City1984 Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 This may have been covered in the various threads regarding our injuries but am I right in thinking we brought in the fitness guy from arsenal who was there under Arsen Wenger when they had a **** ton of unexplainable injuries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 Think you could be right in a couple of aspects there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 8 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said: Think you could be right in a couple of aspects there Quite probably when it comes to muscle injuries, but fitness coaching will not stop Nathan Baker getting a bang on the head Callum O'Dowda breaking his leg or Jack Hunt getting a gashed ankle. We do seem to get more than our fair share of soft tissue injuries though. I I was always taught that you you were more likely to get injured challenging half-heartedly than by going 100% into a tackle. That may be an issue for some of our lightweights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 I don’t understand why some posters question that the lengthy injury list is down to the medical/physio department................. The fact is that body repairing itself cannot be hurried. Football is a contact sport and injuries happen virtually every game. City have been unlucky. It is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 23 minutes ago, City1984 said: This may have been covered in the various threads regarding our injuries but am I right in thinking we brought in the fitness guy from arsenal who was there under Arsen Wenger when they had a **** ton of unexplainable injuries? The dots are being joined on the Gregor - Joe Williams thread, on the back of Williams reportedly being unhappy at the medical treatment he's received. Long story short, you're talking about Mark Ashton's mate Andy Rolls, who was sacked at West Ham when they were beseiged with injuries. Basically, the buck stops with Ashton. He's brought in his old mate, despite a dire track record for similar negligence at both Arsenal and West Ham. Our injury record since 2018 is not a coincidence, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 26 minutes ago, JonDolman said: I never thought all these injuries were simply down to bad luck Do you have another explanation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, Robbored said: Do you have another explanation? Bored and trolling as usual as you’ve obviously missed the Joe Williams thread , not That’s the Williams injury thread that you are following Try another subject Sad troll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clutton Caveman Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 I would also question our fitness people. This season is seems that we do not have the energy to maintain a press. I have lost count of the number of times I have heard commentators comment that individuals in our team are running out of steam. If your basic level of fitness is not high enough muscle injuries increase when you play under fatigue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 18 minutes ago, Robbored said: I don’t understand why some posters question that the lengthy injury list is down to the medical/physio department................. The fact is that body repairing itself cannot be hurried. Football is a contact sport and injuries happen virtually every game. City have been unlucky. It is what it is. Please explain then why some players are unhappy with their rehab . We’ve been unlucky for three years have we ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said: Please explain then why some players are unhappy with their rehab . We’ve been unlucky for three years have we ? How do you know that some players unhappy with their rehab? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 6 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said: Sad troll You posted a laughing emoji on my earlier post.........why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Robbored said: You posted a laughing emoji on my earlier post.........why? Because I’m laughing at your idiotic attempts to derail another thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, Robbored said: How do you know that some players unhappy with their rehab? It is the main theme in that Williams thread which.. you are following. Surely you have better things to do than play dumb, even if the bowls club is currently closed ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 8 minutes ago, Robbored said: How do you know that some players unhappy with their rehab? Are you serious ? Confirmed by the media . Don’t come back with “it’s not on the os “ bollocks either because it won’t be. Please answer my question to you. Do you think we’ve been unlucky with injuries for THREE years ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: It is the main theme in that Williams thread which.. you are following. Surely you have better things to do than play dumb, even if the bowls club is currently closed ! Nah , they’ve just told him it’s closed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted January 8, 2021 Admin Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 Something a friend of mine mentioned The vast majority of our muscle injuries seem to happen either at Ashton Gate or our training ground rather than at away games Is there an issue with the pitches we are using ? Did we get these injuries before using this new desso pitch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman_Stand Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 minute ago, phantom said: Something a friend of mine mentioned The vast majority of our muscle injuries seem to happen either at Ashton Gate or our training ground rather than at away games Is there an issue with the pitches we are using ? Did we get these injuries before using this new desso pitch? The pitch was in place before the Double winning season wasn't it? I can't recall there being the same level of injuries in that timeframe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 @Robbored Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globe