Agard Days Night Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 1 hour ago, phantom said: You kept stating the club should be fined when we had the outbreak last November, back then you never explained why? I posted once in November. I fear you’ve mistaken me for another fellow Red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 8 minutes ago, Harry said: It’s a quote from Holden. He said it. Does he elaborate on social distancing measures taken or do we all just jump to conclusions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 11 minutes ago, Masala said: Thank you Inspector Grimm from The Thin Blue Line. He missed Hoity-toity ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, BigTone said: Does he elaborate on social distancing measures taken or do we all just jump to conclusions. The players don’t even socially distance so I’m not sure what Ashton does makes a lot of difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Henry said: The players don’t even socially distance so I’m not sure what Ashton does makes a lot of difference. You mean, in general ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, BigTone said: Does he elaborate on social distancing measures taken or do we all just jump to conclusions. How big do you think some of these dressing rooms are Tone? As I said earlier, I don’t care that it’s Ashton, Lansdown, they could have Noel effing Edmunds in there for all I care - the point is, why is a non-playing person in a dressing room - the players can’t even come out of the same bloody tunnel!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenners Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 Skullduggery. **** Brentford fans, tinpot *****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 15 minutes ago, Davefevs said: https://www.efl.com/news/2020/december/covid-19-protocols-faqs/ https://www.efl.com/siteassets/image/201920/covid-19-documents/return-to-playing-behind-closed-doors-guidance-final-version-cb.pdf the second one is a better doc as it explains red zone etc. Thanks Dave. So this would suggest that the CEO is NOT allowed in the dressing room (as it’s a red zone) Will be very interesting if we do come under an investigation and it transpires we’ve allowed persons into the red zone who should not be permitted. Flip me!! Are we effing stupid!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 47 minutes ago, S25loyal said: It’s a private test centre, it has nothing to do with the current climate. My point is, at a time when tests are frequent and important it seems strange to close a Lab. Now I get everyone needs a break etc, but surely at the moment when cases are high and your customers (City) need tests & results, you would rotate staff to keep open. I would have thought it more likely that a Private facility would stay open over a Public one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 11 minutes ago, Henry said: The players don’t even socially distance so I’m not sure what Ashton does makes a lot of difference. But you are saying what he does could have made a difference. Make your mind up. However, at the end of the day the game is postponed due to Covid. Live with the fact instead of peddling conspiracy theories. If the dressing room is a red zone then I doubt he did what you say. Maybe Holdens words have been misrepresented. Who knows ? Who cares ? Move on and stop trying to make something out of (undoubtedly) nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, BigTone said: But you are saying what he does could have made a difference. Make your mind up. However, at the end of the day the game is postponed due to Covid. Live with the fact instead of peddling conspiracy theory. Think you’re getting me mixed up with Harry. My main point on the subject is - that since football has restarted, covid measures are becoming more and more tokenistic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 Just now, Henry said: Think you’re getting me mixed up with Harry. My main point on the subject is - that since football has restarted, covid measures are becoming more and more tokenistic I am and I apologise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redtucks Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: I would have thought it more likely that a Private facility would stay open over a Public one. Really!!! Isn't that why A & E is where you would ultimately go as a last resort? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Street red Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 8 minutes ago, Harry said: Thanks Dave. So this would suggest that the CEO is NOT allowed in the dressing room (as it’s a red zone) Will be very interesting if we do come under an investigation and it transpires we’ve allowed persons into the red zone who should not be permitted. Flip me!! Are we effing stupid!!! Seems like it he shouldn't be even mixing if going by Holden's comments Ashton seems to spend a little to much time around the dressing room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 Just now, Redtucks said: Really!!! Isn't that why A & E is where you would ultimately go as a last resort? Yep, you go to A&E because your NHS places are shut and you DON'T have Private health insurance. Plus A&E is for accidents and Emergency, not for run of the Mill tests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 19 minutes ago, BigTone said: But you are saying what he does could have made a difference. Make your mind up. However, at the end of the day the game is postponed due to Covid. Live with the fact instead of peddling conspiracy theories. If the dressing room is a red zone then I doubt he did what you say. Maybe Holdens words have been misrepresented. Who knows ? Who cares ? Move on and stop trying to make something out of (undoubtedly) nothing. 