Hampshire Red Posted February 10, 2021 Report Share Posted February 10, 2021 Has he gone off injured? How many now? Disnt realise we had 4 debutants in 4 games, one more great strength of SLs strategy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted February 10, 2021 Report Share Posted February 10, 2021 I ******* hate this club sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrob Posted February 10, 2021 Report Share Posted February 10, 2021 Held his hamstring on the way off too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampshire Red Posted February 10, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2021 It's the hope that hurts and we ha e so, so much to hope for, with reason, which is only dampened by average results and really negative comments on here.... and VAR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted February 10, 2021 Report Share Posted February 10, 2021 That’s what you get for rushing him back from a long-term injury with only one U23 game under his belt, unfortunately. Hopefully he only went off as a precaution and it’s not too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthStand Sandwich Posted February 10, 2021 Report Share Posted February 10, 2021 You couldn't make it up could you?.... Brainiac coaching team... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hampshire Red Posted February 10, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2021 I could be hard on Wells by saying extra pressure has been put on every player has been overstretched playing with 10men every time NW plays. Not sure we'll ever know the real reasons for all these injuries that ha e transformed a top 2squad into half a senior squad still needing 4 wins to stay up. Sad and unfortunate but do t you just wish posters on here would realise it's injuries not DH that have caused our losses. Ask Clip Klopp to do well with 10 top players out! He makes enough excuses with one CB out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveInSA Posted February 10, 2021 Report Share Posted February 10, 2021 It’s a joke. Or it would be. It’s total incompetence. at every level. Medical. Coaching. Players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted February 10, 2021 Report Share Posted February 10, 2021 He doesn’t want to play for Steve’s puppet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted February 10, 2021 Report Share Posted February 10, 2021 33 minutes ago, petehinton said: MA on MN on RB with GT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted February 10, 2021 Report Share Posted February 10, 2021 35 minutes ago, tin said: That’s what you get for rushing him back from a long-term injury with only one U23 game under his belt, unfortunately. Hopefully he only went off as a precaution and it’s not too bad. Yep and I think some could misunderstand the term rushing him back. I have no doubts he was fit to come back into the first team but two starts in a row 4 days apart after not playing for 6-7 months is mad. Especially as this was a cup game. Also have to factor in 70 minutes in a u23 match a week ago. We have enough midfielders that he didn’t have to start tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted February 10, 2021 Admin Report Share Posted February 10, 2021 41 minutes ago, tin said: That’s what you get for rushing him back from a long-term injury with only one U23 game under his belt, unfortunately. Hopefully he only went off as a precaution and it’s not too bad. 1 minute ago, JoeAman08 said: Yep and I think some could misunderstand the term rushing him back. I have no doubts he was fit to come back into the first team but two starts in a row 4 days apart after not playing for 6-7 months is mad. Especially as this was a cup game. Also have to factor in 70 minutes in a u23 match a week ago. We have enough midfielders that he didn’t have to start tonight. Sorry to be pedantic he played twice for U23s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted February 10, 2021 Report Share Posted February 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said: Yep and I think some could misunderstand the term rushing him back. I have no doubts he was fit to come back into the first team but two starts in a row 4 days apart after not playing for 6-7 months is mad. Especially as this was a cup game. Also have to factor in 70 minutes in a u23 match a week ago. We have enough midfielders that he didn’t have to start tonight. Totally mad. It’s not like Holden was short of options in central midfield tonight. Any one of Nagy, Massengo, Bakinson or Palmer could’ve been used instead. Holden’s to blame if Williams is out for another long spell, IMO. Let’s hope he’s not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted February 10, 2021 Report Share Posted February 10, 2021 Oh Jesus. I missed the game... is Williams injured again?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted February 10, 2021 Report Share Posted February 10, 2021 Bottom line is this. You can bemoan luck over injuries all you like. You can blame a gypsy curse, game frequency, need to play certain players. But if you play someone just off six months out with a hamstring injury twice in five days after they’ve only played 100 minutes in the U23 that’s not bad luck. That’s moronic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodiesaffer Posted February 10, 2021 Report Share Posted February 10, 2021 28 minutes ago, Hampshire Red said: I could be hard on Wells by saying extra pressure has been put on every player has been overstretched playing with 10men every time NW plays. Not sure we'll ever know the real reasons for all these injuries that ha e transformed a top 2squad into half a senior squad still needing 4 wins to stay up. Sad and unfortunate but do t you just wish posters on here would realise it's injuries not DH that have caused our losses. Ask Clip Klopp to do well with 10 top players out! He makes enough excuses with one CB out. It’s not having the balls to play youth in there natural position over experience out of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted February 10, 2021 Report Share Posted February 10, 2021 Just now, Fordy62 said: Oh Jesus. I missed the game... is Williams injured again?! Yes. I wasn’t paying a lot of attention to the game but think he was holding his calf and told the physio its gone. That is a lip reading though. Didn’t look horrible but even a slight strain or pull and could be a month. 