Trotter Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 I wonder if there is an issue with the quality and rigorousness of the medical assessments undertaken when new signings are made, including loanees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturny Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 Didn't we refresh parts of our medical staff with LJ left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 50 minutes ago, Robbored said: I don’t understand why some posters question that the lengthy injury list is down to the medical/physio department................. The fact is that body repairing itself cannot be hurried. Football is a contact sport and injuries happen virtually every game. City have been unlucky. It is what it is. Deluded rubbish. This cannot be explained by luck. Why do clubs employ physios, S&C experts and doctors if it's just down to luck? The better, more intelligently run clubs employ the best people. How come Bristol Bears have less injuries than City? Twice as many players playing a game that has exponentially more concussions and loads more injuries. The answer lies in the leadership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 10 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said: Are you serious ? Confirmed by the media . Don’t come back with “it’s not on the os “ bollocks either because it won’t be. Please answer my question to you. Do you think we’ve been unlucky with injuries for THREE years ? Is it three year? Yeah, I would say that City have been unlucky with injuries. I’m certainly not going to point the finger at the medical/physio departments ineptitude.These guys are fully qualified, professional people who know what they’re doing. The days of Buster Footman are long gone thankfully I daresay that City aren’t the only Championship club to have a lengthy injury list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Club and Country Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 7 minutes ago, Robbored said: Is it three year? Yeah, I would say that City have been unlucky with injuries. I’m certainly not going to point the finger at the medical/physio departments ineptitude.These guys are fully qualified, professional people who know what they’re doing. The days of Buster Footman are long gone thankfully I daresay that City aren’t the only Championship club to have a lengthy injury list. Pointing the finger in that direction is exactly what everyone should be doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 Cringe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 I certainly have little confidence in the way our injured players our managed.... djuric was the worst one,,,, just couldnt get fit, and now we have williams and walsh with the same thing happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneTeamInBristol Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 Of course some injuries are down to bad luck, and they always will be. But the frequency with injuries that occur away from a matchday is down to the medical, fitness and training staff as well as bad luck. Other clubs of course have injuries but we seem to consistently pick up month/season long injuries to key players more than the average championship club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Club and Country said: Pointing the finger in that direction is exactly what everyone should be doing Not me.........I judge things on the available evidence and with regard to injuries there is no evidence that anything is to blame - however if you consider otibs speculation and the media reliable ‘evidence’............ then I just don’t agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 minute ago, OneTeamInBristol said: Of course some injuries are down to bad luck, and they always will be. But the frequency with injuries that occur away from a matchday is down to the medical, fitness and training staff as well as bad luck. Other clubs of course have injuries but we seem to consistently pick up month/season long injuries to key players more than the average championship club. Point Is tho do any of us know how many other Championship clubs have lengthy injuries as we do? We as City fans obviously take a keen interest in our injured players but almost certainly take little interest in other clubs injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneTeamInBristol Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, Robbored said: Point Is tho do any of us know how many other Championship clubs have lengthy injuries as we do? We as City fans obviously take a keen interest in our injured players but almost certainly take little interest in other clubs injuries. We obviously don't take as much notice of other clubs injuries but as 1 example I have two colleagues who are Luton and Reading fans who often comment on how many injuries we seem to get when I update them on which player has gone off injured that weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 11 minutes ago, Robbored said: Not me.........I judge things on the available evidence and with regard to injuries there is no evidence that anything is to blame - however if you consider otibs speculation and the media reliable ‘evidence’............ then I just don’t agree. Jesus you are clueless. They available evidence is that we have miles more injuries than is normal. We wouldn't have sent the likes of Palmer Pring etc out on loan if we thought we'd get so many long term injuries would we?? So we have an abnormal number of injuries. That can only explained by poor strength & conditioning, incorrect diagnosis, poor recovery strategies or overloading in training. Or most likely a combination of them all. Given we have a head of 'Performance', I think all City fans should be pointing their index fingers in that individual's direction as well as that of his previous colleague who appointed him. At the moment 'performance' just isn't happening for a lot of our players. Those recovering from injuries are doing it away from Bristol City with their own specialists or their parent clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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