BrizzleRed Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 24 minutes ago, Red Exile said: It's what - 6 years since LJ joined? Of the squad he inherited you could make a case, 6 years later, for all of the following to start in a City side next week: Ayling, Flint, Korey, Luke Freeman, Marlon, Bobby Reid, Joe Bryan That's not a bad inheritance is it?! As supporters we have been far too tolerant of mediocrity. Cotts approach wasn't and it worked in League One. If he needed to be replaced - and perhaps he did - it needed to be by someone with experience and the same ruthless approach. Not a friend of the family learning on the job. Interesting to read the Sunderland forums in the context of tolerance of mediocrity. Some might call their attitude 'entitlement' but I'd say that most of the more vitriolic posters are calling out the mediocre and expecting something better - because they know what that looks like. Would be better if there was more of that at Ashton Gate. ….. oh and yes, I agree we are way too tolerent of mediocrity at the Gate, which is most likely why we settle for it far too easily and regularly The mindset of being satisfied to finish ubove the Sags really isn’t going to see us kick on and definitely won’t encourage a genuine push for the Prem. Hopefully under NP, we’ll be aiming higher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 2 hours ago, B1ackbird said: People could argue we gave him more than enough time, and where did it get us??? I'm not interested in the "Lets all bad mouth LJ bandwagon" it's so easy? I thought he did an ok job, including a Cup semi final and some great games.........he also brought in some brilliant players in like Webster, Brownhill etc, and also established us as a Chanpionship side? The financial mess was mostly Ashton IMHO. PS. And thanks LJ for having the foresight for recruiting one of the best young players in the Championship in HNM, before you left.....the massive fee we eventually get for him will be a great help? . 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 At least I don’t feel City are the biggest joke in The EFL anymore. Top six touching distance of top two. And he’s fired! Nuts! Thats messed up my Saturday evening checking to see if Sunderland had lost. I’ll just have to go back to not giving a toss about the third division rubbish! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 He doesn't appear to be much of a "January, February, March" sort of manager. I can see him working next in the southern hemisphere, Boca Juniors perhaps. Or Santos. Mind, he still won't get them promoted. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 48 minutes ago, REDOXO said: At least I don’t feel City are the biggest joke in The EFL anymore. Top six touching distance of top two. And he’s fired! Nuts! Thats messed up my Saturday evening checking to see if Sunderland had lost. I’ll just have to go back to not giving a toss about the third division rubbish! Yeah I was beginning to hope they’d go up. Be funny if they slid down the table now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 4 hours ago, Selred said: I thought actually that was one of Gary's strong points! Let's be honest we weren't tactically Brazil, we had a lot of grifters fighting for the shirt under GJ. So that explains why GJ was sacked after senior players went to SL refusing to play for him any longer after the shocking brawl at Argyle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 1 minute ago, Robbored said: So that explains why GJ was sacked after senior players went to SL refusing to play for him any longer after the shocking brawl at Argyle? Did you read that on the official site? Couldn't miss an open goal like that!!! 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 1 minute ago, Numero Uno said: Couldn't miss an open goal like that!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 15 hours ago, Bouncearoundtheground said: If cotts is going to be lauded as a ‘double winner’, then Johnson deserves credit for an EFL trophy. Some of the replies on this thread are oddly personal. The Lee Johnson years didn’t come close to other, genuine horrors of the past. Yes, he was given time and money, and at our worst we were drab, but at our best we could be scintillating. His era had excitement and some of the loftiest heights we experienced in the previous decade. Compare this to other managers of the last 10-20 years who barely even left with a memorable win on their city CV. The truth is, there is, was, and always will be, some kind of strange personal vendetta against Lee Johnson from sections of our fan base. I don’t understand it, you don’t know the man. He was the manager of your football team, but some of you have such deeply personal character assessments that you can’t possibly be basing solely on that? It became personal to me when he destroyed my love of watching us play, when he claimed his love for my club, after saying the same about Oldham and Barnsley, when he thought he was the high and mighty, and none of us watching were worthy of understanding the game. The strange thing is that I quite liked him as a player, always playing it simple, keeping the ball, giving it to players who were far more talented than him. But as a coach/manager he thinks he is some kind of inimitable expert, that must be looked up too. His after match interviews are farcical and pathetic, talking down to people who just watched 90 minutes of sheer shite, by trying to tell them they didn’t understand what they were watching. No other Championship club would have gone anywhere near him ( someone give me one reason why they would of? ) when SL hired him. He had done nothing to warrant coming here, except being a mate of the owners son. Yes, it’s personal, i and many others have been involved with football for 50 years plus, one thing I don’t need is someone who isn’t very good at his job, trying to tell me what I’m watching. 