Lrrr Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadrunner Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 Is that a promotion with extra duties and wages, do tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 Most of us have had a moan about elements of the club lately and rightly so . This is one area that I think we’re excellent in . I think they’ve got it spot on in terms of younger lads either going out on loan for men’s football , things academy football can’t teach you . Plus the best of u16’s moving up to u18’s 18’ to u23’s . Tinman seems tailor made for the job . Proper city legend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarksRobin Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 Timed to coincide with the move to the new training ground. Makes sense now that the academy and first team will be closer and sharing facilities (once Covid restrictions permit) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 Interesting slant on the ‘academy’ appearances. 93? If they’re including Semenyo (SGS) and Bakinson (Luton) in those stats then you may as well add Moore (Lens) and Massengo (Monaco) in there too. Another “feel good about ourselves” measure trotted out, that is not 100% true. I suppose it depends on your definition of ‘academy’. We certainly didn’t school these guys, they were signed from other clubs after the were 17 years old. Yes, we developed them further, but you could say the same about Dasilva, who was in the same youth team as Bakinson, and we don’t consider Dasilva to be an academy graduate. Anyway - well done Tins. Keep up the good work. One of few people who are capable of displaying competence down there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brady bunch Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 If you hear him speak about it and what he does behind the scenes, it is simply fantastic, He was a true legend anyway and I am so glad he remains part of our club. it is certain not "jobs for the boys", But giving a role to some who is passionate and talented in bring forward the youth side of our club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 38 minutes ago, Lrrr said: Player Pathway Manager ? Is that an actual thing, or are they just making it up on the hoof ? Take a leaf out of parliament.........call him Manager Without Portfolio ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLRed Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 First line of business, recall a youth prospect from his loan to sell on a permanent very clear pathway... only joking, the pathway doesn’t necessarily mean city’s first team but hopefully for many it does. I wonder if we’ve made a profit on Jonny ‘bale’ smith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 9 minutes ago, Harry said: Interesting slant on the ‘academy’ appearances. 93? If they’re including Semenyo (SGS) and Bakinson (Luton) in those stats then you may as well add Moore (Lens) and Massengo (Monaco) in there too. Another “feel good about ourselves” measure trotted out, that is not 100% true. I suppose it depends on your definition of ‘academy’. We certainly didn’t school these guys, they were signed from other clubs after the were 17 years old. Yes, we developed them further, but you could say the same about Dasilva, who was in the same youth team as Bakinson, and we don’t consider Dasilva to be an academy graduate. Anyway - well done Tins. Keep up the good work. One of few people who are capable of displaying competence down there. Yes it mentioned Semenyo & Bakinson in the video . I like your posts Harry and am critical of elements of the club , feel that you’re nit picking for the sake of it with this though . Our academy is in very good hands imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 Just now, steviestevieneville said: Yes it mentioned Semenyo & Bakinson in the video . I like your posts Harry and am critical of elements of the club , feel that you’re nit picking for the sake of it with this though . Our academy is in very good hands imo I agree 100% that our academy is doing well. But yeah, it’s a bit nit-picky, I agree. But I find it a little disrespectful of the clubs that they were actually schooled at. How would Luton, who schooled Bakinson all those years and sold him when he was 18 years old, feel about him being called a Bristol City academy graduate? I don’t wanna be nitpicking, but surely more respectful to Luton to say “93 appearances by our under 23’s” rather than by our “academy players”. Anyway, I’ll leave it there, as you say, it’s probably a bit picky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glastonred Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 26 minutes ago, brady bunch said: If you hear him speak about it and what he does behind the scenes, it is simply fantastic, He was a true legend anyway and I am so glad he remains part of our club. it is certain not "jobs for the boys", But giving a role to some who is passionate and talented in bring forward the youth side of our club. Will always be my favourite City player. He was a joy to behold!... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 13 minutes ago, Harry said: I agree 100% that our academy is doing well. But yeah, it’s a bit nit-picky, I agree. But I find it a little disrespectful of the clubs that they were actually schooled at. How would Luton, who schooled Bakinson all those years and sold him when he was 18 years old, feel about him being called a Bristol City academy graduate? I don’t wanna be nitpicking, but surely more respectful to Luton to say “93 appearances by our under 23’s” rather than by our “academy players”. Anyway, I’ll leave it there, as you say, it’s probably a bit picky. I agree re Luton . I suppose it’s the right loans/ clubs tinnion has sent them to for their progression where the praise is aimed towards . