Red Exile Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 32 minutes ago, The hand of RO'D said: I completely agree, unfortunately with the current climate it’s a shame it isn’t that easy. I do genuinely believe that DH is just a stop gap between us recruiting a proven manager once everything that’s happening in the world becomes a lot clearer. I keep telling myself that Eddie Howe told us he wants a year off and we’ve filled the gap until then A comforting thought! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City oz Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Sheltons Army said: Do you actually read any of the , often longer intelligent and informative posts on here on a variety of aspects (I’ll give @Davefevs, @Mr Popodopolous and a couple of others posts regarding finances as an example - I’ve been around football for 50 years at various levels , and ok with figures - but their understanding which they then take time to post about to the education of me and many others, is at another level for me and most helpful , educational and informative) There are others on here , for example , who have been involved , or have knowledge of recruitment at City or other professional Clubs and overall there are some / quite a few excellent , intelligent , informed and astute posters on a whole host of directly related subjects IMHO Can you not see the alarm bells or where we are consistently hitting buffers and stalling I don’t see you respond or debate with any of these posts , merely getting on your box over any questions or criticism of the club or those persons involved I think most of the posters are positive and well educated, well probably except for me when I have had a few. You missed one important point though and that is we are CITY SUPPORTERS and we have a right to express comments if they are correct or not and with out OTIB and some of us getting on our soap box in these troubled times what are we supposed too do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cidre Monita Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 There have been 2 notable periods of success under the owner. Garry J and Steve C. How would you describe both people and their teams ? Both big on man management and people skills, both created teams filled with hungry players with something to prove. Warnock, not our favourite person, but manages to work with the man management side to get results, and often very fast. ( half decent turnaround of Boro this season too) Learn from the good examples not the bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 3 hours ago, TonyTonyTony said: How melodramatic is that ffs? Its just an internet forum. There are many people who post bipolar comments - demanding sackings when we lose, and claiming Liam Walsh is Lionel Messi but the majority are fairly pragmatic - but they are not the loudest. Just avoid the forum for 24 hrs after we lose is my advice But what will I do with my time for the next three weeks :laugh:. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Psychopomp said: There have been 2 notable periods of success under the owner. Garry J and Steve C. How would you describe both people and their teams ? Both big on man management and people skills, both created teams filled with hungry players with something to prove. Warnock, not our favourite person, but manages to work with the man management side to get results, and often very fast. ( half decent turnaround of Boro this season too) Learn from the good examples not the bad. Lots of players who play for Colin say he's the best man manager they've ever played for but not necessarily so hot on the tactics side of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 47 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: Lots of players who play for Colin say he's the best man manager they've ever played for but not necessarily so hot on the tactics side of things. But he is a winner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRFTG Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 Lest the OP forget Dean's having to work with the mountain of dross WeeLee left trailing in his wake. If you're obliged to play the likes of Semenyo it's clear shots on target (or any or productive end product) will be as rare as rocking-horse. He should at least be allowed to show his hand at season end showing who he would like to offload & we'll judge him on his intention then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjay Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 6 hours ago, Sheltons Army said: Dean Holden needed the very best support around him , in all aspects to succeed I don’t think he has that and has also inherited somewhat of a mess of a squad and situation - a big ask Dean Holden is a prime example of someone being promoted to one level above his ability (the Peter principle that people in large organisations are promoted to their level of incompetence). It's a great pity, as