Fordy62 Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 There. I said it. I know it’ll never happen owing to the stubbornness of Lansdown (and probably Cotts too), but my word, we could do a lot, lot worse. Shrewsbury aren’t in promotion form, they’re in the form that wins you the league by a canter. It’s alright though... we go again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finley_Smith10 Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 I wish Lansdown backed him right off the back of our promotion season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IdliketoRogerMoore Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Fordy62 said: There. I said it. I know it’ll never happen owing to the stubbornness of Lansdown (and probably Cotts too), but my word, we could do a lot, lot worse. Shrewsbury aren’t in promotion form, they’re in the forum that wins you the league. It’s alright though... we go again... Get us relegated probably like he was going to last time before he got sacked and Pemberton then Johnson saved us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted February 9, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 Just now, hail gus cesaer said: Get us relegated probably like he was going to last time before he got sacked and Pemberton then Johnson saved us! Ahh yes, the old trebling of the wage bill. Thanks Lee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 1 minute ago, hail gus cesaer said: Get us relegated probably like he was going to last time before he got sacked and Pemberton then Johnson saved us! You , and others still can’t see through him after 4 1/2 years The Sunderland fans meanwhile have him sussed in 2 months and many did within 2 or 3 weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 16 minutes ago, Finley_Smith10 said: I wish Lansdown backed him right off the back of our promotion season Within budget vs what he would have wanted. One year loss of £13m or more would have still yielded a Transfer Embargo in Jan 2017 if exceeded- which signings would have come within, and which would have fallen without, the budget? Would it have been worth a Jan 2017 Embargo to get a bit ahead with signings? You can't wish that final one year Assessment away. Again- which are compliant, which are not. Gayle e.g. I don't think would have been feasible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 I miss the football we played under him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said: I miss the football we played under him. 2017 2018 probably best ive seen.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 Just now, archie andrews said: 2017 2018 probably best ive seen.... Until December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted February 9, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 8 minutes ago, hail gus cesaer said: Get us relegated probably like he was going to last time before he got sacked and Pemberton then Johnson saved us! Do you genuinely believe he’d do worse than Holden is currently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 10 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: There. I said it. I know it’ll never happen owing to the stubbornness of Lansdown (and probably Cotts too), but my word, we could do a lot, lot worse. Shrewsbury aren’t in promotion form, they’re in the form that wins you the league by a canter. It’s alright though... we go again... Imagine what any experienced manager could do with our squad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted February 9, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 1 minute ago, archie andrews said: 2017 2018 probably best ive seen.... I think you mean 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, archie andrews said: 2017 2018 probably best ive seen.... Think he was referring to Cotts not the bluffer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finley_Smith10 Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 Just now, cidered abroad said: Imagine what any experienced manager could do with our squad! This! Literally is the missing piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 .....I’ve imagined what a lot of guys could have achieved with our squad, and squads of the past - gazing wistfully out of my window whilst clutching a very agreeable Malbec ... we have wasted too much time giving nice blokes their first real shot at management at this level ... and we’ve wasted too much time watching the experienced, successful, proven blokes at this level go elsewhere - we just can’t seem to attract a guy who knows what he’s doing in the championship, even though we apparently interview them - so we revert to the nice, genuine geezers, who haven’t really got a clue ... oh well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Street red Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 18 minutes ago, Finley_Smith10 said: I wish Lansdown backed him right off the back of our promotion season Look where Maguire is now .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 21 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: I think you mean 2017 There were some games in 2018 which nonetheless fitted the characteristics- or some games and some halves. 12 minutes ago, Street red said: Look where Maguire is now .. I'll ask you as well, to what extent could we have backed Cotts in summer 2015 and stayed within the one season assessment- Finley must be consulting his spreadsheets? Is there not a case to be made that Cotts should have been more patient, accepted 2015/16 as a bit of a pragmatic/consolidation and then gone and reaped the benefits of Revenue Growth from 2016/17 onwards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 Probably still wouldn’t name a full bench...although I’ve often wondered how he would’ve done with the money that LJ was given Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2015 Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 The switch to three at the back was a mess and an example of Johnson being too clever clever. But the formation could work - IF the right personnel are used That's a quote from Sunderland forum. Sounds all too familiar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Chappers Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 With this squad? It’s not a great one, and right now, down to the bare bones. Not quite sure how this magical experienced manager is going to plug the left back hole, cover the lack of width and make much of this midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, 2015 said: The switch to three at the back was a mess and an example of Johnson being too clever clever. But the formation could work - IF the right personnel are used That's a quote from Sunderland forum. Sounds all too familiar. Johnson went all RB Leipzig tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 28 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: There. I said it. I know it’ll never happen owing to the stubbornness of Lansdown (and probably Cotts too), but my word, we could do a lot, lot worse. Shrewsbury aren’t in promotion form, they’re in the form that wins you the league by a canter. It’s alright though... we go again... I'm starting to imagine what Lee Johnson could do with this squad!!!! Mental but I'm starting to. (Cotts would do just fine) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 Imagine what Danny Wilson could do with this squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2015 Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Davefevs said: Johnson went all RB Leipzig tonight. It wasn't his tactics though, it was the fact they didn't bring their USP out in tonight's match or enough POMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 Just now, Merrick's Marvels said: I'm starting to imagine what Lee Johnson could do with this squad!!!! Mental but I'm starting to. Well he wouldn’t play 4-2-2-2............more likely a 4-4-2 or even a 3-5-2............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 Imagine what Benny Lennartsson could do with this squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 13 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: There. I said it. I know it’ll never happen owing to the stubbornness of Lansdown (and probably Cotts too), but my word, we could do a lot, lot worse. Shrewsbury aren’t in promotion form, they’re in the form that wins you the league by a canter. It’s alright though... we go again... Shrewsbury are currently fifth in the league one form table, based on six games. It is impressive from where they were but I am not sure if it is form that wins you the league by a canter. Our promotion season under Cotts was the best football I can remember seeing us play but, once we were up, he lobbed his toys out the pram over the budget and let his sense of grievance over the transfer dealing dominate everything from press conferences to team selection. He was a very very good manager and he was hard done by that summer But, whilst I could have forgiven him for walking away or I could have respected him struggling to do his best in tough circumstances, I struggle to respect or forgive the fact he risked getting the team relegated because his ego was out of joint. I’ll always love him for the football we played that promotion season. But he left at least three months after it was clearly time for him to move on and I don’t want him back after how toxic it all became. Of course I would like a manager who can get more out of the team than we are at the moment but I would rather we moved on to someone new entirely rather than continually resurrecting ghosts of previous managerial regimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 13 minutes ago, Superjack said: Until December. It was from the Derby game, 16 September (4:1) to about the, well, let's say Man City at home, 23 January. No, let's be fair: QPR at home (2:0), 27 January. About 16 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 At least if DW was in charge we’d see some thrilling football.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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