have nobody you could call top 5 in their position in the division, in my opinion that's shocking. I mean what did we spend  the 20 milion Webster money on? 

 

Here’s what we spent it on:

£24.150m (based on taking fees from various sources)

Lets not forget that Webster was less than £20m after we paid Ipswich their sell-on fee.

[WolfOfWestStreet]

33 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Here’s what we spent it on:

£24.150m (based on taking fees from various sources)

Lets not forget that Webster was less than £20m after we paid Ipswich their sell-on fee.

Thanks for sharing, actually quite a damn lot then . Certainly an argumen for quality over quantity. I guess we were hoping a few of those would turn out to be great Palmer, Massengo, Wells but they just haven't worked as of yet. 

[Northern Red]

9 hours ago, WolfOfWestStreet said:

Like Brentford, we've made huge amounts of money on player sales but we've bought really poorly.

 

Apart from the goalie we have nobody you could call top 5 in their position in the division, in my opinion that's shocking. I mean what did we spend  the 20 milion Webster money on? 

 

Kalas.

[Redtucks]

On 27/12/2020 at 06:25, Numero Uno said:

Chris Honor, anyone would think he was Cafu when he played judging by the way he bangs on about other players.

A bit like many on here then.....................???

 

[Major Isewater]

9 hours ago, WolfOfWestStreet said:

I mean what did we spend  the 20 milion Webster money on? 

An enormous turnip .

[Davefevs]

36 minutes ago, WolfOfWestStreet said:

Thanks for sharing, actually quite a damn lot then . Certainly an argumen for quality over quantity. I guess we were hoping a few of those would turn out to be great Palmer, Massengo, Wells but they just haven't worked as of yet. 

Yep....and apart from Bentley and possibly Kalas nobody is gonna get you £5m+, not in today’s market.

We have a big financial hole to fill.  Brownhill’s sale probably helped overall, but in the next two sets of accounts (this season and next) we really need someone to kick-on to give us some value.

[robin_unreliant]

1 hour ago, Davefevs said:

Here’s what we spent it on:

£24.150m (based on taking fees from various sources)

Lets not forget that Webster was less than £20m after we paid Ipswich their sell-on fee.

Then not forgetting there was £20m ish for Kelly and £8m for brownhill. Seems like a lot has gone to cover wages. 

[Redtrojan]

Also a few years earlier we sold Kodja for a good profit and of course Bryan and Reid also increased the coffers significantly.

We really haven’t spent our considerable incoming transfer fees well .

[Davefevs]

25 minutes ago, robin_unreliant said:

Then not forgetting there was £20m ish for Kelly and £8m for brownhill. Seems like a lot has gone to cover wages. 

Kelly counted as previous season as deal done in May and therefore in 18/19’s accounts.

[robin_unreliant]

4 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Kelly counted as previous season as deal done in May and therefore in 18/19’s accounts.

I'm sure you are right Dave. Looking at your list above, who do we have in the squad that was funded by the LK income though?

It's not just about one year's sales, we have had good money coming in over a few years now but we don't seem to have much value left in what we've spent it on. 

[Davefevs]

5 minutes ago, robin_unreliant said:

I'm sure you are right Dave. Looking at your list above, who do we have in the squad that was funded by the LK income though?

It's not just about one year's sales, we have had good money coming in over a few years now but we don't seem to have much value left in what we've spent it on. 

Yep, my spreadsheet was constructed differently back then....but from a fans point if view you can effectively say Kelly’s £13m and Webster’s £17.5m (let’s say Ipswich got £2.5m sell on) funded last season’s transfers and loans, with undoubtedly a huge hike in wages too.

18/19s accounts included Kelly but from a fans view was really Bryan, Flint and Reid.  They funded:

whilst also trying to cover a £25m loss from 17/18.

[Numero Uno]

3 hours ago, Redtucks said:

A bit like many on here then.....................???

 

Very true tbf, either that or Brian Clough. That’s my point though.......certain comments are best left on forums or in boozers.

[Harry]

6 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Here’s what we spent it on:

£24.150m (based on taking fees from various sources)

Lets not forget that Webster was less than £20m after we paid Ipswich their sell-on fee.

 

4 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Yep, my spreadsheet was constructed differently back then....but from a fans point if view you can effectively say Kelly’s £13m and Webster’s £17.5m (let’s say Ipswich got £2.5m sell on) funded last season’s transfers and loans, with undoubtedly a huge hike in wages too.

18/19s accounts included Kelly but from a fans view was really Bryan, Flint and Reid.  They funded:

whilst also trying to cover a £25m loss from 17/18.

And amazingly, there are still some people out there who think we’ve recruited well.

[Mr Popodopolous]

On 28/12/2020 at 11:41, WolfOfWestStreet said:

Thanks for sharing, actually quite a damn lot then . Certainly an argumen for quality over quantity. I guess we were hoping a few of those would turn out to be great Palmer, Massengo, Wells but they just haven't worked as of yet. 

What Dave said, also consider the Operating losses before Transfer activity etc.

You mentioned Brentford in another post I think? Took a quick look at their accounts the other day.

Profit on Disposal of Player Registrations:

2018-19- £27,201,973

2017/18- £14,068,555

2016/17- £12,773,567

2015/16- £15,443,985

They're old hands at this- very good! This doesn't even include Maupay, Benrahma or Watkins which will be accounted for in 2019/20 and 2020/21 accounts respectively!

On 28/12/2020 at 17:25, Harry said:

 

And amazingly, there are still some people out there who think we’ve recruited well.

Think recruitment hit and miss really- middling, albeit moving forward big fees received to reinvest, this will be a lot less commonplace.

Individually, I think a case can be made for a reasonable number of the players. On an individual basis.