And Its Smith Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Ivorguy said: This is all sounding very bad. Relegation bad if there is dissension in the camp. Come on City sort it out, and fast. Wonder what the returning Palmer thinks? Very hard to get relegated from here. Only need about 13 more points from about 23 games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 8 hours ago, Club and Country said: Unfortunately not mate with regards to where information is coming from and whether people chose to believe me or not, there are serious issues down there at the moment (which is now becoming obvious I think we will all agree) All roads lead to Ashton. Best thing is remove the cancer. A difficult & dirty job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcofisher Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 8 hours ago, Ivorguy said: This is all sounding very bad. Relegation bad if there is dissension in the camp. Come on City sort it out, and fast. Wonder what the returning Palmer thinks? “Wow, this is twice as many star jumps as they do in Wales.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Lerring Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 7 hours ago, And Its Smith said: Very hard to get relegated from here. Only need about 13 more points from about 23 games Seem to remember rovers thinking along those lines on that glorious day in 2014! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 This club becomes more and more like a secret society.........and there is an ongoing dearth of information made available to the supporters who make this club what it is, and it seems to be becoming increasingly so?. With vanilla press conferences and evasive answers as the default setting. I fully appreciate that we cannot be party to every decision,choice and ruling that takes place at the club, for obvious reasons, but their closed book stance is increasingly irritating IMHO I feel that there are some issues that are continuing to frustrate and annoy supporters, which could easily be resolved with some better Public Relations. With so much perceived secrecy,(Nepotism?), it then just continues to fuel rumours, hearsay and falsehoods. I believe with the current disconnect brought on by the Covid situation and the poor performances on the pitch, the club needs to be more open and candid, and give fans more of an insight into some of the goings on at Stalag (M. Ashton) Gate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassomylord Posted January 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 Honesty and transparency is all that we ask for as fans.....at the moment we are getting neither. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 11 minutes ago, Bassomylord said: Honesty and transparency is all that we ask for as fans.....at the moment we are getting neither. For me, this is where JL needs to earn his corn. As chairman of BCFC, he must have read the BP article, possibly this thread, and be aware of Mark Ashton's central role in it all. He should be leading an independent review of our medical department and Ashton's appointments of chums (Rolls, Proctor, his brother-in-law in recruitment, Holden, LJ etc), feed it back to the emperor and make informed decisions which should then be communicated to the fans - the patrons of the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassomylord Posted January 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 minute ago, tin said: For me, this is where JL needs to earn his corn. As chairman of BCFC, he must have read the BP article, possibly this thread, and be aware of Mark Ashton's central role in it all. He should be leading an independent review of our medical department and Ashton's appointments of chums (Rolls, Proctor, his brother-in-law in recruitment, Holden, LJ etc), feed it back to the emperor and make informed decisions which should be communicated to the fans - the patrons of the club. I have seen nothing that suggests Jon Lansdown has the clout or skillset to carry out the above. Sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, tin said: For me, this is where JL needs to earn his corn. As chairman of BCFC, he must have read the BP article, possibly this thread, and be aware of Mark Ashton's central role in it all. He should be leading an independent review of our medical department and Ashton's appointments of chums (Rolls, Proctor, his brother-in-law in recruitment, Holden, LJ etc), feed it back to the emperor and make informed decisions which should then be communicated to the fans - the patrons of the club. Sorry I have missed the brother-in-law in recruitment. Where is this from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 8 minutes ago, Bassomylord said: I have seen nothing that suggests Jon Lansdown has the clout or skillset to carry out the above. Sadly. Beat me to it. Ashton would run rings around him I would imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey 6 Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 17 minutes ago, Selred said: Sorry I have missed the brother-in-law in recruitment. Where is this from? A lot spoken about in this thread. Pages before and after. Believe the man in question is Luke Werhun. https://www.bcfc.co.uk/fanzone/club-information/staff-directory/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Club and Country Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 21 minutes ago, markcarter said: Honest and Open Holden. My arse. The issues were there way before Holden was given the job full time but Ashton knew he was going to tow the line... as he had been the whole time he worked under LJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Bassomylord said: Honesty and transparency is all that we ask for as fans.....at the moment we are getting neither. Genuine question in a hypothetical situation, say either Walsh or Williams actually had long covid effects as opposed to an injury, its a health issue and not an injury so the players are entitled to keep the information as contained as possible. So if you're Holden do you say 'we can't tell the fans what's going on' which would probably annoy quite a few or do you try and cover for them by saying they have injuries and hoping the effects ease off and they can return? Its not always an easy situation for trying to be honest all the time. I'd say for the majority he's tried to be, but when situations become strained has (from a public sense) retreated a bit, which can be understandable. Partly with so many players out injured he doesn't want to advertise to upcoming opponents who could be back and ready to play too easily, were Portsmouth expecting Alfie Mawson to be fit? In their opposition analysis they probably had a 'January return?' against him name or similar, now Dean has chucked his name out and the video Portsmouth have to suddenly try and predict on a few days notice how it could see us line up along with the returns of Adelakun and Owura Edwards, suddenly creates a lot more work and guesswork about their preparations compared to thinking we're an injury ravaged side with minimal rotation open to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 hour ago, tin said: For me, this is where JL needs to earn his corn. As chairman of BCFC, he must have read the BP article, possibly this thread, and be aware of Mark Ashton's central role in it all. He should be leading an independent review of our medical department and Ashton's appointments of chums (Rolls, Proctor, his brother-in-law in recruitment, Holden, LJ etc), feed it back to the emperor and make informed decisions which should then be communicated to the