Abraham Romanovich Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 After watching Cheltenham v Man City and how Tozer’s long throw caused City problems - I wonder why more teams don’t have a long throw specialist? Use to love watching Magnússon chucking them in for all was worth , might upset a few purists but nothing wrong with an old fashion route one approach when the situation presents itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City oz Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 Just now, Abraham Romanovich said: After watching Cheltenham v Man City and how Tozer’s long throw caused City problems - I wonder why more teams don’t have a long throw specialist? Use to love watching Magnússon chucking them in for all was worth , might upset a few purists but nothing wrong with an old fashion route one approach when the situation presents itself. Was there not a Cardiff player 3 or 4 years back that did the exact same. I remember a towel was strategically placed by the side line so he could wipe the ball clean. Any ball in the box is a good ball especially when it comes from the unexpected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted January 24, 2021 Admin Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 It's an interesting point, apart from the goal Manchester City dealt with it easily clearing it everytime. But guess it could be argued it was worth persisting with because they did score from it. Vyner was throwing them long as few weeks back, but will be interesting to see how many teams suddenly start doing it again now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey 6 Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 Vyner has a decent throw on him, surprised we’ve not seen it more now he’s in CM & won’t have to come up from CB for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 39 minutes ago, City oz said: Was there not a Cardiff player 3 or 4 years back that did the exact same. I remember a towel was strategically placed by the side line so he could wipe the ball clean. Andy Legg at Cardiff. Rory Delap was another long throw specialist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 39 minutes ago, Abraham Romanovich said: After watching Cheltenham v Man City and how Tozer’s long throw caused City problems - I wonder why more teams don’t have a long throw specialist? Use to love watching Magnússon chucking them in for all was worth , might upset a few purists but nothing wrong with an old fashion route one approach when the situation presents itself. Its a specialised skill. Go through a squad and few players will be able to go past twenty seven or twenty eight metres. Tozer was going well past that. It might be relevant but his throws were shorter the closer he got to the corners. That may because he couldn't use the same run up. Its not exact but long throws normally need more space. Not all grounds provide space for a five and six step and sometimes more run up. Its something that can be improved by training but has to be progressed with care. Its incredibly easy to injure a player by practicing multiple long throws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 We had so many long throws and genuinely I don’t think it’s a great % play thing unless you have a team who is great in the air. Can only really remember one goal off a long throw for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikep Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 How about maximising our returns from the short throw ins first? Still think we waste too many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 Dave Challinor for Tranmere back when they had that really good side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 30 minutes ago, mikep said: How about maximising our returns from the short throw ins first? Still think we waste too many. Maximising our returns ????? I'd be happy if 50% of our throw ins actually went to our players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocking Red Cyril Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 31 minutes ago, mikep said: How about maximising our returns from the short throw ins first? Still think we waste too many. Agreed our use of throws ins and corners and free kicks is poor Exempt when Wells cleverly Uses the wall for assistance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 If it means the return of the Icelandic 'clap' that no one could agree the speed of, then no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 Cant see much difference between a good long throw or a corner kick so yeah a specialist long thrower always gonna be a bonus..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter1450 Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 46 minutes ago, Cowshed said: Its something that can be improved by training but has to be progressed with care. Its incredibly easy to injure a player by practicing multiple long throws Our boys should be staying well clear of this technique then........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 The Long Throw Inn would have be a good name for a pub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 12 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: If it means the return of the Icelandic 'clap' that no one could agree the speed of, then no. Didn't Greenwood and Foden have a close shave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeRed Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 48 minutes ago, Robbored said: Andy Legg at Cardiff. Rory Delap was another long throw specialist. Tozer did an interview last week and said he'd spent the summer analysing videos of Rory Delap, and that he'd based his technique on RD. He also said there was a big risk of injury as it's a very explosive body movement. Rory Delap's throws were basically as good as winning a corner and Stoke used to play to win throw ins in the attacking third. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 I have no idea how effective they are statistically, but I’ve always loved it when City have done a long throw - it generates excitement in the crowd and provides that sense of anticipation. Moments like like that and crunching tackles, and when the crowd gets irate with the ref, are all part of the enjoyment of football for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 I blame Ian Hutchinson of Chelsea, he invented it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Carey 6 said: Vyner has a decent throw on him, surprised we’ve not seen it more now he’s in CM & won’t have to come up from CB for it. Our movement on throw ins is usually poor when we go short so it is surprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Homer Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 Think more teams should try it like this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Abraham Romanovich said: After watching Cheltenham v Man City and how Tozer’s long throw caused City problems - I wonder why more teams don’t have a long throw specialist? Use to love watching Magnússon chucking them in for all was worth , might upset a few purists but nothing wrong with an old fashion route one approach when the situation presents itself. What I loved about the Magnússon throw, was Ashton Gate's can't-quite-be-really-arsed attempt to ape the might Icelandic army's clap thingy so memorably displayed at the Putin World Cup as Hord wound himself up to launch it. The old-school lads from Dolman B-block and East end glory days of rucking and yore and their coked-up modern day wannabee equivalents shunned this (too "gay") and spat with fury while all the newer sorts attracted to AG these days gave it their, er, best (which was, this being Bristol and the West Country, a pale imitation of something we had seen elsewhere, very much half-arsed, and nothing like committed or enthusiastic enough), and then those of in neither camp kind of squirmed in our seats (thinking, "maybe we should join in? At least it's some noise" "no, sod it; it's terrible") rather like at a Sunday morning at a Church of England service, as the vicar introduces a visiting Gospel choir, and the congregation have to stand and add movement and a little joy and visible enthusiasm - and possibly holding their hands up in the air - to their typically staid and reserved worship. Cringe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abraham Romanovich Posted January 24, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 56 minutes ago, Moments of Pleasure said: rather like at a Sunday morning at a Church of England service, as the vicar introduces a visiting Gospel choir, and the congregation have to stand and add movement and a little joy and visible enthusiasm - and possibly holding their hands up in the air - to their typically staid and reserved worship. Cringe! Good point -who on here here has not been in Church on a Sunday morning squirming with embarrassment at a visiting gospel choir. Not many I suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 7 hours ago, AppyDAZE said: Didn't Greenwood and Foden have a close shave Yes, and those two girls diappeared into Fin air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TedsHeadIs Red Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 7 hours ago, slartibartfast said: I blame Ian Hutchinson of Chelsea, he invented it . Yes, see Chelsea’s winning goal in the 1970 cup final replay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 21 hours ago, slartibartfast said: I blame Ian Hutchinson of Chelsea, he invented it . Remember many years ago, we had a throw in down by the Dolman, Atyeo corner flag. Our long throw taker asked the steward to open the long yellow gate in that corner so he could get a really long run up. The opposition went mad at the ref, who then told us it wasn't permitted. Anyone remember, or know if the ref was right to not allow alterations to perimeter fencing to gain an advantage. There was also the controversy over the use of towels to dry the ball for the home sides use only, stopping the away player using the same towel, but that was quickly stopped. Remember the ball boys hiding the towels behind the hoardings and only getting them out for the home player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 21 minutes ago, The Horse With No Name said: Remember many years ago, we had a throw in down by the Dolman, Atyeo corner flag. Our long throw taker asked the steward to open the long yellow gate in that corner so he could get a really long run up. The opposition went mad at the ref, who then told us it wasn't permitted. Anyone remember, or know if the ref was right to not allow alterations to perimeter fencing to gain an advantage. There was also the controversy over the use of towels to dry the ball for the home sides use only, stopping the away player using the same towel, but that was quickly stopped. Remember the ball boys hiding the towels behind the hoardings and only getting them out for the home player. It was Greg Goodridge and he`d been doing it for a while until some charmless nurk of a ref decided it was against a rule he just made up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderCraig Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 15 hours ago, TedsHeadIs Red said: Yes, see Chelsea’s winning goal in the 1970 cup final replay. 00:17 secs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coppello Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 I often wonder how effective it actually is? I can recall Flint scoring directly off Magnússon's throw against Cardiff but I can't think of any other goals that he assisted by launching it into the box. Did he even get that many pre-assists* from his long throw? *I hate the term pre-assist but I have not made it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 6 minutes ago, Coppello said: I often wonder how effective it actually is? I can recall Flint scoring directly off Magnússon's throw against Cardiff but I can't think of any other goals that he assisted by launching it into the box. Did he even get that many pre-assists* from his long throw? *I hate the term pre-assist but I have not made it up. I seem to remember we scored two in one game off HM`s long throws - it was away at somewhere like Barnsley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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