spudski Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 At last...some common sense. A good read and gives his reasons which I agree with. It's a political organisation not a statement. Football should never be associated with it. Should of stuck with Kick Racism Out. https://www.nottinghampost.com/sport/football/football-news/nottingham-forest-striker-lyle-taylor-4872901 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!james Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 https://www.otib.co.uk/index.php?/topic/208833-taking-the-knee/page/25/#comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 Kick it out does sweet f all if we’re being honest. BLM actually made waves and got people talking. I don’t understand people’s issue with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 Nobody gave a toss about Kick It Out until taking the knee became a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 The fact there is still lots of racism in this country was shoved down people’s throats and they didn’t like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted January 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, BCFCGav said: Kick it out does sweet f all if we’re being honest. BLM actually made waves and got people talking. I don’t understand people’s issue with it. It did get people talking ...then people googled the organisations website and read what they stand for. Imo..BLM has had a negative effect...not a positive one. Where the great majority of fans are fully behind anti racism, it irked many that a political organisation was being backed and that kneeling at the start of every game actually watered down the sentiment. People then resented it. I'm glad a black player has stood up and refused to kneel and use BLM as a statement. He will get more respect for doing so...and him doing so gives a positive slant, that racism is wrong, and that it doesn't have to have a political group behind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiltshire robin Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 Here we go again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 9 minutes ago, spudski said: It did get people talking ...then people googled the organisations website and read what they stand for. Imo..BLM has had a negative effect...not a positive one. Where the great majority of fans are fully behind anti racism, it irked many that a political organisation was being backed and that kneeling at the start of every game actually watered down the sentiment. People then resented it. I'm glad a black player has stood up and refused to kneel and use BLM as a statement. He will get more respect for doing so...and him doing so gives a positive slant, that racism is wrong, and that it doesn't have to have a political group behind it. Why does it keep having to be explained? The political organisation has nothing to do with the message that is being sent by the players taking the knee who are doing it to show solidarity in the fight against those experiencing racism and as a commitment to keep fighting racism. It really is that simple. Everyone knows it by now but yet some people still want to rail against taking the knee which was overwhelmingly supported to continue by players last month (80% in favour). It makes no sense why people get so bent out of shape about it. If players don’t want to do it then that’s up to them, but the overwhelming majority do, and good on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrumpylegs Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 Totally missing the point there. Taking the knee does not mean that you are supporting a political organisation in the same way that singing ‘God Save the Queen’ does not mean that you support the monarchy!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpexile Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, Scrumpylegs said: Totally missing the point there. Taking the knee does not mean that you are supporting a political organisation in the same way that singing ‘God Save the Queen’ does not mean that you support the monarchy!! Then why sing it ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Scrumpylegs said: Totally missing the point there. Taking the knee does not mean that you are supporting a political organisation in the same way that signing ‘God Save the Queen’ does not mean that you support the monarchy!! Wait, what. I'd say singing 'God Save the Queen' absolutely does say you are supporting the monachy. Surely that's the whole point of it. When we get a proper national anthem I'll join in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassomylord Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 Bloke is a bellend. Trying too hard to fit the "classical liberal" bandwagon championed by Grimes Hopkins and other manipulators of the uneducated. Anyone equating the knee to the BLM Org are either doing so deliberately cos they don't want equality or they are thick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassomylord Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 31 minutes ago, BCFCGav said: Kick it out does sweet f all if we’re being honest. BLM actually made waves and got people talking. I don’t understand people’s issue with it. Why would racists want equality defeats the purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassomylord Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 22 minutes ago, spudski said: It did get people talking ...then people googled the organisations website and read what they stand for. Imo..BLM has had a negative effect...not a positive one. Where the great majority of fans are fully behind anti racism, it irked many that a political organisation was being backed and that kneeling at the start of every game actually watered down the sentiment. People then resented it. I'm glad a black player has stood up and refused to kneel and use BLM as a statement. He will get more respect for doing so...and him doing so gives a positive slant, that racism is wrong, and that it doesn't have to have a political group behind it. A perfect example of someone not understanding the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrumpylegs Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, bpexile said: Then why sing it ?? Because it’s the national anthem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassomylord Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 20 