fans - the patrons of the club. He’s too busy with his crayons designing next seasons shirt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Club and Country said: The issues were there way before Holden was given the job full time but Ashton knew he was going to tow the line... as he had been the whole time he worked under LJ Exactly. Deans first managerial job, he won’t rock the boat. apparently Chris Hughton was interviewed a couple of times. I can imagine the conversation now. Hello steve , it’s mark yes mark , what was the outcome with Chris. Oh Hes definitly the man for the job. Unfortunately he’s opinionated , thinks our recruitment process is all wrong and wants to rip it all up. Well, we can’t have people with opinions mark . Give it to Dean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveInSA Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 14 hours ago, Ivorguy said: This is all sounding very bad. Relegation bad if there is dissension in the camp. Come on City sort it out, and fast. Wonder what the returning Palmer thinks? Palmer has COVID, so I reckon he's isolating. It's all a bit conspiracy theorist. Can Holden fire the medical team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadredfred Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 Doesn’t bode well for future recruitment. Reputation like this would spread like wildfire amongst players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 2 hours ago, markcarter said: Open Holden. My arse. Todays countdown conundrum.... Time and place fella, time and place... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blockbrowt1 Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 Personally i think Team Ashton have had their day and should move on. In my eyes they haven't achieved much to make us a better football club or team. Or am i wrong and have they have got something up their sleeves for us? Would be nice to see a statement from him explaining why we are not where most of us would like them to be. Believe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassomylord Posted January 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 Just now, blockbrowt1 said: Personally i think Team Ashton have had their day and should move on. In my eyes they haven't achieved much to make us a better football club or team. Or am i wrong and have they have got something up their sleeves? W Ashton has the Lansdowns wrapped around his finger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blockbrowt1 Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, Bassomylord said: Ashton has the Lansdowns wrapped around his finger. Sorry pushed the button too early. Wasn't the finished post. Twice now :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 Just seen the press conference for Everton’s FA cup game on Sky. Lucas Digne fit and available to play after torn ankle ligaments along with fractured ankle that happened in November. Takes me back to when Andre Gomes had his ankle snapped in half and was back playing in the same season 112 days later. Makes our injury situation look laughable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Bassomylord said: I have seen nothing that suggests Jon Lansdown has the clout or skillset to carry out the above. Sadly. With that surname, surely he has the clout? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassomylord Posted January 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 Just now, Simon bristol said: With that surname, surely he has the clout? Means nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 24 minutes ago, Bassomylord said: Means nothing. Really? You think steve would let ashton take precedent over his own son? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weepywall Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 49 minutes ago, blockbrowt1 said: Personally i think Team Ashton have had their day and should move on. In my eyes they haven't achieved much to make us a better football club or team. Or am i wrong and have they have got something up their sleeves for us? Would be nice to see a statement from him explaining why we are not where most of us would like them to be. Believe! You wont see Ashton when things are not going so well, he's good at hiding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 6 hours ago, tin said: For me, this is where JL needs to earn his corn. As chairman of BCFC, he must have read the BP article, possibly this thread, and be aware of Mark Ashton's central role in it all. He should be leading an independent review of our medical department and Ashton's appointments of chums (Rolls, Proctor, his brother-in-law in recruitment, Holden, LJ etc), feed it back to the emperor and make informed decisions which should then be communicated to the fans - the patrons of the club. Werhun, club secretary....and Head of Operations....a former Oxford employee, and also ex-employee of MA’s consultancy business - Tactical Change. Joined with MA....how cosy. Another ex-Watford connection spending time at the club is Richard Lee, ex-Watford keeper and of Dragons Den fame for his baseball cap range. Not sure what role he plays, but seem to recall a bit of scouting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.D Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 6 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Werhun, club secretary....and Head of Operations....a former Oxford employee, and also ex-employee of MA’s consultancy business - Tactical Change. Joined with MA....how cosy. Another ex-Watford connection spending time at the club is Richard Lee, ex-Watford keeper and of Dragons Den fame for his baseball cap range. Not sure what role he plays, but seem to recall a bit of scouting. Mark Ashton is the blood running through the vein's of this football club, we need a transfusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The hand of RO'D Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 Anyone who thinks Ashton and co are going to get the boot any time soon are deluded. SL thinks the sun shines out of his ass with all the money he’s made from transfers, directly orchestrated by MA, over the last 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRock Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Werhun, club secretary....and Head of Operations....a former Oxford employee, and also ex-employee of MA’s consultancy business - Tactical Change. Joined with MA....how cosy. Another ex-Watford connection spending time at the club is Richard Lee, ex-Watford keeper and of Dragons Den fame for his baseball cap range. Not sure what role he plays, but seem to recall a bit of scouting. Frankly, I was worried when Johnson snr had his relative as a scout and his son in midfield. This is beginning to look more than alarming. We’re starting to see the consequences of a structure that appears to be built by one man based on constructing a personal power-base. Unhealthy in the extreme in my view. No great wonder we couldn’t find a manager who would work in that structure. Reinforces my belief the most important signing this window will be a Director of Football who reports direct to Lansdown and is top of the Club’s management pyramid. Couldn’t care about signing any players until that position is filled. In the Summer, a massive rebuild from top to bottom. Just what Lansdown would not have wanted x5 and, probably, will opt out of doing. I support Bristol City, not Team ******* Ashton. Why does it have to be us who **** things up all the time! I despair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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