he seems like a decent bloke who's been thrown under the bus. Of course Coronavirus and a long injury list could prove to be his salvation. Oh and Dean, standing with your hands in your pockets all the time, does not make you look "cool" and in control, but rather accentuates the appearance of a rabbit caught in the headlights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 2 hours ago, BigTone said: But he is a winner He is. His man management gets the best out of players and he only asks them to do what they are capable of. Players who feel that they can perform at the top of their game with no complications. He is the Manager that proves you can adopt relatively simple tactics and get results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: He is. His man management gets the best out of players and he only asks them to do what they are capable of. Players who feel that they can perform at the top of their game with no complications. He is the Manager that proves you can adopt relatively simple tactics and get results. Would love him here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderheadTJ Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 As many podcasts have stated, this season is more of a free hit for DH. Seems like we can tell he’s learning his trade. Injuries have buggered everything up this season. DH Plan B is Chuck 4 strikers on and hope for the best. Does make me question what the 2 experienced assistants are here for? Will be 10th-12th come the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevedon Red Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 29 minutes ago, ZiderheadTJ said: Will be 10th-12th come the end of the season I’d take that now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magicseason Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 23 hours ago, daored said: And replace with who ? Eddie Howe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Magicseason said: Eddie Howe No chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, Magicseason said: Eddie Howe No thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magicseason Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 23 hours ago, harvey54 said: Ahem..... Yes please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, Magicseason said: Eddie Howe And how do you fund bringing Eddie in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magicseason Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 Just now, daored said: And how do you fund bringing Eddie in? Get rid of all the backroom staff, extra coaches and the rest of the circus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, Magicseason said: Eddie Howe I’m sure the once in a lifetime chance to manage a squad with Vyner, Massengo, Bakinson, Moore and Edward’s all learning their trade at this level will see him break all speed limits as the old Porsche hammers it down the motorway.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Magicseason said: Get rid of all the backroom staff, extra coaches and the rest of the circus No pay-offs of their contracts then when you tell them to eff off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Magicseason said: Get rid of all the backroom staff, extra coaches and the rest of the circus Brilliant your answer to fund it is to get rid of everybody else and incur costs in doing so - to then replace with a new coach and new coaching staff with no ******* income Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magicseason Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Numero Uno said: No pay-offs of their contracts then when you tell them to eff off? And the alternative? Many more years of mediocre football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Numero Uno said: No pay-offs of their contracts then when you tell them to eff off? Don’t ask for financial advice off @Magicseason!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magicseason Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 minute ago, daored said: Don’t ask for financial advice off @Magicseason!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 Just now, Magicseason said: And the alternative? Many more years of mediocre football What bit don’t you understand? The club has no income, has made a loss of £10 million will undoubtedly made a bigger loss next year and you want to sack everybody and bring in a new manager who will cost more and want his own back room team ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Magicseason said: And the alternative? Many more years of mediocre football Your alternative is one year of great football, FFP out the window, points deduction, relegation then administration.......yes we have do things better, a lot better but it has to be realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banjo Red Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 25 minutes ago, Magicseason said: Get rid of all the backroom staff, extra coaches and