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7 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said:

Didn’t workout for him with us . Wasn’t fit enough IMO. But could be a good player for Luton. Guaranteed to play well against us :laugh:. Not sure of the contract length he has signed at Luton.

Luton doing some early business signed Cameron Jerome as well today 

Interesting.

Personally I thought he was better than many on here said & was clearly getting fitter & to play Devil’s Advocate, him or Andy King, eh?

Your comments on Jerome are also of note, he’s 35 in August & has just played a season in League One, Luton finished well above us last season but I wonder what the reaction would be on here if he’d been our striker signing this season (think I can guess).

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14 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Interesting.

Personally I thought he was better than many on here said & was clearly getting fitter & to play Devil’s Advocate, him or Andy King, eh?

Your comments on Jerome are also of note, he’s 35 in August & has just played a season in League One, Luton finished well above us last season but I wonder what the reaction would be on here if he’d been our striker signing this season (think I can guess).

One interesting aside here that I can see. Dewsbury-Hall had previously been mooted as saying he was happy to return to Luton, and the positive loan spell may have put them in pole position. Lansbury is their third midfield signing, and will be on enough of a wedge that he’s likely to start. It seems to me that KDH is off Luton’s agenda and is potentially off elsewhere….

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I may be wrong here but didn't Jerome play for Stoke the same time as Nathan Jones was manager there?.

As with GrahamC I actually thought Lansbury played pretty well considering his lack of gametime & fitness & did a lot of the dirty work, its no coincidence that HNM played better when HL was in the side.

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41 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Interesting.

Personally I thought he was better than many on here said & was clearly getting fitter & to play Devil’s Advocate, him or Andy King, eh?

Agree.  On my “fanalysts” forum I wrote this:

“My evaluation of Lansbury.  Wasn’t fit / match fit when he came to us, got slated by the fans as we were on a bad run.  But he steadily improved, was ok in the end.  Willing to go put his foot in, still got nice touches.  My real criticism of him was in a DM role in a 4231 he didn’t make himself available enough for passes.  Strolled too much.”

Your comments on Jerome are also of note, he’s 35 in August & has just played a season in League One, Luton finished well above us last season but I wonder what the reaction would be on here if he’d been our striker signing this season (think I can guess).

The same fanalysts forum are saying that the recruitment team are smashing it.  Jay Socik is the new Technical Recruitment Lead at Luton.  Jay was “BladesAnalytics” on twitter, who got a job at Peterborough 2 seasons back, and subsequently this one at Luton, having been part of the Mrkt Insights team that got into the likes of Swansea and Tampa.  He knows his stuff, undoubtedly, but seeing them sign Cameron Jerome does not fill me with fear that we’ve missed out on an obvious target.  As you say, our fans would be going potty if we signed him.

Smashing it?  Not convinced.

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1 minute ago, Davefevs said:

 

Interesting, followed that guy on Twitter, Jerome is obviously their replacement for Collins & there is clearly no money around but this site would be in uproar if we had signed him.

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I always felt Lansbury was a rather nonsensical signing -unfortunately I was pretty much proven right.

After his lack of football and dreadful recent form, he was always going to take a while to have any kind of positive impact. Pretty redundant for a player you're only bringing in for the short term. He did put in some okay performances towards the end of the season, but it really was too little too late for us (and God was he bad in some of his earlier games).

It's then made worse by the fact that we appear to have focused our efforts on Lansbury rather than bringing in a much needed LB.

Nothing against Lansbury personally, but feels like another one that goes in the silly recruitment file

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17 minutes ago, Supersonic Robin said:

I always felt Lansbury was a rather nonsensical signing -unfortunately I was pretty much proven right.

After his lack of football and dreadful recent form, he was always going to take a while to have any kind of positive impact. Pretty redundant for a player you're only bringing in for the short term. He did put in some okay performances towards the end of the season, but it really was too little too late for us (and God was he bad in some of his earlier games).

It's then made worse by the fact that we appear to have focused our efforts on Lansbury rather than bringing in a much needed LB.

Nothing against Lansbury personally, but feels like another one that goes in the silly recruitment file

He was a poor signing wasn't he. Improved but not what we needed at all

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36 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Interesting, followed that guy on Twitter, Jerome is obviously their replacement for Collins & there is clearly no money around but this site would be in uproar if we had signed him.

The blurb that he’s move to compete with Adebayo….although wonder how theyll replace Collins.

https://www.lutontown.co.uk/news/2021/june/cameron-jerome/

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1 hour ago, Silvio Dante said:

One interesting aside here that I can see. Dewsbury-Hall had previously been mooted as saying he was happy to return to Luton, and the positive loan spell may have put them in pole position. Lansbury is their third midfield signing, and will be on enough of a wedge that he’s likely to start. It seems to me that KDH is off Luton’s agenda and is potentially off elsewhere….

