headhunter Posted January 22, 2021 Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 https://foreverbristolcity.podbean.com/e/in-conversation-with-bobby-gould/ In this episode of the Forever Bristol City Podcast Bobby talks about his playing and managerial career, some general football topics and starts with his discussing City's performance in Wednesday's game at Norwich City In an illustrious career as a player and manager Bobby Gould's association with Bristol City is but a small part. Signed from West Brom in December 1972 for £69k [a lot of money in those days] after John Galley's transfer to Nottingham Forest it was a short tempestuous period which ended in November the following year when he was sold to West Ham for £80k. Bobby scored 15 goals in 35 appearances. He memorably fell out on the pitch with Gerry Gow [think Dyer/Bowyer 2005 and our own Orr/Carey 2006], scored and played in goal in a match against WBA following Ray Cashley's arm break, and fell out with Alan Dicks on a matter of principle which probably led to his early departure. He managed over 600 games at club level [including 2 spells with the Gas] with the high point being steering Wimbledon to their famous 1988 FA Cup win over Liverpool. Bobby was also manager of the Welsh national side which was his last major job in football Bobby lives in Portishead where his home has been for all bar a few years since he move to City 48 years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted January 22, 2021 Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 hour ago, headhunter said: Signed from West Brom in December 1972 for £69k [a lot of money in those days] after John Galley's transfer to Nottingham Forest it was a short tempestuous period which ended in November the following year when he was sold to West Ham for £80k. Eat your heart out, Mark Ashton / Steve Lansdown! No wonder we went up a few years later, what transfer business! What did we spend that £80k on - Cheese? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeRed Posted January 22, 2021 Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 12 minutes ago, Moments of Pleasure said: Eat your heart out, Mark Ashton / Steve Lansdown! No wonder we went up a few years later, what transfer business! What did we spend that £80k on - Cheese? Cheese was I think £30,000 from Norwich. Plucked from their reserves. What a signing by AD / John Sillett. He was on course to play for England. Until Shilton ended his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted January 22, 2021 Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 Alan Walsh. £18k from Darlington. The best bit of transfer business City have ever done IMO, thank you Terry Cooper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey54 Posted January 22, 2021 Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 Bobby Gould. Overrated footballer, hot air merchant on the radio. Struts around Portzed like Billy Big Nuts. End of a bell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon79 Posted January 22, 2021 Report Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 minute ago, harvey54 said: Bobby Gould. Overrated footballer, hot air merchant on the radio. Struts around Portzed like Billy Big Nuts. End of a bell Not a fan then? COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champion Dung Spreader Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 6 hours ago, headhunter said: https://foreverbristolcity.podbean.com/e/in-conversation-with-bobby-gould/ In this episode of the Forever Bristol City Podcast Bobby talks about his playing and managerial career, some general football topics and starts with his discussing City's performance in Wednesday's game at Norwich City In an illustrious career as a player and manager Bobby Gould's association with Bristol City is but a small part. Signed from West Brom in December 1972 for £69k [a lot of money in those days] after John Galley's transfer to Nottingham Forest it was a short tempestuous period which ended in November the following year when he was sold to West Ham for £80k. Bobby scored 15 goals in 35 appearances. He memorably fell out on the pitch with Gerry Gow [think Dyer/Bowyer 2005 and our own Orr/Carey 2006], scored and played in goal in a match against WBA following Ray Cashley's arm break, and fell out with Alan Dicks on a matter of principle which probably led to his early departure. He managed over 600 games at club level [including 2 spells with the Gas] with the high point being steering Wimbledon to their famous 1988 FA Cup win over Liverpool. Bobby was also manager of the Welsh national side which was his last major job in football Bobby lives in Portishead where his home has been for all bar a few years since he move to City 48 years ago Thanks for that - listened to it all and I don't often listen to whole podcasts. Enjoyed the enthusiasm for the game. Lots of topics covered and funny quotes, e.g. the Clough phone conversation. Would be interesting to know the nature of the disagreement with Alan Dicks regarding the game v Hull City, which lead to BG's transfer request (I think he said the only time he'd requested a transfer in his career). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted January 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 7 hours ago, Champion Dung Spreader said: Thanks for that - listened to it all and I don't often listen to whole podcasts. Enjoyed the enthusiasm for the game. Lots of topics covered and funny quotes, e.g. the Clough phone conversation. Would be interesting to know the nature of the disagreement with Alan Dicks regarding the game v Hull City, which lead to BG's transfer request (I think he said the only time he'd requested a transfer in his career). Thanks. I didn't push him too hard on the Dicks fall out as he said they have never really spoken to this day. He did say it was an away game at Hull and on checking he substituted Gould for the only time in a match they lost 2-1 on 2/10/73. He played and scored against his former club WBA the following week in the game when Cashley broke his arm and he went in goal, and found the net the week after in a 2-0 at Millwall [Whitehead's debut - I was there] but a month later he was gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 Listening now. Nice to hear his views on the match. Great to hear about Don Howe....a very good tactician, who is exactly the type of coach, Lee Johnson could’ve done with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champion Dung Spreader Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 1 hour ago, headhunter said: Thanks. I didn't push him too hard on the Dicks fall out as he said they have never really spoken to this day. He did say it was an away game at Hull and on checking he substituted Gould