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 13 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said: I agree re Luton . I suppose it’s the right loans/ clubs tinnion has sent them to for their progression where the praise is aimed towards . Hell yeah. Don’t get me wrong. I like Tinnion and he’s done very well developing these guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Street red Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 So he's got the new job of managing the paths at the new training ground.. Always count on tin Man to grit the paths in the winter. Don't want injuries do we Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikep Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 More than happy to have Tins at the club doing a very worthwhile job but, who in heavens name thinks up these ridiculous job titles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 49 minutes ago, slartibartfast said: Player Pathway Manager ? Is that an actual thing, or are they just making it up on the hoof ? Take a leaf out of parliament.........call him Manager Without Portfolio ! Agreed. Great to have Tins on board, with his influence apparently growing. But it is a shit job title. Why not something like Player Development Manager ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red7 Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 23 minutes ago, The Gasbuster said: But it is a shit job title. Why not something like Player Development Manager ? Apparently the job title was chosen at random from a wealth of suggestions sent in by fans, friends of the club etc. The winner was a Mr L Johnson from Sunderland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polly Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 From Player-Manager to Player Pathway Manager. There's progress for you. Nice one TinMan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 2 hours ago, slartibartfast said: Player Pathway Manager ? Is that an actual thing, or are they just making it up on the hoof ? Take a leaf out of parliament.........call him Manager Without Portfolio ! Ashton Gate lollypop man? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 2 hours ago, BOSRed said: First line of business, recall a youth prospect from his loan to sell on a permanent very clear pathway... only joking, the pathway doesn’t necessarily mean city’s first team but hopefully for many it does. I wonder if we’ve made a profit on Jonny ‘bale’ smith? Has he moved on? Thought he is at Swindon on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLRed Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 15 minutes ago, cidered abroad said: Has he moved on? Thought he is at Swindon on loan. Recalled and is being sold to burton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 1 hour ago, mikep said: More than happy to have Tins at the club doing a very worthwhile job but, who in heavens name thinks up these ridiculous job titles? The Director of Nimble Thinking and Strategic Title Development of course... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 2 hours ago, The Gasbuster said: Agreed. Great to have Tins on board, with his influence apparently growing. But it is a shit job title. Why not something like Player Development Manager ? Because we live in the era of corporate speak. It’s why doormen are now called ingress - exit executives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 Extra duties include raking up the leaves that fall on the players pathway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redysteadygo Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 1 hour ago, pongo88 said: Because we live in the era of corporate speak. It’s why doormen are now called ingress - exit executives Doormen? surely you mean bouncers to us old school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 Most of my childhood was spent adoring Tins and I think he does a great job now but was the job advertised? If not then got to ask the question if he is the best candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Pezo said: Most of my childhood was spent adoring Tins and I think he does a great job now but was the job advertised? If not then got to ask the question if he is the best candidate. Well, after six weeks' searching and analysis, together with several interviews, I can only assume he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 17 hours ago, Harry said: I agree 100% that our academy is doing well. But yeah, it’s a bit nit-picky, I agree. But I find it a little disrespectful of the clubs that they were actually schooled at. How would Luton, who schooled Bakinson all those years and sold him when he was 18 years old, feel about him being called a Bristol City academy graduate? I don’t wanna be nitpicking, but surely more respectful to Luton to say “93 appearances by our under 23’s” rather than by our “academy players”. Anyway, I’ll leave it there, as you say, it’s probably a bit picky. It is not not picking. Academies are reviewed and ranked on their effectiveness. A graduate making the first team/pro level is part of the assessment. A player who is not a graduate is not. Presenting A, B, C as academy successes to prospective academy players and their parents .. It is not a positive idea. 18 hours ago, BOSRed said: First line of business, recall a youth prospect from his loan to sell on a permanent very clear pathway... only joking, the pathway doesn’t necessarily mean city’s first team but hopefully for many it does. I wonder if we’ve made a profit on Jonny ‘bale’ smith? In the player packs and presentations given to academy players and parents the pathway means first team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Davefevs Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 Watched that yesterday, good to hear him say he’s involved in 1st team recruitment too. Obviously we don’t know to what degree, but backs up what he said when Holden was appointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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