Would love for that "elsewhere" to be here.  Thought he looked a class act....regardless of the fact he sounds like a National Trust venue!

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1 hour ago, Red Army 75 said:

Didn’t workout for him with us . Wasn’t fit enough IMO. But could be a good player for Luton. Guaranteed to play well against us :laugh:. Not sure of the contract length he has signed at Luton.

Luton doing some early business signed Cameron Jerome as well today 

Jerome and Lansbury; I think Luton will come to regret those two signings if only for having absolutely no impact whatsoever.

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1 hour ago, GrahamC said:

Interesting.

Personally I thought he was better than many on here said & was clearly getting fitter & to play Devil’s Advocate, him or Andy King, eh?

Your comments on Jerome are also of note, he’s 35 in August & has just played a season in League One, Luton finished well above us last season but I wonder what the reaction would be on here if he’d been our striker signing this season (think I can guess).

Realise I'm speculating unfairly here and have no basis for this but, given Pearson's comments about the character of the team, I do wonder if the issue with Lansbury was not so much quality as that Pearson didn't feel he had the personality traits he wanted from senior players. That could be nonsense of course. 

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Just now, LondonBristolian said:

Realise I'm speculating unfairly here and have no basis for this but, given Pearson's comments about the character of the team, I do wonder if the issue with Lansbury was not so much quality as that Pearson didn't feel he had the personality traits he wanted from senior players. That could be nonsense of course. 

Which tucks in nicely with some remarks I made yesterday about DH signing these journeymen, at the end of their careers and all we could think was, well they must be coming in to motivate and influence the squad. Frankly they did neither from the little evidence I have seen and very glad they are gone. 

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1 minute ago, LondonBristolian said:

Realise I'm speculating unfairly here and have no basis for this but, given Pearson's comments about the character of the team, I do wonder if the issue with Lansbury was not so much quality as that Pearson didn't feel he had the personality traits he wanted from senior players. That could be nonsense of course. 

To be fair to Pearson, he praised HL for playing through an Achilles injury, so I think it’s just a case of not what he wants.

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30 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

To be fair to Pearson, he praised HL for playing through an Achilles injury, so I think it’s just a case of not what he wants.

Agree with that assessment. Salary demands likely also a factor as we try to reduce the wage bill. I’m not convinced we got good value from Lansbury

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36 minutes ago, WarksRobin said:

Agree with that assessment. Salary demands likely also a factor as we try to reduce the wage bill. I’m not convinced we got good value from Lansbury

Agree, overall, didn't hit the levels I expected.

22 minutes ago, Cardy said:

It sounds like Luton have signed him off the back of one decent first half performance for us against them. Silly boys.

Rule 1: never sign a player just because they played well against you.

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I would say that when he came in he was a little rusty, and looked out of his depth.
After a few games, although he still looked rusty , there were signs he might still have it.
Few more games revealed it wasn't just rust. 😉

With a full pre season he might do a job for Luton, but I wouldn't want him here. Cue his 2 best games of next season being against us.

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I didn’t like this signing at the time and nothing I’ve seen has changed my mind. 
My issue at the time wasn’t his footballing ability - he’s clearly been a good player in the past so there nothing to be disputed over his ability. 
My issue was a) he’s not been fit for years, b) he was on a very very large wage at Villa. 
 

Yes, he cut his contract short to be able to sign on loan, but I’d still guess it was a fairly hefty salary from our perspective. 
Re his fitness, my concern was that, even if he stayed fit, it would take him a fair few games to reach match fitness. Given there were something like 17 games left when he signed, I said at the time it was pointless and expensive as he wouldn’t even be match fit until about 10 or so games left. 
As it transpired, he got injured in game 2, struggled to complete 90 mins in his whole time here, was played in an unfamiliar role for him, and also got a red card! 
What a total waste of time, wages and effort! 

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7 hours ago, Supersonic Robin said:

Also, Luton appear to have made quite a few signings already? I wouldn't have expected them to be so active (and so early)

I wonder what that means for Joe Morrell? Perhaps if he/Wales have a good Euros (and it seems highly likely) then Luton may well cash in (What's the sell on clause?)

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19 minutes ago, E.G.Red said:

I wonder what that means for Joe Morrell? Perhaps if he/Wales have a good Euros (and it seems highly likely) then Luton may well cash in (What's the sell on clause?)

Nothing to do with “cashing in”, Morrell isn’t staying, he only got 5 starts last season & Luton have signed 2 more midfielders this week alone.

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4 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Nothing to do with “cashing in”, Morrell isn’t staying, he only got 5 starts last season & Luton have signed 2 more midfielders this week alone.

Appears that Sunderlsnd are interested

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