11 minutes ago, Henry said: Think you’re getting me mixed up with Harry. My main point on the subject is - that since football has restarted, covid measures are becoming more and more tokenistic 10 minutes ago, BigTone said: I am and I apologise Ah right. So the ‘conspiracy nut job’ comments were aimed at me then? Not sure what you want to see Tone? I’ve laid out facts for you. No conspiracy here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redtucks Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 39 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: Yep, you go to A&E because your NHS places are shut and you DON'T have Private health insurance. Plus A&E is for accidents and Emergency, not for run of the Mill tests. .......and when your (private) dentist is closed on Bank Holiday, and you need urgent treatment, you go to the (public) dental hospital. Public health sevices are more likely available than private health sevices on Bank Holidays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 Hard to fully understand what determines where a game is postponed and where a game goes ahead... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City oz Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 5 hours ago, cityloyal473 said: They were in a mass huddle with Luton prior to that shit show. Could come from anywhere. There's been an an ever observable attitude of malaise by players towards COVID at most games recently, this comes as no surprise. I don't expect professional football to be functioning much longer in the current climate. Season postponed shortly would be my guess. The positive is that we stay in the championship then and potentially don’t get relegated to league 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, Redtucks said: .......and when your (private) dentist is closed on Bank Holiday, and you need urgent treatment, you go to the (public) dental hospital. Public health sevices are more likely available than private health sevices on Bank Holidays. Actually I had a private dentist and he came out when closed, for emergencies. But back to the point. We are talking about a Private Lab, dealing with Tests during a Pandemic. You can't just nip to A&E, you are using a Lab for all players and staff and playing games every 3 days. Tests I imagine are fairly frequent. As I say, I'm surprised they close, not just reduce staff or have a contingency plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 2 hours ago, View from the Dolman said: You're looking for something that really isn't there. They're using the word 'suspended' routinely and have been using it since September. There is only the very odd exception where they've used postponed. Well it was a quick search, on Twitter, under @EFL_Comms account. First one appeared to be from mid December but happy to search every single statement for a Covid related postponement this season and see whether it was postponed or suspended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassomylord Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 3 hours ago, Harry said: This doesn’t seem like it was such a good idea now does it?? (Below) As others have said, I’ve felt as if the ‘protocols’ have been a bit lax in football for a while now. Lots of hand shaking, group hugs etc. We even hear earlier that the likes of our own Mr Ashton, a CEO, is regularly popping into the dressing room before a match. Seems a bit wrong when really as few people as possible should be in there!! At the time I thought it was a strange. Not kneeling? I'm guessing to appease the Luton fan base....so effectively a big group hug instead. Madness tbh....if they don't want to take the knee just don't do it. 30 minutes ago, View from the Dolman said: Hard to fully understand what determines where a game is postponed and where a game goes ahead... they're making it up as they go along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 31 minutes ago, View from the Dolman said: Hard to fully understand what determines where a game is postponed and where a game goes ahead... Hmm, makes me wonder if we've heard the last of it. Plenty of clubs in same boat though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 2 hours ago, BigTone said: Who gives a shit. The situation today is a lot more serious than back in August so any protocol is outdated and totally meaningless. People seem to have this rather bizarre notion that the end of the pandemic is near and that normality is just around the corner. Dream on FFS. The worst is still to come. Each to their own on the Pandemic timescale. Rapid vaccination of the vulnerable will show a pathway to some degree of normality. As it stands, postponements/games not taking place are investigated. That's the starting point. Do I think there's any wrongdoing? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swede Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 We dodged a right hiding if you ask me. I am not sure we've heard the last of it. If its Covid symptoms doesn't that also mean isolation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoh Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 as two of my christmas day guests have covid I am now in perfect isolation behind the wall (cant do the guitar bit). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted January 2, 2021 Report Share Posted January 2, 2021 9 hours ago, Red Ferret said: Morons What was the pre match huddle for ? Questions must be asked we & Luton do this on Tuesday and our following games are then cancelled due to covid. I guess the argument will be the players will be in close contact during the game so does a pre match huddle increase the risk that much ? But I agree the sequence of events after make it look bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted January 2, 2021 Report Share Posted January 2, 2021 8 hours ago, View from the Dolman said: Hard to fully understand what determines where a game is postponed and where a game goes ahead... Very interesting. Mark Ashton's influence at the EFL coming to our rescue I suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon79 Posted January 2, 2021 Report Share Posted January 2, 2021 10 hours ago, Red Ferret said: Morons Yep, but they’re our morons. COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted January 2, 2021 Report Share Posted January 2, 2021 15 hours ago, Bobbie said: Yes what was that huddle about?? They go up in 2 coaches so not to sit next to each other and then they all stand arm in arm with the opposing team for a photo. Bizarre There’s a bit of a difference between 3 hours on a coach breathing the same air and a 5-10 second “huddle” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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