Top Robin Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 They are a weak link and contribute f all. And if any one says that Rowe is a hard working and adaptable pro, I'll scream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, Top Robin said: Rowe is a hard working and adaptable pro, I'll scream 'Rowe is a hard working and adaptable pro' .... there you go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, Top Robin said: They are a weak link and contribute f all. And if any one says that Rowe is a hard working and adaptable pro, I'll scream. Rowe is a hard pro, and .... he's a hard pro, mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 Just now, Lrrr said: 'Rowe is a hard working and adaptable pro' .... there you go That’s true If other more expensive signings on higher wages , contributed a fraction of what he has We would be in much better shape Gary Neville and Ashley Cole in their prime would have struggled to cope tonight with the help they were given by others Our full backs arnt top notch but there are more and bigger problems than them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richyy66 Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 Both full backs invite the wide men into the box. They always seem to be miles away from the man allowing them time to either run past them or pick cross the ball into the area with no pressure at all. It's not rocket science. Don't give the wide men any space to receive the ball and if they do then close them down and apply pressure. This has been apparent the last couple of seasons. Jack Hunt is the worst offender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swede Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 Rowe has been the weak link every time he plays. He hasn't the pace to play there not at this level. Time and again he's done but Northern Streaky loves him. Jack Hunt, I can't agree with you there fella. He gets forward, puts a shift in and can play as a wing back or right back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Robin Posted January 20, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, richyy66 said: Both full backs invite the wide men into the box. They always seem to be miles away from the man allowing them time to either run past them or pick cross the ball into the area with no pressure at all. It's not rocket science. Don't give the wide men any space to receive the ball and if they do then close them down and apply pressure. This has been apparent the last couple of seasons. Jack Hunt is the worst offender. Nail on head mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 I thought Rowe was very good on Saturday, but wasn’t tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmNick Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 I think they each had their work cut out for them with Palmer and Adelakun in front of them. I saw Rowe a few times trying to organise Palmer who wasn't responding, leaving Rowe between two jobs - and then he's the one who ends up looking poor while it's really Palmer's lack of discipline which has caused the problem. While they're not top Championship players I think they're both decent personally and show a bit of fight on occasion (and yes I know what Rowe did today) which we're seriously lacking. I'd be looking elsewhere for the cause of our issues before those two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 I think Hunts perfectly serviceable as a mid table full back at this level. Better as a wing back definitely, but I don’t see him as being the biggest issue we have. Rowe I think we’ve had better out of him than we expected, or had any right to expect. I think he let himself down tonight but generally he’s good with work rate and puts a shift in - however as a LB he’s definitely bottom six at this level. What we have to remember though, is he’s cover. And I’d be pretty pissed off if we were paying two top 10 LBs at this level. On the whole, probably the wrong target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 19 minutes ago, Swede said: Rowe has been the weak link every time he plays. He hasn't the pace to play there not at this level. Time and again he's done but Northern Streaky loves him. Jack Hunt, I can't agree with you there fella. He gets forward, puts a shift in and can play as a wing back or right back. Both honest as the day is long.. But limited. You want top six???...... These blokes won't bring it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshbristol Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 Totally agree both full back are not good enough . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2015 Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 They are ok at defending. Nothing else, add nothing going forward, very predictable and have zero guile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 Not gonna rinse Rowe too much as he is probably on about £2k a week but yes it doesn't help that a jobbing League One player is almost ever present. Hunt remains wildly inconsistent but he has had to play too much with Sessegnon out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 2 players being flogged to death thanks to circumstances, one is covering out of position and tonight had nothing to do with any of it. We have played narrow FB's in a back 4 for years, so wide men were ending up with space. Tonight we played narrow against a side that love to get WB's into wide spaces and the cover was Palmer & Adelakun, genius move. Hunt has been very good in spells this year, can be inconsistent but as I said , being flogged. Rowe has done a great job covering, but he is probably better in a 4 as he doesn't look natural as a WB. Again, be good to remember he's playing with no rest because 3 players are injured. For most of the season they've done a decent job, tonight the acres of space the wide men had was more to do with how we set up, than the personnel . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwhitepurple Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 Rowe is league one quality, as is adelukun as is semenyo as is bakinson as is vyner. They are tour problems hunt is a good championship player attacking as well as defensive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Lrrr said: 'Rowe is a hard working and adaptable pro' .... there you go Stop! My ears are starting to bleed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dullmoan Tone Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 There was a moment late on when Tommy Rowe was significantly ahead of Nakki Wells in the Norwich final third and I lost the will to watch. People slate NW but really, what were Holden's tactics if NW is dropping back to cover TR (who had no-one ahead of him) - surely this can't be his vision or strategy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, Dullmoan Tone said: There was a moment late on when Tommy Rowe was significantly ahead of Nakki Wells in the Norwich final third and I lost the will to watch. People slate NW but really, what were