REDOXO Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 There seem to be two main threads Dean Holden isn’t up to it AND Mark Ashton is the root of The Problem. Personally I have been behind Holden, but after the last few games I’;m not sure the ‘no excuses we were awful’ sound bite carries much weight anymore. Ashton, I just don’t know. The trite sound bites and the tone that implies supporters are idiots gets on my wick, but I’m sure someone thinks he’s doing something right. I am interested In how people would reorganize the club at any level and who would you realistically bring in (at what cost?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 I don’t think we have ever discussed this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmac Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 You can get rid of Mark Ashton as much as you like, Dean will still not be up to the task I’m afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sludge Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Gmac said: You can get rid of Mark Ashton as much as you like, Dean will still not be up to the task I’m afraid. Yeh but you can get rid of Holden and our recruitment will still be turd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted February 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 minute ago, TonyTonyTony said: I don’t think we have ever discussed this. I don’t think we have. We have an academy that churns out players who cant get in the team except the occasional five minutes, Brentford for example got rid of theirs. I have lost count of the amount of Pro’s on the books. We have not one but two England International coach’s A hierarchy that bleeds across multiple organizations etc etc etc Thats before you even talk about how we play So how would you reorganize? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 Get rid of Ashton, the recruiters and the medics. Appoint Paul Cook as manager, statisticians in recruitment, and build an extensive scouting network that will remain in place after Cook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted February 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 Just now, tin said: Get rid of Ashton, the recruiters and the medics. Appoint Paul Cook as manager, statisticians in recruitment, and build an extensive scouting network that will remain in place after Cook. Thats a start! Nice!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 Not a very inspiring list... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlastonburyRed Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said: Not a very inspiring list... Sarri-ball here we come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 I’m not sure, all I know is the search will a thorough process and draws in applicants from all over the globe. The right person will certainly be a good human being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadrunner Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 With SL, MA, JA and DH leading us to where i don't know. I have said it before and i guess i will get told about the new stadium and training grounds etc. But our only hope of reaching the Premiership is for a new owner to buy the club. Yes i know their have been disasters but also some brilliant take overs. But if you want to get out of this terrible circle we need to break the circle. If we get the right owners that would rid us of SL, MA, JL and DH in one fell swoop. If we don't do that then we have many years of what we have seen since LJ left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 5 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said: Not a very inspiring list... Rafa a fire fighter manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiltshire robin Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 Arne slot plays amazing attacking football and did it on a budget with az alkmaar finishing 2nd last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Henry said: Rafa a fire fighter manager? I apologise on behalf of google Henry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 11 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said: Not a very inspiring list... Pearson, Cook or Van Bommel would be a big improvement on Holden, IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted February 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Roadrunner said: With SL, MA, JA and DH leading us to where i don't know. I have said it before and i guess i will get told about the new stadium and training grounds etc. But our only hope of reaching the Premiership is for a new owner to buy the club. Yes i know their have been disasters but also some brilliant take overs. But if you want to get out of this terrible circle we need to break the circle. If we get the right owners that would rid us of SL, MA, JL and DH in one fell swoop. If we don't do that then we have many years of what we have seen since LJ left. Since LJ Left!? He was very much part of the same cycle. I did post something (started a thread) a little while ago which got merged into another thread about how recent events felt like the quiet period before a take over. But I certainly agree with the thrust. It seems that we are going down a road that has created a HUGE squad many of whom have no chance of playing and a structure that is bloating it further. The whole thing needs to be critically judged and probably altered, starting at the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 11 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said: Not a very inspiring list... That’s because we missed out on Warnock, Hughton, McCarthy, Neil ... but let’s give it to the guy with zero experience or achievements ... AGAIN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 7 minutes ago, Wiltshire robin said: Arne slot plays amazing attacking football and did it on a budget with az alkmaar finishing 2nd last season Already sorted! https://www.feyenoord.com/news/overview/arne-slot-new-head-coach-from-next-season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 16 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said: Not a very inspiring list... Do we have a list of their required salaries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeRed Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 So far Mark Ashton has - for all his talk of '20 years in this industry' and his contacts in football and 'planning ahead' and 'consulting throughout the football Industry' has .... after twice undergoing 6 week periods of extensive interviews.... appointed:. Steve Lansdown's mate, and Steve Lansdown's mate's mate. He's a fraud . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted February 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 Just now, CodeRed said: So far Mark Ashton has - for all his talk of '20 years in this industry' and his contacts in football and 'planning ahead' and 'consulting throughout the football Industry' has .... after twice undergoing 6 week periods of extensive interviews.... appointed:. Steve Lansdown's mate, and Steve Lansdown's mate's mate. He's a fraud . Quote of the week! Well done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, Midred said: Do we have a list of their required salaries? Eddie Howe from 2018... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 Just now, CodeRed said: So far Mark Ashton has - for all his talk of '20 years in this industry' and his contacts in football and 'planning ahead' and 'consulting throughout the football Industry' has .... after twice undergoing 6 week periods of extensive interviews.... appointed:. Steve Lansdown's mate, and Steve Lansdown's mate's mate. He's a fraud . You seem to have forgotten that many other Clubs come to us , in awe , and asked how we operate Personally I think it’s actually a few thinking ‘Better find out what they are doing so we can make sure we don’t do it their way’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Shadow Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 minute ago, BS4 on Tour... said: That’s because we missed out on Warnock, Hughton, McCarthy, Neil ... but let’s give it to the guy with zero experience or achievements ... AGAIN This. Wouldn't it be simpler to have an owner who knows how to run a business but knows sod all about football (we already have one). That owner then employs a manager that does know about football who has on his cv promotion to the top flight and gives him sole control of everything to do with the football team. No middle men. Just a manager who can manage without any interference and choose his assistant and players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiltshire robin Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 8 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said: Already sorted! https://www.feyenoord.com/news/overview/arne-slot-new-head-coach-from-next-season Damn , should of went for him in the summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 21 minutes ago, 054123 said: I’m not sure, all I know is the search will a thorough process and draws in applicants from all over the globe. The right person will certainly be a good human being. Absolute priority this ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedo Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 7 minutes ago, CodeRed said: So far Mark Ashton has - for all his talk of '20 years in this industry' and his contacts in football and 'planning ahead' and 'consulting throughout the football Industry' has .... after twice undergoing 6 week periods of extensive interviews.... appointed:. Steve Lansdown's mate, and Steve Lansdown's mate's mate. He's a fraud . Ran out of likes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dREDful Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 9 minutes ago, CodeRed said: So far Mark Ashton has - for all his talk of '20 years in this industry' and his contacts in football and 'planning ahead' and 'consulting throughout the football Industry' has .... after twice undergoing 6 week periods of extensive interviews.... appointed:. Steve Lansdown's mate, and Steve Lansdown's mate's mate. He's a fraud . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Wood Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 Rene Gilmartin next he's a wonderful person let's here mark DNA Ashtons next call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 21 minutes ago, Midred said: Do we have a list of their required salaries? Whatever they are, pay it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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