Bassomylord Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 Is there a manager in the football league with LESS managerial experience than Dean Holden. My understanding he had 15 games at Oldham and got sacked? Secondly, is there any other club in the Championship or League 1 who would've employed him as a manager???? NO CHANCE. How is this guy managing a proven established championship side (seeking promotion) with so little experience or track record? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 Jason Tindall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 Short thread..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 Wayne Rooney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassomylord Posted December 29, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Davefevs said: Jason Tindall So 92 clubs in the football league. He is 90th? Just now, Alex_BCFC said: Wayne Rooney. Caretaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 I've said it before he's Millen in disguise. Interestingly I have just looked up Millen who is managing in the second tier in Sweden - god knows how we thought he had enough experience when 10 years ago he was our manager and has now got to the lofty heights of the Swedish second tier where he almost got his team relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassomylord Posted December 29, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 Just now, Pezo said: I've said it before he's Millen in disguise. Interestingly I have just looked up Millen who is managing in the second tier in Sweden - god knows how we thought he had enough experience when 10 years ago he was our manager and has now got to the lofty heights of the Swedish second tier where he almost got his team relegated. We employed Holden who got sacked from Oldham in what way is he qualified Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Bassomylord said: We employed Holden who got sacked from Oldham in what way is he qualified This has been done thousands of time he's a good human and apparently that qualifies him. In retrospect we should have approached Mother Teresa before she passed away but once again Ashton and Lansdown missed the opportunity to appoint the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 Corberan had only23 games experience in Cyprus as a #1 before Huddersfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 Munoz 11 games at Dinamo Tbilisi before Watford If you want to go by at time of appointment Steve Cooper hadn't been a club manager before Swansea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Pezo said: This has been done thousands of time he's a good human and apparently that qualifies him. In retrospect we should have approached Mother Teresa before she passed away but once again Ashton and Lansdown missed the opportunity to appoint the best. Do we know we could have offered someone else what they might have wanted at this time? I have my doubts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanker Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 6 hours ago, Bassomylord said: We employed Holden who got sacked from Oldham in what way is he qualified Someone must have thought he was worth a punt. With all the apparent candidates you have wonder what swung the job his way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 5 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Do we know we could have offered someone else what they might have wanted at this time? I have my doubts! Well that's a funny question, the only people that could know that are SL, JL and MA. I doubt the other way - that there isn't another manager in the whole football league better qualified than Holden that we could have offered what they wanted? Not that he would be my first choice but I can't imagine someone like Paul Cook turning us down for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassomylord Posted December 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 9 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Do we know we could have offered someone else what they might have wanted at this time? I have my doubts! Are you seriously suggesting that no one else was interested in the job? I'm assuming I've misinterpreted it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted December 30, 2020 Admin Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Bassomylord said: Are you seriously suggesting that no one else was interested in the job? I'm assuming I've misinterpreted it. I believe you have, re-read the bold bit below 10 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Do we know we could have offered someone else what they might have wanted at this time? This is the thing, maybe we couldn't offer what others wanted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Plage Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 It’s funny because Mr Ashton spun it in a way that not only Holden (who held “the DNA”) he was being supported and mentored by a World Cup and Euro champs winners!!! When in reality the “DNA” meant we would continue in a yes sir mentality as with LJ and considering he was his assistant for so long, why would he play any differently? Plus the other 2 world class coaches who were basically playing fantasy football manager at the FA, with the country’s best £20m+ talent from around the premiership and were actually failed lower league managers at best. Its simple, out of his depth with no experience or support at championship level and to be fair it’s not a good place to learn your craft, if I’m honest I think Stoke have done the best job in recruiting a manager and god knows there was an almighty mess, even more so they are playing good football and getting results... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 8 hours ago, Pezo said: Well that's a funny question, the only people that could know that are SL, JL and MA. I doubt the other way - that there isn't another manager in the whole football league better qualified than Holden that we could have offered what they wanted? Not that he would be my first choice but I can't imagine someone like Paul Cook turning us down for example. Cook I'll grant you. Howe, Hughton, Jokanovic or similar at this time, financial and transfer demands might have proven an issue. However Cook had contractual complexities at Wigan, who knows if there are still restrictive clauses as part of his release from contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 2 hours ago, La Plage said: It’s funny because Mr Ashton spun it in a way that not only Holden (who held “the DNA”) he was being supported and mentored by a World Cup and Euro champs winners!!! When in reality the “DNA” meant we would continue in a yes sir mentality as with LJ and considering he was his assistant for so long, why would he play any differently? Plus the other 2 world class coaches who were basically playing fantasy football manager at the FA, with the country’s best £20m+ talent from around the premiership and were actually failed lower league managers at best. Its simple, out of his depth with no experience or support at championship level and to be fair it’s not a good place to learn your craft, if I’m honest I think Stoke have done the best job in recruiting a manager and god knows there was an almighty mess, even more so they are playing good football and getting results... Stoke are not playing especially good football, in the main. Quite a reactive side. Having said that, not especially bad football either, just don't strike me as a notably footballing side. Is it fair to judge Holden fully until we have a better range of players fit again? Seemed to go quite nicely from September to arguably Huddersfield away, taken as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1ackbird Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 That's p****d on my chips, I was expecting a quiz.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Plage Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Stoke are not playing especially good football, in the main. Quite a reactive side. Ok so they are where they were 12 months ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenners Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 14 hours ago, Lrrr said: Corberan had only23 games experience in Cyprus as a #1 before Huddersfield He learnt from Bielsa though, and it shows in their football at times. Holden learnt from the previous failure we had at this club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Lenners said: He learnt from Bielsa though, and it shows in their football at times. Holden learnt from the previous failure we had at this club. Not really the question though as it was based around lack of games as a #1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 He is appointed to make sure (fool, fool) Ashtons head will not roll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 30 minutes ago, La Plage said: Ok so they are where they were 12 months ago? Much improved no doubt, but a strong footballing side? I'd suggest not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 Thai people stand up to the king. Bristol City fans can not even piss on Ashton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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