Bassomylord Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 I think we can all agree that the quality of officiating in this league is mixed at best. But if you haven't seen the "assault" on that Boro Centre back against Blackburn today ypu should have a look. Booted in the face, massive gash and subbed off.....somehow given as a goal kick. Can someone explain the point of the 4th official? Are they not able to get involved and support the ref? I have no sympathy for Warnock but it really doesn't make any sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 Referee report will be interesting as to whether he’s seen it or not, linesman would be behind the Boro player so hard for him, other linesman’s sight may have been blocked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassomylord Posted January 24, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Lrrr said: Referee report will be interesting as to whether he’s seen it or not, linesman would be behind the Boro player so hard for him, other linesman’s sight may have been blocked 4th official. Use a screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeRed Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 16 minutes ago, Lrrr said: Referee report will be interesting as to whether he’s seen it or not, linesman would be behind the Boro player so hard for him, other linesman’s sight may have been blocked Just watched it.... horrendous - the Blackburn player launches himself , high boot outstretched, gets nowhere near the ball , and Fry's face is badly gashed just under the eye. lucky that Fry hasn't lost an eye. Definitely a pen and red card. Ref gives nothing. Warnock's post match interview will be "interesting". ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Bassomylord said: 4th official. Use a screen. Its the championship there's no VAR or anything so 4th official can't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevedon Red Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 Warnock gave the player both barrels when leaving the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Wood Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 Luke Freeman got sent off against Brentford for far less tnan that, it should no doubt have been a penalty and a sending off for serious foul play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimme Shelton Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 Wasn't Fam sent off for something far less than this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 Likelihood here is that the Ref will mention it in his post match report and say he didn’t see it in the game. As no action taken, that can be done and the player will get a retrospective red card. For those saying fourth official - that’s basically VAR - not in at this level currently (thankfully) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 20 minutes ago, JonDolman said: Players that raise their boot head height. Why do modern players not use their heads. Rules need to come in about this as someone will get killed. This includes overhead kicks where the opposing player often has to turn away from to not get a flying boot in the face. There is a horrible video on youtube showing players that have died on the football pitch, some of which are from high boots. Don't advise anyone to watch that one. But it will probably take a high profile death for a big change in the rules of how high you can raise your boot. Because he bottled getting hurt on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 3 hours ago, Bassomylord said: I think we can all agree that the quality of officiating in this league is mixed at best. But if you haven't seen the "assault" on that Boro Centre back against Blackburn today ypu should have a look. Booted in the face, massive gash and subbed off.....somehow given as a goal kick. Can someone explain the point of the 4th official? Are they not able to get involved and support the ref? I have no sympathy for Warnock but it really doesn't make any sense. The fourth official is their primarily in case one of the other three officials gets injured. No fourth official, potentially no game!. He spends 90 minutes getting abuse and stick from the managers and coaches from both benches, he sorts out ( potentially) ten substitutes. I am close to someone who is often a fourth official, he tells me it’s horrible, by far the worst job associated with being an official. Regarding your comment about the fourth official getting involved in the Blackburn incident, he will be 60 yards away!!, unless you can supply him with binoculars, I don’t think he would have a very good view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Clevedon Red said: Warnock gave the player both barrels when leaving the pitch. And in this case he has every right, yes. Shocking stuff. Surely faces a retrospective ban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 45 minutes ago, JonDolman said: Haven't seen it yet but I guess that's usually the case. If it's head height it should be head it or nothing I think Here you go: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 Blackburn player in the way so ref doesn't see is only reason I can think, perhaps thinks its other defenders head in the challenge when he gives goal kick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobArnold10 Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 There’s two things here. The first is that it’s a penalty and a red card and the officials have had a shocker there. However, the kid is eighteen, he’s made an error and there is absolutely no intent there. If Fry was out player we’d all be screaming blue murder but when you watch the replay he is watching the ball. For Warnock to abuse the guy like that at full time and then play the emotion card to interviewers is awful. He cannot claim the high ground after that. Is he right to feel aggrieved? Yes, but don’t go after the player. He’s acted like he’s done a Roy Keane on him, can’t abide that at all. In cricket, you bowl a bouncer and it hits and hurts the batsman, do you feel bad? Yes. Did you bowl that to injure him? No, you’re trying to mix your line and length up to get a wicket. Everybody moves on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 Putting aside this individual decision, long been disquiet about it in the Championship- not just refereeing but officiating too IMO. From December. