Prinny Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 Obviously talking about him not does not mean that you're writing him off or that he can't improve. How do you think he got on? To me, he kinda showed what he did when I watched him (couple of times) for Grimsby but against much better opposition, nothing came off however, and he wasn't fast enough to beat players for pace either! He flashed talent and is positive, but didn't look close to ready for me against a really good team. the good thing about him playing is that he gets to see what the standard is, and I hope he takes on board what works and what doesn't and uses it to get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted February 3, 2021 Admin Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 He needs to learn doing five stepovers without going anywhere needs working on. As debuts go he certainly held his own, worked hard with and without the ball and offered something different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 Looked ok, not ready for this level consistently yet. Needs a couple more loans. Good energy at times and when he’s ready looks like he’ll be an exciting player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prinny Posted February 3, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 Just now, phantom said: He needs to learn doing five stepovers without going anywhere needs working on. As debuts go he certainly held his own, worked hard with and without the ball and offered something different Yeah the standing still stepovers need to go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kibs Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 I wouldn’t agree he didn’t look close to ready. I thought it was nice to see someone actually face up the full backs and he definitely has pace for me. a couple of times they were having to double up. Really tough game to come into. Tried too hard to impress perhaps and decision making will obviously improve but plenty to like. Was also impressed by his defensive discipline. Done himself no harm at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, phantom said: He needs to learn doing five stepovers without going anywhere needs working on. As debuts go he certainly held his own, worked hard with and without the ball and offered something different Agree with that - was pleased he was looking to receive the ball and try and make something happen 1 minute ago, Prinny said: Yeah the standing still stepovers need to go! He has found that what works at U23 level doesn’t necessarily work with Championship,defenders As all young players , it’s all about how he learns and adapts But some positives to work on and I’ve seen far worse debuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman_Stand Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 Tough game for him tonight, thought he looked a bit lost at times to be honest. Probably staying on loan would have been the best option for him and us but we needed the bodies back in at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prinny Posted February 3, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, Kibs said: I wouldn’t agree he didn’t look close to ready. I thought it was nice to see someone actually face up the full backs and he definitely has pace for me. a couple of times they were having to double up. Really tough game to come into. Tried too hard to impress perhaps and decision making will obviously improve but plenty to like. Was also impressed by his defensive discipline. Done himself no harm at all. I would liked to have seen him win a few times when he tried to face the full backs up. That's really where the not close to ready comment comes from. Maybe he learns fast, here's hoping! Definitely plenty to like though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Swan and Cemetery Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Kibs said: I wouldn’t agree he didn’t look close to ready. I thought it was nice to see someone actually face up the full backs and he definitely has pace for me. a couple of times they were having to double up. Really tough game to come into. Tried too hard to impress perhaps and decision making will obviously improve but plenty to like. Done himself no harm at all. Agree with this. Loads to work on, including looking up/playing earlier balls, rather than having a Mexican step over stand off, but showed glimpses and plenty of worse teams to play against in future games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevedon Red Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 At times it was like Rabbit and headlights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveybadger Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 Energetic, fearless but very raw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meh Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 Not a starter yet but want him in the squad. Be good to see a few 20 minute appearances against tiring defenders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 He’s not good enough yet - would benefit from a league 1 loan I think. Think he thought he could just directly run through people and ended up looking a bit of a headless chicken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeez Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 Promising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chivs Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 Not seen him before. After tonight, I say if he is younger than 20 he has promise. If he's older than 20, get rid. How old is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grifty Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 Would prefer him to play left wing than Wells. Needs to put some studs in his boots though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Chivs said: Not seen him before. After tonight, I say if he is younger than 20 he has promise. If he's older than 20, get rid. How old is he? 21 tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Chivs said: Not seen him before. After tonight, I say if he is younger than 20 he has promise. If he's older than 20, get rid. How old is he? 20 today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcofisher Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, Chivs said: Not seen him before. After tonight, I say if he is younger than 20 he has promise. If he's older than 20, get rid. How old is he? 