14 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 7 hours ago, maxjak said: Their Chairman is an entitled impulsive 24 year old........probably threw a hissy fit, after his dad told him off? He may well be entitled and impulsive, but his father, the late Robert Louis-Dreyfus, died in 2009. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCulturalBomb Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 I mentioned before he was sacked here that Lee Johnson hadn't established himself yet as a Championship level manager. This definitely won't help his cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 5 hours ago, Super said: What does Hampshire Red think of this? 5 hours ago, Tin Soldier said: He has been very quiet lately for some reason. 5 hours ago, Super said: I think he is no longer on here. Like many on here, I found his posting quite abrasive, almost as if he was looking for an argument. I do recall him posting on more than one occasion, however, that his partner was seriously ill in hospital, which may (or may not) account for his absence. Probably best not to involve him if he is not in the right state of mind to contribute. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 3 hours ago, PHILINFRANCE said: He may well be entitled and impulsive, but his father, the late Robert Louis-Dreyfus, died in 2009. These things take time… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 11 hours ago, Davefevs said: He isn’t gonna take a low paid job like that, nor would he get day to day involvement. Its a bonkers sacking don’t get me wrong, but I’m not sure where LJ goes from here. Was thinking the same earlier actually. Any potential jobs in this league, will probably be put off with a sacking here, and a sacking in league 1 (albeit harsh tbf). I think his best bet will be a mid table/playoff chasing league 1 team at best, as many will probably look at the situation and think "crazy Sunderland at it again". An England squad below the u21 could be a good shout though, a bit like O'Dismal. Mind you if he gets one of those jobs, he'll be betting on himself to get the big one when Southgate moves on..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FNQ Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 5 minutes ago, Taz said: Was thinking the same earlier actually. Any potential jobs in this league, will probably be put off with a sacking here, and a sacking in league 1 (albeit harsh tbf). I think his best bet will be a mid table/playoff chasing league 1 team at best, as many will probably look at the situation and think "crazy Sunderland at it again". An England squad below the u21 could be a good shout though, a bit like O'Dismal. Mind you if he gets one of those jobs, he'll be betting on himself to get the big one when Southgate moves on..... MA to make a few adjustments, then he’ll be off to Ipswich.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 1 minute ago, FNQ said: MA to make a few adjustments, then he’ll be off to Ipswich.. I'm not too sure he would again tbh. I know we've all bemoaned his "clubs in the bag" approach like his dad, however look at Ipswich now and the number of players they've got in since Ashton went there. Now look at the players we signed and didn't really get a look in. I'm not entirely convinced that Johnson was as much to blame as we all thought originally. He's far from innocent don't get me wrong, but I think he's realised how bad Ashton was for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 4 hours ago, PHILINFRANCE said: He may well be entitled and impulsive, but his father, the late Robert Louis-Dreyfus, died in 2009. That'll teach me, thanks...........still the 4 billion will be some comfort Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 18 hours ago, Gert Mare said: People harp on about beating Man United but we were fortunate to have some decent players at the time and it doesn’t take a lot for a team to get fired up to play Man United! In fairness Man Utd put out a reserve side that our ‘ decent players ‘ matched up to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The dastardly red Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 (edited) Poor Lee, waking up on this February morning with nothing but some jargon and a couple of buzz phrases to keep him warm. Edited February 1 by The dastardly red Forgot it's Feb now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearsonistheman Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: In fairness Man Utd put out a reserve side that our ‘ decent players ‘ matched up to. Above is one of the most stupid posts I’ve read on here! Lets take a look - Romero - Argentinian International Darmian - Italian International Shaw - England International Rojo - Argentinian International Lindelof - Swedish International Blind - Dutch international McTominay - Scottish International Pogba - French World Cup Winner Rashford - English International Martial - French World Cup winner Ibrahimovic - Swedish International and record breaker Edited February 1 by ziderheadarmy 5 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 1 minute ago, ziderheadarmy said: Above is one of the most stupid posts I’ve read on here! Lets take a look - Romero - Argentinian International Darmian - Italian International Shaw - England regular Rojo - Argentinian International Lindelof - Swedish International Blind - Dutch international McTominay - Scottish International Pogba - French World Cup Winner Rashford - English International Martial - French World Cup winner Ibrahimovic - Swedish International and record breaker I think that the sarcasm in the previous post just flew over your head.... 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 I think signing Defoe is a master stroke for them, even at his age he will be devastating at league one level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 58 minutes ago, One Team said: I think signing Defoe is a master stroke for them, even at his age he will be devastating at league one level. He’s really well thought of from his time there too. Will be interesting to see where Johnson goes next. Perhaps a little unfair to be sacked given Sunderland’s position, but supporters of a club that size would never accept such an awful defeat like the weekend. His form their appeared fairly similar to here - good runs of form then inexplicable big losses and poor runs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 3 hours ago, Major Isewater said: In fairness Man Utd put out a reserve side that our ‘ decent players ‘ matched up to. Thanks.....I didn't realise that Pogba,(Most expensive midfield player in the WORLD), Shaw, Mctominay, Ibrahomovic, Rashford, Martial, Lindelof and Lukaku are Reserves? Do u think anyone has told them? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobintheRed Red Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 21 hours ago, Portland Bill said: It became personal to me when he destroyed my love of watching us play, when he claimed his love for my club, after saying the same about Oldham and Barnsley, when he thought he was the high and mighty, and none of us watching were worthy of understanding the game. The strange thing is that I quite liked him as a player, always playing it simple, keeping the ball, giving it to players who were far more talented than him. But as a coach/manager he thinks he is some kind of inimitable expert, that must be looked up too. His after match interviews are farcical and pathetic, talking down to people who just watched 90 minutes of sheer shite, by trying to tell them they didn’t understand what they were watching. No other Championship club would have gone anywhere near him ( someone give me one reason why they would of? ) when SL hired him. He had done nothing to warrant coming here, except being a mate of the owners son. Yes, it’s personal, i and many others have been involved with football for 50 years plus, one thing I don’t need is someone who isn’t very good at his job, trying to tell me what I’m watching. Spot on you could see through him .he 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian M Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 7 hours ago, One Team said: I think signing Defoe is a master stroke for them, even at his age he will be devastating at league one level. SSN were suggesting when I was watching that LJ wasn't keen on the signing and that contributed to his departure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 Just now, Ian M said: SSN were suggesting when I was watching that LJ wasn't keen on the signing and that contributed to his departure. I hope that’s true and he’s learned from his time here then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 6 hours ago, maxjak said: Thanks.....I didn't realise that Pogba,(Most expensive midfield player in the WORLD), Shaw, Mctominay, Ibrahomovic, Rashford, Martial, Lindelof and Lukaku are Reserves? Do u think anyone has told them? Some of you just don’t get irony now do you ? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prankerd Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 10 hours ago, Major Isewater said: In fairness Man Utd put out a reserve side that our ‘ decent players ‘ matched up to. They had most of their first team out :laugh: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevedon Red Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 5 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: Some of you just don’t get irony now do you ? Something you do your shirts with isn’t it Major? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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