Engvall’s Splinter Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Corsham Ed said: If Fam has no interest in signing a new contract, why are we playing him? To help us stay up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcofisher Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 13 injuries yet an unchanged squad for two matches in 5 days, and not for the first time this season either. The management team also must share some responsibility here.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 There's no leadership at the top and it's all being left to Dean Holden to take the flak. You can understand why he is a bit pissed off and would be snappy with reporters doing their jobs and asking probing questions. It's clear to me that the directive from the top is that Dean will have to make do with what he's got. There will be no incoming this transfer window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted January 20, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 11 minutes ago, Engvall’s Splinter said: To help us stay up? Fires the goal that secures victory to seal our Championship status, and then waves goodbye, packs his bags and heads off to spearhead the attack for Neil Warnock’s Middlesbrough’s assault on the Division for the 2021-22 season. On a free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grifty Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 52 minutes ago, TomThumb84 said: Unless loan player lined up if Fam manages to get sold after the pitch from Ashton to the Sky commentator to increase awareness of Fam’s availability. No doubt at the time Mark Ashton was in full flow and all of the words were rolling into one from him in a display of engineering a piece of recruitment magic. Maybe the commentator was blinded by this wordplay wizardry and delivered both pieces of information off script and in error. This commentator makes up rubbish stories every single game he watches. It makes him think he's ITK, but in reality he's an idiot. I must have heard a story about Holden going on holiday with his Dad about 30 times from this guy. Pointless commentator, that's why Holden doesn't know anything about it, because the guys made it up. The situation with Fam maybe that he's running his contract down, but Gary Weaver doesn't know this, he's made it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted January 20, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 Just now, grifty said: This commentator makes up rubbish stories every single game he watches. It makes him think he's ITK, but in reality he's an idiot. I must have heard a story about Holden going on holiday with his Dad about 30 times from this guy. Pointless commentator, that's why Holden doesn't know anything about it, because the guys made it up. The situation with Fam maybe that he's running his contract down, but Gary Weaver doesn't know this, he's made it up. Hmmmm.... ok, but brave to quote it as a result of a direct conversation and name Mark Ashton. Not sure I buy he has made it up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: There's no leadership at the top and it's all being left to Dean Holden to take the flak. You can understand why he is a bit pissed off and would be snappy with reporters doing their jobs and asking probing questions. It's clear to me that the directive from the top is that Dean will have to make do with what he's got. There will be no incoming this transfer window. I agree. Its when you start adding a few things together. When there is a major announcement coming company’s go through a quiet period, in order to limit the information getting into the public domain. This smells of that to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engvall’s Splinter Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, TomThumb84 said: Fires the goal that secures victory to seal our Championship status, and then waves goodbye, packs his bags and heads off to spearhead the attack for Neil Warnock’s Middlesbrough assault on the Division for the 2021-22 season. On a free. Pretty much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 8 minutes ago, REDOXO said: I agree. Its when you start adding a few things together. When there is a major announcement coming company’s go through a quiet period, in order to limit the information getting into the public domain. This smells of that to me! theres a "rich" owner from across town who wants another club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 The people “running” this club have finally shown themselves to be a busted flush. The owner has failed to see the warning signs. I think Holden is fighting for his job / head-coach career...and although he’s made mistakes of late, he’s been let down by those above him. The financial signs have been there for 2 seasons. They were hamstringing the club, now that hamstring is torn...the irony! I see very similar signs to 8 or so years ago. I don’t think Holden is to blame, that’s not to say he doesn’t have faults, but there’s a bigger picture here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Sheltons Army said: Holden saying there is no truth in us bringing in loan signing Unless Sky have misquoted Ashton you couldn’t make it up Expects a very quiet window 1 hour ago, Sheltons Army said: Radio Bristol - They asked him if there was any truth in Ashton’s claim re loan player incoming Holden was quite clear As I said , unless Sky misquoted Ashton we are looking a laughing stock Are you beginning to connect the dots Shelts. Surely it must be becoming clear to you now who runs the whole recruitment shebang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, Harry said: Are you beginning to connect the dots Shelts. Surely it must be becoming clear to you now who runs the whole recruitment shebang. Time will tell Harry But Ashton isn’t the only one to blame for where we are slowly heading (But due to his role must take a very big lump) Johnson for all the ‘did a good job here’ crap is just as much to blame And the Admiral who owns the ship and appointed his personal pet projects in key roles ultimately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric04 Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 There’s no way Mark Ashton will be appearing on the local media any time soon after the last flaming he got from Geoff on RB. He only appears a) when there’s good news b) he has to, like a change of manager or c) on Robins TV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said: Time will tell Harry But Ashton isn’t the only one to blame for where we are slowly heading (But due to his role must take a very big lump) Johnson for all the ‘did a good job here’ crap is just as much to blame And the Admiral who owns the ship and appointed his personal pet projects in key roles ultimately He’s not 100% to blame, I’ll agree. I’ve always said that. But I’ve maintained for 5 years now, who’s in charge of the ins and outs. As Fevs has mentioned before, he’d have had more respect for LJ if he’d been more outspoken about it. Dean is either not so keen to toe the line, or is just not very good at the propaganda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finley_Smith10 Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 14 minutes ago, Davefevs said: The people “running” this club have finally shown themselves to be a busted flush. The owner has failed to see the warning signs. I think Holden is fighting for his job / head-coach career...and although he’s made mistakes of late, he’s been let down by those above him. The financial signs have been there for 2 seasons. They were hamstringing the club, now that hamstring is torn...the irony! I see very similar signs to 8 or so years ago. I don’t think Holden is to blame, that’s not to say he doesn’t have faults, but there’s a bigger picture here. Do you honestly think we will go down to league one in years to come? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoh Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Finley_Smith10 said: Do you honestly think we will go down to league one in years to come? yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finley_Smith10 Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 Just now, reddoh said: yes Hmmm, I’m not sure, our squad is still strong albeit the shambles that goes on within the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 Sorry if said already...but worth adding the comment the commentator made about Ashton and Famara also included something along the lines of "It comes from the top...the owners have told them to let the contract run down if needed" or words to those effect IIRC. We're all digging into Ashton, rightly so, but if true he's SL's puppet isn't he? No way he's getting the sack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Harry said: He’s not 100% to blame, I’ll agree. I’ve always said that. But I’ve maintained for 5 years now, who’s in charge of the ins and outs. As Fevs has mentioned before, he’d have had more respect for LJ if he’d been more outspoken about it. Dean is either not so keen to toe the line, or is just not very good at the propaganda. He’s in charge (On SLs behalf ) of the purse strings and operating our extremely questionable recruiting set up but he hasn’t been choosing all the players Harry The Ashton / Steve’s Project Johnson has halted momentum and is showing for what it was There’s some tension about and Steve and Son look to have some questions to ask decisions to make , or probably we will let things just rot a bit more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 Right, I've not read through the thread so sorry if I repeat anyone. Firstly, pathetic strategy . There are some players coming into the last few months of contract that should have ben tied up a year ago. Fam and Walsh for example, they would have been expected to have been a part of the team for the foreseeable future, why not tie them down to a contract with enough time to negotiate ? Right, now that's off my chest; I'd be surprised if Ashton said anything to the National Press that he didn't share with local, unless it's a ploy. So I see it as Ashton says we are happy for Fam to run his contract down and go on a free in the summer, we will get our value out on the pitch. I translate that as, don't bother coming in with a stupid low bid, you will have to tempt us to sell. Could be a good play actually. Looks a though Fam isn't signing any time soon. People could think we are desperate for money and offer £250k. Ashton has preemptively told the to 'do one' so any bid will have to be big enough to force us to sell. Might actually bump the price up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, Finley_Smith10 said: Do you honestly think we will go down to league one in years to come? Unless rectified, yes, a distinct possibility. I dislike Ashton, but I do feel that that this is a combined SL/JL/MA/LJ legacy. We don’t have a bad squad, but the wastage I’ve been warning about for two years. Covid finances have helped surface that the family silver has been sold off against a horrendous increase in costs. Unsustainable....The exact opposite of the strategy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herta Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 It’s all a bit Keith Millen like really. Been thinking it for a few weeks now. If things are on that sort of slide the challenge this time is to deal with that without being relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Corsham Ed said: If Fam has no interest in signing a new contract, why are we playing him? Because he's the only striker at the minute actually scoring goals! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 16 minutes ago, Davefevs said: The people “running” this club have finally shown themselves to be a busted flush. The owner has failed to see the warning signs. I think Holden is fighting for his job / head-coach career...and although he’s made mistakes of late, he’s been let down by those above him. The financial signs have been there for 2 seasons. They were hamstringing the club, now that hamstring is torn...the irony! I see very similar signs to 8 or so years ago. I don’t think Holden is to blame, that’s not to say he doesn’t have faults, but there’s a bigger picture here. You really think DH is fighting for his job @Davefevs? I just don’t see City making a change in the current climate. DH does come across as getting more and more “snappy” in his interviews though! Reality is that I believe the squad on paper is good enough to challenge the top six but I don’t believe DH is right to maximise as/when he has all these players at his disposal. Always thought that in giving him the rolling contract, it was on the basis of him steering us through the pandemic before we re-assess. Time will tell... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, Finley_Smith10 said: Hmmm, I’m not sure, our squad is still strong albeit the shambles that goes on within the club The squad can’t be supported with the revenues versus the costs. Priority 1....cost cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoh Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, Finley_Smith10 said: Do you honestly think we will go down to league one in years to come? realist Leeds, Portsmouth 2 minutes ago, Finley_Smith10 said: Hmmm, I’m not sure, our squad is still strong albeit the shambles that goes on within the club don't leave your posts open ended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 Just now, Loosey Boy said: You really think DH is fighting for his job @Davefevs? I just don’t see City making a change in the current climate. DH does come across as getting more and more “snappy” in his interviews though! Reality is that I believe the squad on paper is good enough to challenge the top six but I don’t believe DH is right to maximise as/when he has all these players at his disposal. Always thought that in giving him the rolling contract, it was on the basis of him steering us through the pandemic before we re-assess. Time will tell... Yes, because Ashton will scapegoat him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said: He’s in charge (On SLs behalf ) of the purse strings and operating our extremely questionable recruiting set up but he hasn’t been choosing all the players Harry The Ashton / Steve’s Project Johnson has halted momentum and is showing for what it was There’s some tension about and Steve and Son look to have some questions to ask decisions to make , or probably we will let things just rot a bit more And the incoming loanee which Ashton said we’re hoping to bring in, which Holden knew nothing about?? Tell me again who has final say? Who decides who comes in? Come on now Shelts - the dots are all there for you, stop drawing a wavy line around them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 I’ve been dreading these accounts, not because of FFP, because we are actually fine there, more from how the costs constrain our ability to progress without selling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Yes, because Ashton will scapegoat him. Time will tell but at some point, SL has got to start doubting Mr Ashton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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