3 minutes ago, tin said: Totally mad. It’s not like Holden was short of options in central midfield either. Any one of Nagy, Massengo, Bakinson or Palmer could’ve been used instead. Holden’s to blame if Williams is out for another long spell, IMO. Let’s hope he’s not. Especially the 3 more traditional cm you mentioned have played well in spells over the course of this season. Also Paterson been given a lot of minutes since his return as well. I get they are important players but was this game important enough to risk them both from the start? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodjias Wrist Posted February 10, 2021 Report Share Posted February 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: Oh Jesus. I missed the game... is Williams injured again?! Not on the sunderland forum again mate ? haha its true and I'm so deflated and I dont know what to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted February 10, 2021 Report Share Posted February 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said: Especially the 3 more traditional cm you mentioned have played well in spells over the course of this season. Also Paterson been given a lot of minutes since his return as well. I get they are important players but was this game important enough to risk them both from the start? Holden’s got previous for this, mind. Earlier in the season I used the term “running them into the ground”, referring to his reluctance to rotate Weimann and Paterson. They soon looked tired and eventually got injured. He’s done the same with Williams and Pato since they’ve returned. Why bring Palmer back if Pato’s going to be an automatic pick? He should be phasing them back in slowly after injury IMO, especially when he has a plethora of options in those positions — and that’s not said in hindsight, it’s common sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_BCFC Posted February 10, 2021 Report Share Posted February 10, 2021 Not the best of starts to his City career, seems to be another sick note player to add the list unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted February 10, 2021 Report Share Posted February 10, 2021 Holden said in interview that he just felt it tighten up so was subbed as a precaution. Hopefully this means at worst he misses the weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted February 10, 2021 Report Share Posted February 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Lrrr said: Holden said in interview that he just felt it tighten up so was subbed as a precaution. Hopefully this means at worst he misses the weekend Based on that I look forward to seeing him play again in October Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted February 10, 2021 Report Share Posted February 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, Lrrr said: Holden said in interview that he just felt it tighten up so was subbed as a precaution. Hopefully this means at worst he misses the weekend I don’t know why but I’m reluctant to believe this. Hope it’s true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted February 10, 2021 Report Share Posted February 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, petehinton said: Based on that I look forward to seeing him play again in October next year!!! Corrected for you!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted February 10, 2021 Report Share Posted February 10, 2021 56 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: Bottom line is this. You can bemoan luck over injuries all you like. You can blame a gypsy curse, game frequency, need to play certain players. But if you play someone just off six months out with a hamstring injury twice in five days after they’ve only played 100 minutes in the U23 that’s not bad luck. That’s moronic. Deano: "We are following the science." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlyotib Posted February 10, 2021 Report Share Posted February 10, 2021 57 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: Oh Jesus. I missed the game... is Williams injured again?! Hav a guess with our current injury record Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted February 10, 2021 Report Share Posted February 10, 2021 43 minutes ago, JonDolman said: Could see today what he can bring. Very good all round player. Agreed. Grew into the game, understandably, but gave glimpses of being a cut above every other midfielder we have. Just after half time he bravely won a 50/50 challenge against 2 sheffield players, not long after nearly split the sheffield defence with a long threaded pass that was cut out at the last . Then went off injured! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted February 10, 2021 Report Share Posted February 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said: Agreed. Grew into the game, understandably, but gave glimpses of being a cut above every other midfielder we have. Just after half time he bravely won a 50/50 challenge against 2 sheffield players, not long after nearly split the sheffield defence with a long threaded pass that was cut out at the last . Then went off injured! Yeah. He looks proper. Clearly a leader too.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted February 10, 2021 Report Share Posted February 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Bard said: Yeah. He looks proper. Clearly a leader too.. Aye. Seems to have personality. You can imagine him imposing himself on a game. We have far too many players lacking this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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