for the only time in a match they lost 2-1 on 2/10/73. He played and scored against his former club WBA the following week in the game when Cashley broke his arm and he went in goal, and found the net the week after in a 2-0 at Millwall [Whitehead's debut - I was there] but a month later he was gone Yes, I guess that if interviewers are too aggressive, then it's difficult to encourage subjects to participate in podcasts. As Caroline Aherne discovered to her cost as Mrs Merton . So it's a fine line. Also, I suppose that interviewees sometimes help podcasters to get contacts to enable future interviews? Anyway, thanks for all that you do - it's an excellent initiative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red DNA Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 16 hours ago, Moments of Pleasure said: Eat your heart out, Mark Ashton / Steve Lansdown! No wonder we went up a few years later, what transfer business! What did we spend that £80k on - Cheese? So, when we bought all these great players you assume it was the manager at the time who had time to go and watch games all over the country to scout numerous players? Or......maybe it was a scouting network who were asked to look for a type of player requested by the coach / manager, who then fed the information up - to the head of player recruitment (e.g. MA type of person) to sift through all the choices who then finally made recommendations to the board. Nothing has changed except lots of stats etc available online nowadays, we always had someone at the top of recruitment, the information just wasn’t as apparent or publicly available as it is now. MA is just everyone’s scapegoat for doing a job he is employed to go so by the owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Red DNA said: So, when we bought all these great players you assume it was the manager at the time who had time to go and watch games all over the country to scout numerous players? Or......maybe it was a scouting network who were asked to look for a type of player requested by the coach / manager, who then fed the information up - to the head of player recruitment (e.g. MA type of person) to sift through all the choices who then finally made recommendations to the board. Nothing has changed except lots of stats etc available online nowadays, we always had someone at the top of recruitment, the information just wasn’t as apparent or publicly available as it is now. MA is just everyone’s scapegoat for doing a job he is employed to go so by the owner. Are you serious ? In the 70s ? Thats exactly what happened - The manager , asst manager would do much , if not nearly all of the scouting If they were lucky they may have the help of a Chief Scout who had a few contacts As late as the mid late 90s our ‘ scouting network ‘ was Fawthrop (Who rarely left his office and spent much time on Non City interests) , Jock Rae (Who must have been in his 70s) and Mike Gibson who pootled round together watching the odd opponents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 21 minutes ago, Red DNA said: So, when we bought all these great players you assume it was the manager at the time who had time to go and watch games all over the country to scout numerous players? Or......maybe it was a scouting network who were asked to look for a type of player requested by the coach / manager, who then fed the information up - to the head of player recruitment (e.g. MA type of person) to sift through all the choices who then finally made recommendations to the board. Nothing has changed except lots of stats etc available online nowadays, we always had someone at the top of recruitment, the information just wasn’t as apparent or publicly available as it is now. MA is just everyone’s scapegoat for doing a job he is employed to go so by the owner. LJ was happy to make several flights to Verona / Cessana (or wherever it was) to watch Pisano and Djuric. He mentioned he’d made 8 or 9 trips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 16 minutes ago, Davefevs said: LJ was happy to make several flights to Verona / Cessana (or wherever it was) to watch Pisano and Djuric. He mentioned he’d made 8 or 9 trips. I`m sure he was champing at the bit at the thought of glamour trips to Scunthorpe and Colchester too.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 8 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said: I`m sure he was champing at the bit at the thought of glamour trips to Scunthorpe and Colchester too.............. Haha, I bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted January 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 53 minutes ago, Red DNA said: So, when we bought all these great players you assume it was the manager at the time who had time to go and watch games all over the country to scout numerous players? Or......maybe it was a scouting network who were asked to look for a type of player requested by the coach / manager, who then fed the information up - to the head of player recruitment (e.g. MA type of person) to sift through all the choices who then finally made recommendations to the board. Clive Middlemass was Terry Cooper's eyes on the market along with Jock Rae - they drove miles to scout talent in the 80s and had to get it right with the meagre resources at their disposal - Alan Walsh was probably their best find! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 3 hours ago, headhunter said: Thanks. I didn't push him too hard on the Dicks fall out as he said they have never really spoken to this day. He did say it was an away game at Hull and on checking he substituted Gould for the only time in a match they lost 2-1 on 2/10/73. He played and scored against his former club WBA the following week in the game when Cashley broke his arm and he went in goal, and found the net the week after in a 2-0 at Millwall [Whitehead's debut - I was there] but a month later he was gone I thought he left within a week of the incident with Gerry Gow, Dicks thought one of them would have to go and he didn't want to lose Gerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireSection Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 Maybe i met him on an off day but my thoughts on Gould are ones of, "whar an absolute stroker". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted January 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 1 hour ago, ashton_fan said: I thought he left within a week of the incident with Gerry Gow, Dicks thought one of them would have to go and he didn't want to lose Gerry The Gow incident was Brighton at home 17/2/73. Dicks took Gow off after. Referred to in book BCFC, The Modern Era . City still won 3-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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