minutes ago, lenred said: Why does it keep having to be explained? The political organisation has nothing to do with the message that is being sent by the players taking the knee who are doing it to show solidarity in the fight against those experiencing racism and as a commitment to keep fighting racism. It really is that simple. Everyone knows it by now but yet some people still want to rail against taking the knee which was overwhelmingly supported to continue by players last month (80% in favour). It makes no sense why people get so bent out of shape about it. If players don’t want to do it then that’s up to them, but the overwhelming majority do, and good on them. The reason people get bent out of shape about it is because their racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhitepurple Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 43 minutes ago, BCFCGav said: Kick it out does sweet f all if we’re being honest. BLM actually made waves and got people talking. I don’t understand people’s issue with it. Because you're not educated on it. If your happy with death to whites, empoverishing whites, black supremacy, then you carry on me and the rest will boo as soon as were allowed back in. Lyle taylor needa a medal. No one is against blacks, but blm want you to think that to get compensation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 18 minutes ago, bpexile said: Then why sing it ?? I don’t sing it as not going to sing a song about a fictional character saving a job role (for want of a better expression) that shouldnt exist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 No shit it's a radical left organisation. You're not going to get any change in the US without some radical action ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhitepurple Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 36 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: The fact there is still lots of racism in this country was shoved down people’s throats and they didn’t like it. Lots of racism 26 minutes ago, lenred said: Why does it keep having to be explained? The political organisation has nothing to do with the message that is being sent by the players taking the knee who are doing it to show solidarity in the fight against those experiencing racism and as a commitment to keep fighting racism. It really is that simple. Everyone knows it by now but yet some people still want to rail against taking the knee which was overwhelmingly supported to continue by players last month (80% in favour). It makes no sense why people get so bent out of shape about it. If players don’t want to do it then that’s up to them, but the overwhelming majority do, and good on them. The political organisation has everything to do with it FFS. Like saying the nazi salute had nothing to do with the nazi regime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dredd Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Redwhitepurple said: Because you're not educated on it. If your happy with death to whites, empoverishing whites, black supremacy, then you carry on me and the rest will boo as soon as were allowed back in. Lyle taylor needa a medal. No one is against blacks, but blm want you to think that to get compensation Really? You honestly believe that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 Just now, Dredd said: Really? You honestly believe that? Either thick or a troll. I think the latter as constantly posts nonsense 1 minute ago, Redwhitepurple said: Lots of racism The political organisation has everything to do with it FFS. Like saying the nazi salute had nothing to do with the nazi regime You’re ignorant or not too clever. Or a troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dredd Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, Redwhitepurple said: Because you're not educated on it. If your happy with death to whites, empoverishing whites, black supremacy, then you carry on me and the rest will boo as soon as were allowed back in. Lyle taylor needa a medal. No one is against blacks, but blm want you to think that to get compensation Actually, educate us then. Link us some credible sources to these claims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassomylord Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Redwhitepurple said: Lots of racism The political organisation has everything to do with it FFS. Like saying the nazi salute had nothing to do with the nazi regime Thicko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Leigh of Somerset Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, Shtanley said: No shit it's a radical left organisation. You're not going to get any change in the US without some radical action ffs. This thread aside for a moment, I'd say the U.S. saw plenty of radical action last Wednesday........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassomylord Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, Redwhitepurple said: Because you're not educated on it. If your happy with death to whites, empoverishing whites, black supremacy, then you carry on me and the rest will boo as soon as were allowed back in. Lyle taylor needa a medal. No one is against blacks, but blm want you to think that to get compensation Hopeless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tts_city Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 12 minutes ago, Bassomylord said: The reason people get bent out of shape about it is because their racist. So your saying Lyle Taylor is a racist ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Leigh of Somerset Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 12 minutes ago, Bassomylord said: The reason people get bent out of shape about it is because their racist. 1 minute ago, Bassomylord said: Thicko. Stones - throw - glasshouses..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassomylord Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 Just now, tts_city said: So your saying Lyle Taylor is a racist ? Based on what he has said on the radio....I think he thick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tts_city Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Bassomylord said: Based on what he has said on the radio....I think he thick. I could same the same about your grammar but i am not one for generalisations and bigotry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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