Holden's tactics if NW is dropping back to cover TR (who had no-one ahead of him) - surely this can't be his vision or strategy? It’s a modern thinking strategy called ‘The Blitz’ If you’ve been tactically stuffed , outplayed and bossed Throw on anyone who has ever scored a League goal Bit like Charge of the Light Brigade Good for players development too - Nakhi ending up as a left back will help him in the long run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Fox Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 Both our preferred full backs are injured, and these two are being asked to play every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dullmoan Tone Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, Grey Fox said: Both our preferred full backs are injured, and these two are being asked to play every game. With no coaching or direction - are you saying we forgive because they are tired? Last time I looked we had that chap with masses of Premier League defensive experience at Watford sitting on the bench including today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, Grey Fox said: Both our preferred full backs are injured, and these two are being asked to play every game. You think Sessegnon came here as first choice ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 2 hours ago, 1960maaan said: 2 players being flogged to death thanks to circumstances, one is covering out of position and tonight had nothing to do with any of it. We have played narrow FB's in a back 4 for years, so wide men were ending up with space. Tonight we played narrow against a side that love to get WB's into wide spaces and the cover was Palmer & Adelakun, genius move. Hunt has been very good in spells this year, can be inconsistent but as I said , being flogged. Rowe has done a great job covering, but he is probably better in a 4 as he doesn't look natural as a WB. Again, be good to remember he's playing with no rest because 3 players are injured. For most of the season they've done a decent job, tonight the acres of space the wide men had was more to do with how we set up, than the personnel . Out of interest who would you have played instead of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanker Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 Hunt’s an average right back at this level but he did get skinned last night. Their left winger ran rings around him, especially in the second half. It was a bit embarrassing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 7 hours ago, Davefevs said: Out of interest who would you have played instead of them? I would have changed shape, Aarons has scored against us before it's no secret they have a threat wide and their movement creates space. I would have gone to what was supposed to be our favourite set up, 3-5-2 even 5-4-1 just to get someone wide. It was clear from early on last night that there was abut 20 yards of space in the FB areas. The last game they destroyed us because there was no pressure on the passer and we lost runners. We needed more in MF, HA tried hard, but they passed around us. I guess Holden wanted us to be compact and keep us narrow, but Palmer & Adelakun aren't naturals at tracking back. Palmer without the ball walks around a lot, HA did try but looked to be chasing shadows. IMO yesterday was a day for packing the MF and try to stop them finding room. I'm not pretending to have the answers, but I doubt many looked at that side that started, and thought, yeah we've got a real chance. If , to answer your question, we are talking straight swap. I would have gone Bakinson & HNM, slightly better at tracking and maybe a little more presence . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossi the Robin Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 12 hours ago, Top Robin said: They are a weak link and contribute f all. And if any one says that Rowe is a hard working and adaptable pro, I'll scream. Yes, Wells was at fault for the second goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 15 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: I would have changed shape, Aarons has scored against us before it's no secret they have a threat wide and their movement creates space. I would have gone to what was supposed to be our favourite set up, 3-5-2 even 5-4-1 just to get someone wide. It was clear from early on last night that there was abut 20 yards of space in the FB areas. The last game they destroyed us because there was no pressure on the passer and we lost runners. We needed more in MF, HA tried hard, but they passed around us. I guess Holden wanted us to be compact and keep us narrow, but Palmer & Adelakun aren't naturals at tracking back. Palmer without the ball walks around a lot, HA did try but looked to be chasing shadows. IMO yesterday was a day for packing the MF and try to stop them finding room. I'm not pretending to have the answers, but I doubt many looked at that side that started, and thought, yeah we've got a real chance. If , to answer your question, we are talking straight swap. I would have gone Bakinson & HNM, slightly better at tracking and maybe a little more presence . Ta. I don’t have the answers either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 33 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Ta. I don’t have the answers either We are in good company with the head coach Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 I kinda think rowe has done as well as anyone can reasonably have expected. Dasilva is obviously injury prone, and rowe has taken on the left back place in his absence. however, i think hunt and rowe are both out of contract this summer, and both ought to be released, im pretty sure everyone will be? Theres a whole load of wages being spent on baker, weimann, pato, hunt and at some point younger players need to be given some time to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clutton Caveman Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 15 hours ago, JonDolman said: The way we set up certainly didnt make their jobs easy. But I think we needed 2 quality full backs to have any chance tonight. Hunt was shocking, one of those games we would sometimes see from him under LJ, where he can't pass the ball and gets beaten far too easily. Rowe, well always thought he's a bit limited at this level. Played well against Preston. Generally been better this season but some pretty poor displays for a while now except that Preston game. Dasilva I think is class and missing him. And would have loved for us to sign Pereira. To be fair though, we sort our shape out and they should play better, like most other positions where everyone played poorly. Just far too open, and Holden never did anything to sort that. No left back would have played well last night when Palmer has absolutely no idea how or where to play when we don't have possession. He is like Tomlin all over again. Why did we sign this liability of a player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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