the rest of the circus Take Ashton and his cronies ******* with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1t_ref_again Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 Whilst reading the Cardiff sacking Harris thread, I was interested in the betting and came across this list of managers, which i could have posted on that thread but thought it was also interesting to this one, particularly when some have asked who would you replace him with, I was surprised at the list and some of the names on there. Mick McCarthy Previous Team: APOEL Left: 6 Jan 2021 Paul Cook Previous Team: Wigan Athletic Left: 1 Aug 2020 Craig Bellamy Previous Team: None Mark Bowen Previous Team: Reading Left: 29 Aug 2020 Mark Hughes Previous Team: Southampton Left: 3 Dec 2018 Tony Pulis Previous Team: Sheffield Wednesday Left: 28 Dec 2020 Eddie Howe Previous Team: Bournemouth Left: 1 Aug 2020 Danny Cowley Previous Team: Huddersfield Town Left: 19 Jul 2020 Michael Flynn Current Team: Newport County Time With Team: 3 years 8 mths 12 days Mark Hudson Previous Team: Huddersfield Town Left: 9 Sep 2019 Nigel Pearson Previous Team: Watford Left: 19 Jul 2020 David Wagner Previous Team: Schalke 04 Left: 27 Sep 2020 Nathan Jones Current Team: Luton Town Time With Team: 7 mths 24 days Joey Barton Previous Team: Fleetwood Town Left: 4 Jan 2021 Darren Moore Current Team: Doncaster Rovers Time With Team: 1 year 6 mths 11 days John Terry Previous Team: None Chris Coleman Previous Team: Hebei China Fortune Left: 15 May 2019 Ryan Lowe Current Team: Plymouth Argyle Time With Team: 1 year 7 mths 16 days Lee Bowyer Current Team: Charlton Athletic Time With Team: 2 years 9 mths 30 days Roy Keane Previous Team: Ipswich Town Left: 7 Jan 2011 Derek Adams Current Team: Morecambe Time With Team: 1 year 2 mths 14 days Nigel Adkins Previous Team: Hull City Left: 8 Jun 2019 Gareth Ainsworth Current Team: Wycombe Wanderers Time With Team: 8 years 3 mths 27 days Michael Appleton Current Team: Lincoln City Time With Team: 1 year 4 mths 1 day James Beattie Previous Team: Accrington Stanley Left: 12 Sep 2014 Slaven Bilic Current Team: Beijing Guoan Time With Team: 15 days Tim Cahill Previous Team: None Sol Campbell Previous Team: Southend United Left: 30 Jun 2020 Michael Carrick Previous Team: None Paul Clement Previous Team: Reading Left: 6 Dec 2018 Josep Clotet Ruiz Previous Team: Birmingham City Left: 8 Jul 2020 Robbie Fowler Current Team: East Bengal Time With Team: 3 mths 12 days Simon Grayson Previous Team: Blackpool Left: 12 Feb 2020 Paul Heckingbottom Previous Team: Hibernian Left: 4 Nov 2019 Ian Holloway Previous Team: Grimsby Town Left: 23 Dec 2020 Vladimir Ivic Previous Team: Watford Left: 19 Dec 2020 Slavisa Jokanovic Current Team: Al Gharafa Time With Team: 1 year 7 mths 4 days Henrik Larsson Previous Team: Helsingborg Left: 23 Aug 2019 Grant McCann Current Team: Hull City Time With Team: 1 year 7 mths Martin O'Neill Previous Team: Nottingham Forest Left: 28 Jun 2019 Phil Parkinson Previous Team: Sunderland Left: 29 Nov 2020 Chris Powell Previous Team: Southend United Left: 26 Mar 2019 Gus Poyet Previous Team: Bordeaux Left: 17 Aug 2018 Karl Robinson Current Team: Oxford United Time With Team: 2 years 9 mths 30 days Stephen Robinson Previous Team: Motherwell Left: 31 Dec 2020 Liam Rosenior Current Team: Derby County Time With Team: 2 mths 7 days Gary Rowett Current Team: Millwall Time With Team: 1 year 3 mths Marco Silva Previous Team: Everton Left: 5 Dec 2019 Paul Warne Current Team: Rotherham United Time With Team: 4 years 1 mth 23 days Jonathan Woodgate Previous Team: Middlesbrough Left: 23 Jun 2020 Michael Duff Current Team: Cheltenham Town Time With Team: 2 years 4 mths 11 days Paul Ince Previous Team: Blackpool Left: 21 Jan 2014 Paolo Di Canio Previous Team: Sunderland Left: 23 Sep 2013 Paco Jemez Previous Team: Rayo Vallecano Left: 31 Jul 2020 Tim Sherwood Previous Team: Aston Villa Left: 25 Oct 2015 Patrick Vieira Previous Team: Nice Left: 4 Dec 2020 Steve McClaren Previous Team: Queens Park Rangers Left: 1 Apr 2019 Alan Pardew Previous Team: ADO Den Haag Left: 28 Apr 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted January 22, 2021 Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 On 20/01/2021 at 19:56, Lenners said: No shots on goal, again. It’s pathetic. Sack him. Tonight. Just wondered whether if you were a Liverpool supporter you would be calling for Klopp to be sacked this morning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenners Posted January 22, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 12 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: Just wondered whether if you were a Liverpool supporter you would be calling for Klopp to be sacked this morning? The same Liverpool who had 27 shots, 6 on target, 72% possession and would win that game usually 9 times out of 10? Good comparison mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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