Superjack Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Bassomylord said: Over the top this thread. He has done well and improved. Too many costly mistakes barnsley and Bournemouth and others. You really are a ray of sunshine, aren't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 I think CDM is Zac's position. Calm and reads the game well. Good partnership with Nagy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 Another benefit of Vyner at CDM is he was winning a few headers in there which makes a difference. The lad clearly has a good football brain and is making his harshest critics on here look daft. Liability was one description used the other day...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 The look on his face when he scored. It was WTF, how did THAT go in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor10 Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 Probably only a very close second behind Mawson for MOTM today. He looked really assured and as if he had played there for years. In the games he played last season I wasn’t sure he would be up to it, but he’s coming on well this season and has arguably been our most consistent player. Fair play Zak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 Absolutely loving Zak in midfield. He gives us something we’ve missed there ...... strength . I think have having that added muscle there from a defensively minded player also gave KP the licence he needed to be the all out attacking midfielder that he is .Looked like a very promising combination there today . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 29 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said: The look on his face when he scored. It was WTF, how did THAT go in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 6 hours ago, Davefevs said: Im hoping Zak can do a short term job in there if selected in midfield. I do think he’s got good technique for a defender. But it’s a whole different game in midfield, especially one where we need them to pivot our attack / possession. If it was literally to be an out and out stopper in front of Kalas and Mawson, absolutely, much more logic. Buy, as always, I wait for what I see before nailing my colours to the mast. Agree with that, Dave. I think he’s too weak in the air to carve a career out at this level or above in central defence, but suspect he might have all the attributes to develop into a quality right-back. What do you think? I don’t think he gets a look-in if most of our centre-backs or midfielders are fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loco Rojo Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Davefevs said: He was very composed out there today. Good awareness under challenge, which is a good sign. Him and Nagy complimented each other today....whereas Bakinson and Nagy looked rudderless. Encouraging. I wonder if we might have seen signs if a new position for him? A bit like Reid. I know it was only 1 game, but not an easy opposition and some positives for sure - especially fitting in well with Nagy. A nice change to have positive options with City at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 i really think zak is the nearest player since luke ayling being at ease on the ball could go on to be better too.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoh Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Superjack said: You really are a ray of sunshine, aren't you? thanks I Now have doh! a deer female deer ray a drop of golden sun gambolling through my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 55 minutes ago, tin said: Agree with that, Dave. I think he’s too weak in the air to carve a career out at this level or above in central defence, but suspect he might have all the attributes to develop into a quality right-back. What do you think? I don’t think he gets a look-in if most of our centre-backs or midfielders are fit. Quite happy with him at RCB....his true position. He’s an athlete, quite happy to see more of him at RB, RWB where I think he can also offer us something. CM is a nice little option to view over a period of games. Versatility is gonna be a good asset for him to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 It was so obvious that him and Adam just seemed to click - more than any other partnership has this season. It allowed Adam to get forward so much more and let KP play his game without having to worry about the defensive side too much. I really enjoyed watching our midfield yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 12 hours ago, Lanterne Rouge said: The look on his face when he scored. It was WTF, how did THAT go in? That will be one of those that gets better and better with the telling, by the time he's telling it to his grandkids it'll be "curled it away from the keeper with the outside of my left....." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sglosbcfc Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 12 hours ago, Loco Rojo said: I wonder if we might have seen signs if a new position for him? A bit like Reid. I know it was only 1 game, but not an easy opposition and some positives for sure - especially fitting in well with Nagy. A nice change to have positive options with City at the moment. It is not one game though, he came on v Pompey in midfield and did well and Derek McInnes played him in midfield on a number of occasions for Aberdeen. I would leave him in CDM for Norwich on Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red22 Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 I like Zak playing cdm. Good accurate passing to go through the lines between defence to the attacking players. Doesn't mind taking the risk going forward also. Goal yesterday and also tee'd up Martin for the goal against Portsmouth, deserves huge credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95red Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 If people think vyner is the answer to our midfield then we are doomed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 43 minutes ago, sglosbcfc said: It is not one game though, he came on v Pompey in midfield and did well and Derek McInnes played him in midfield on a number of occasions for Aberdeen. I would leave him in CDM for Norwich on Wednesday. Dean Holden said it was the first time he had played Zak there last week, but as you say, McInnes did last season too. I thought Dean did last season too, but I checked back and it was in fact LJ that brought him on as sub against Sheffield Wednesday in midfield....for the last 2 mins! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Rollason Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 where are we getting this idea that he's weak in the air? Ok he's not as dominant as Kalas ,for instance ,but he's plenty good enough.. last time i saw him play CH he was there every time clearing ball after ball( Luton iirc). Don't be mistaking height for ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 2 hours ago, 95red said: If people think vyner is the answer to our midfield then we are doomed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red22 Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 3 hours ago, 95red said: If people think vyner is the answer to our midfield then we are doomed. Not saying he is the answer but will do a job until Williams is back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 8 minutes ago, KingswoodReds said: Not saying he is the answer but will do a job until Williams is back Williams? I’m just waiting for Pirlo, sorry Walsh to get fit then it’s win after win for the rest of the season....at least that’s what I’ve been promised on here!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95red Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Major Isewater said: The times he lost his marker at cb this season and it cost a goal now he's a midfield dynamo, yeh half decent yesterday but he ain't a midfielder come on behave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, 95red said: The times he lost his marker at cb this season and it cost a goal now he's a midfield dynamo, yeh half decent yesterday but he ain't a midfielder come on behave. Out of interest, how many times is that? Not saying he hasn’t, but if we are being fair and consistent, how many times has Kalas done similarly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95red Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 At least 3 look yourself probably more , my point is he ain't the answer in midfield. Cb/ rb good back up to kalas, mawson and Baker when fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 8 minutes ago, 95red said: At least 3 look yourself probably more , my point is he ain't the answer in midfield. Cb/ rb good back up to kalas, mawson and Baker when fit. So he's no good in midfield because he lost his man 3 times when playing at CH? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95red Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 11 minutes ago, Roger Red Hat said: So he's no good in midfield because he lost his man 3 times when playing at CH? He ain't a midfielder if you think he is I'm happy for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 9 minutes ago, 95red said: At least 3 look yourself probably more , my point is he ain't the answer in midfield. Cb/ rb good back up to kalas, mawson and Baker when fit. I have looked!! That’s why I asked? True mistakes from losing his marker at CB: Vyner - Barnsley (a), Norwich (h), Birmingham (h) if you wanna be harsh Reading (a) Kalas - Norwich (h), QPR (a) if you wanna be harsh Luton (a) As for “ain’t the answer in midfield” - he was yesterday....how bizarre that is!!! Why are we so keen on OTIB to be so definite in our judgement both pre-game when he’s only played 12 minutes in midfield and again after another 90, when actually he played well in that position. FWIW moving from CB to Midfield is a tough ask...as I posted several times last week, but to nail your colours to the mast so early is a bit silly isn’t it. At least observe first and then make a judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95red Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 When you start playing players out of natural position your in trouble ,if you think he's the answer up to you ,I dont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 13 minutes ago, 95red said: When you start playing players out of natural position your in trouble ,if you think he's the answer up to you ,I dont No comment re Vyner in that respect as I've not seen enough of him as a DM, but he did well enough yesterday.. I agree in general with the bold bit (and Johnson had an annoying habit of doing this or getting a player in and then playing him out of position), but the game is littered with young players who started in one position and then had a good career in others. If a player has good all round ability, then most could play a number of positions perfectly well. Vyner may fall into this category and it may turn out to be his best position, but time will tell. If he plays v Norwich, then that will give us a very good indication - but I certainly wouldn't rule him out as a DM after one pretty good game in that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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