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman_Stand Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, Chivs said: Not seen him before. After tonight, I say if he is younger than 20 he has promise. If he's older than 20, get rid. How old is he? 20 tomorrow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chivs Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said: 21 tomorrow Get rid 2 minutes ago, Alex_BCFC said: 20 today. Get rid 2 minutes ago, marcofisher said: 19 Hang on, maybe keep. 2 minutes ago, Dolman_Stand said: 20 tomorrow... Yep, definitely keep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, Chivs said: Not seen him before. After tonight, I say if he is younger than 20 he has promise. If he's older than 20, get rid. How old is he? Antoine 21 and Zak 23 have only just started showing they can cut it at this level and you reckon we should get rid of players if they don't look up to it at 20? For me he looked raw but promising, needs exposure at this level and don't think coming off the bench for up to 30 mins in games will do him harm plus perhaps the odd start here and there to give him a chance. Less space than league 2 games but games where we're looking to counter he could be good for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redcard Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 Better debut than the Southampton lad last night!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beezey Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 I liked what I saw from him, he took players on. Looked for the ball and tried to be adventurous. Not a lot came off because he was facing better players than he’s ever faced before. I remember a young Ronaldo at United stepping over the ball time and time again and looking ridiculous. He didn’t end up doing to badly! Whilst I’m not suggestion he is on that level I’m happy to see a young player come in and try and take his game to the opposition. We all moan about sideways and backwards passing but I saw none of that with him tonight. There’s a player in there lads, can’t wait to watch us coach it out of him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 8 minutes ago, Lrrr said: Antoine 21 and Zak 23 have only just started showing they can cut it at this level and you reckon we should get rid of players if they don't look up to it at 20? For me he looked raw but promising, needs exposure at this level and don't think coming off the bench for up to 30 mins in games will do him harm plus perhaps the odd start here and there to give him a chance. Less space than league 2 games but games where we're looking to counter he could be good for. agree We are going nowhere this season Use the opportunity, and the injury decimation , to give young players minutes and to assess their current level Then try and get Owura a L1 loan next season or even a good L2 loan Plenty of time on his side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 Lots of potential, raw, good energy and attitude, but struggled tonight. The real question is how and why he is starting for us away at Brentford having begun the season on loan at Grimsby Town. We are meant to be striving for a Top 6 place and this kid has been thrown in ahead of a couple of £4-5m players. Last 5 games of a season in dead rubbers maybe but is it only me who finds this chain of events almost unbelievable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 27 minutes ago, Dolman_Stand said: Tough game for him tonight, thought he looked a bit lost at times to be honest. Probably staying on loan would have been the best option for him and us but we needed the bodies back in at the time. I agree with that. He’s only back because City is desperately short of players. Based on tonight’s performance, which may not be fair, he’s not really ready to start a match in the Championship. One for the future (Sorry about that as that phrase is usually the kiss of death). If we had a full squad, Semenyo, Pring and Adelakun would be better playing in League 1 to gain experience. At least, if they were, the last two might be fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSSEL85 Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 Energetic, positive but raw. An exciting prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 58 minutes ago, TomThumb84 said: Lots of potential, raw, good energy and attitude, but struggled tonight. The real question is how and why he is starting for us away at Brentford having begun the season on loan at Grimsby Town. We are meant to be striving for a Top 6 place and this kid has been thrown in ahead of a couple of £4-5m players. Last 5 games of a season in dead rubbers maybe but is it only me who finds this chain of events almost unbelievable? Can offer us better tactical balance though. Wells is wasted on the left, who else are you referring to? Palmer is not great in wider areas let's say (Palmer as '1' behind say Semenyo and Wells as a partnership might be one route), Paterson is just coming back after a long layoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Can offer us better tactical balance though. Wells is wasted on the left, who else are you referring to? Palmer is not great in wider areas let's say (Palmer as '1' behind say Semenyo and Wells as a partnership might be one route), Paterson is just coming back after a long layoff. My point is we put all our eggs into a 5-3-2 with no wingers formation, and let Elliasson go, had no other natural width in the squad, got hit by injuries that set us off desired course and here we are. Our wide left occupants in the last 2 months are.... Wells, Adelukan, Massengo, Palmer, Edwards, with none of them naturally shining there. We had no plan B from day one of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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