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9039597/Championship-clubs-demand-crisis-talks-referees-chief-Mike-Riley-officiating-standards.html https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/12/10/championship-clubs-demand-meeting-poor-standard-refereeing/ See the thread about a clutch of decisions last week- see the QPR denied penalty yesterday, see Lowe's possibly offside goal vs Barnsley again last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 19 minutes ago, RobArnold10 said: There’s two things here. The first is that it’s a penalty and a red card and the officials have had a shocker there. However, the kid is eighteen, he’s made an error and there is absolutely no intent there. If Fry was out player we’d all be screaming blue murder but when you watch the replay he is watching the ball. For Warnock to abuse the guy like that at full time and then play the emotion card to interviewers is awful. He cannot claim the high ground after that. Is he right to feel aggrieved? Yes, but don’t go after the player. He’s acted like he’s done a Roy Keane on him, can’t abide that at all. In cricket, you bowl a bouncer and it hits and hurts the batsman, do you feel bad? Yes. Did you bowl that to injure him? No, you’re trying to mix your line and length up to get a wicket. Everybody moves on. Absolutely, all the way in his eyes were on the ball, nasty challenge and foolish - yes, intent? Definitely not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laner Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Gimme Shelton said: Wasn't Fam sent off for something far less than this? And banned for something no one saw too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 8 minutes ago, Laner said: And banned for something no one saw too. Bailey Wright and his two game ban as well- typical FA, make an example early and forget all about the campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Portland Bill said: The fourth official is their primarily in case one of the other three officials gets injured. No fourth official, potentially no game!. He spends 90 minutes getting abuse and stick from the managers and coaches from both benches, he sorts out ( potentially) ten substitutes. I am close to someone who is often a fourth official, he tells me it’s horrible, by far the worst job associated with being an official. Regarding your comment about the fourth official getting involved in the Blackburn incident, he will be 60 yards away!!, unless you can supply him with binoculars, I don’t think he would have a very good view I remember an interview with Steve Cotterill where he admitted that he'd said to the 4th official "I feel sorry for you because I know it's not your fault but your mate in the middle is having an absolute shocker" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolisredd Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 surely surely surely if his eye is pouring with blood the ref should put 2 and 2 together and give the pen ? Brain dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Bristolisredd said: surely surely surely if his eye is pouring with blood the ref should put 2 and 2 together and give the pen ? Brain dead What - .... guess you mean ? He can only give what he sees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 20 minutes ago, JonDolman said: Blimey. How can anyone even think of using their foot there Shocking isn’t it....although thawing watched if from this angle rather than first angle, I don’t think he meant it....but that means nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted January 24, 2021 Report Share Posted January 24, 2021 26 minutes ago, JonDolman said: Blimey. How can anyone even think of using their foot there How the hell do you get your foot that high - I’m impressed if I can do knee high these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Cyril Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 I thought the ref would have naturally sided with the injured player given they are both semi-blind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsince1994 Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 10 hours ago, JonDolman said: Its weird though. I've never put my foot high to win a ball. If anyone does then surely they know there's a chance of that happening. I don't think I could to be honest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 12 hours ago, RobArnold10 said: There’s two things here. The first is that it’s a penalty and a red card and the officials have had a shocker there. However, the kid is eighteen, he’s made an error and there is absolutely no intent there. If Fry was out player we’d all be screaming blue murder but when you watch the replay he is watching the ball. For Warnock to abuse the guy like that at full time and then play the emotion card to interviewers is awful. He cannot claim the high ground after that. Is he right to feel aggrieved? Yes, but don’t go after the player. He’s acted like he’s done a Roy Keane on him, can’t abide that at all. In cricket, you bowl a bouncer and it hits and hurts the batsman, do you feel bad? Yes. Did you bowl that to injure him? No, you’re trying to mix your line and length up to get a wicket. Everybody moves on. There's no intent, but that would be little consolation if the guy lost his eye or worse. It's not really the same as your example, bowling a bouncer is a typical thing to do. Putting your foot head height in the box is not. Besides all that, awful defending. I don't expect to even see that on a Sunday morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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