Bris Red Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 11 minutes ago, WarksRobin said: Some of the cliches and phrases that come out of his mouth wouldn’t sound out of place in a changing room at Eastville park or on the Downs.. Hw seems like a nice enough honest bloke but he really is so out of his depth as the head coach of a championship club its embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banjo Red Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 18 minutes ago, LoyalRed said: My thoughts also, Ashton quiet as usual - scumbag he is He is a shithouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 22 minutes ago, WirralRobin said: Genuine question - can we expect the team to have any sort of cohesion when the coaching staff have had so little time on the training ground in between games to work with the squad, players returning from injury and of course the academy players integrating into the first team part way through a season? I just really feel for him. The ridiculous injury count plus the uniqueness of the season in terms of frequency of games has made his position next to impossible imo Genuine question - how do other teams have cohesion then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 18 minutes ago, glen humphries said: He could always jack it in Why the duck would he do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, Banjo Red said: He is a shithouse Always has been, always will be - he’s the BIG problem with our club.....get him out! Sadly, Holden needs to go now too! Reshuffle from top to bottom required.....just don’t see SL having the bottle to do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 There was one really touching bit where he says about how he has responded to challenges in his life. And we all know what he refers to. There are two ways you can go. You can go under or you can find a way. I really feel for the guy. Should never have been put in this position in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron W Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 30 minutes ago, daored said: We have injuries no doubting that , but we could have acted for LB or LWB cover, and defensively we’re short. However , we had Nagy , Palmer, Bakinson & Marippa on the bench today, we have options but seem unable to find a work around (I haven’t included Wells as clearly doesn’t want to be here) To be fair to Holden, for his faults it’s not him who brings in players. Yes he has a veto on players he doesn’t want, but does anyone really believe he didn’t want a left-back in the window? The people who were meant to get it for him are the ones who have ****** up the most on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 Holden’s post match interviews are like something straight out of the Russel Osman “we can win this lads” playbook. There doesn’t appear to be any idea of how to tactically correct and effect a change. He’s from the school which says “if I tell the players to look in the mirror and show more passion” that should fire them up. He gives no thought to how his actual tactical actions affect players. Poor old Massengo was used in 4 different midfield roles today. He played Lansbury at DM inspite of him saying he hates playing there. Even when he brought Nagy & Baks on (2 players more naturally aligned to the DM role) he still played Lansbury behind them. He played a rookie who was until recently a CM, now a CB, at left wing back and offered him zero support - playing a 19 year old infront for protection and a league 1 (at best) defender inside him. That was Towler completely hung out to dry on debut. He’s our 7th choice left back. You simply can’t expose him like that. Dean would be better focussing on how he should manage his players better rather than telling them to “look in the mirror”. He is showing is exactly who he is - someone who is completely out of his depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 21 minutes ago, WirralRobin said: Genuine question - can we expect the team to have any sort of cohesion when the coaching staff have had so little time on the training ground in between games to work with the squad, players returning from injury and of course the academy players integrating into the first team part way through a season? I just really feel for him. The ridiculous injury count plus the uniqueness of the season in terms of frequency of games has made his position next to impossible imo Sensible comment of course but the same applies to every other Championship club in terms of fixture pressure but what is very different is the injury curse that we’ve been hit by. Players returning are essentially like new signings and it takes time and games to get up to speed and familiarity with coaching and gave strategies. That said getting absolutely stuffed by 6 is unacceptable n anyone’s book regardless of the circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 On the "honest Dean" point, he claimed we would play aggressive, front foot football and get in the opposition's faces. That appears to have been, shall we say, a less than honest claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen humphries Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, Maltshoveller said: Why the duck would he do that? The general consensus is he’s a genuine top bloke, if he’s got any thing about him he’d walk, it was obvious today the players have downed tools ,he’d of seen this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Harry said: Holden’s post match interviews are like something straight out of the Russel Osman “we can win this lads” playbook. There doesn’t appear to be any idea of how to tactically correct and effect a change. He’s from the school which says “if I tell the players to look mirror and show more passion” that should fire them up. He gives no thought to how his actual tactical actions effect players. Poor old Massengo was used in 4 different midfield roles today. He played Lansbury at DM inspite of him saying he hates playing there. Even when he brought Nagy & Baks on (2 players more naturally aligned to the DM role) he still played Lansbury behind them. He played a rookie who was until recently a CM, now a CB, at left wing back and offered him zero support - playing a 19 year old infront for protection and a league 1 (at best) defender inside him. That was Towler completely hung out to dry on debut. He’s our 7th choice left back. You simply can’t expose him like that. Dean would be better focussing on how he should manage his players better rather than telling them to “look in the mirror”. He is showing is exactly who he is - someone who is completely out of his depth. Unfortunately I agree....been like this for 3 months. Gives me no pleasure in saying this. If Dean goes, I hope it creates a chain reaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 Just now, Davefevs said: Unfortunately I agree....been like this for 3 months. Gives me no pleasure in saying this. If Dean goes, I hope it creates a chain reaction. Agree @Davefevs- don’t see DH surviving after today. A decent bloke but not got what it takes at this level at this point in his managerial career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, chinapig said: On the "honest Dean" point, he claimed we would play aggressive, front football and get in the opposition's faces. That appears to have been, shall we say, a less than honest claim. He’s probably trying, but doesn’t know how. As Harry says above, he’s essentially me when I play 2020 football manager, I realise as soon as I turn it on that it’s changed a lot since 2000, so i just try to try to bluff my way through it. Sad thing is though, Deano can’t save after a win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 Thank **** for red wine at this point #pissedoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 Just now, glen humphries said: The general consensus is he’s a genuine top bloke, if he’s got any thing about him he’d walk, it was obvious today the players have downed tools ,he’d of seen this. Got himself a dream job Will be working his bollocks off to get it right and you think he should walk!!! Get in the real world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Davefevs said: Unfortunately I agree....been like this for 3 months. Gives me no pleasure in saying this. If Dean goes, I hope it creates a chain reaction. It had to create a chain reaction, otherwise we’ll continue to go round in circles. The problem isn’t dean taking the job, it’s dean being appointed in the first place after an ‘intensive recruitment process’ which took six weeks, and the reason Dean got the role he’s a good human. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 Why’s the press release topic been locked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Notgetinya Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 He might get the boot when the coach arrives back in Bristol? Guys? Anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Phileas Fogg said: Why’s the press release topic been locked? Probably cos it’s bollocks sadly. Wishful thinking, but bollocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen humphries Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, Maltshoveller said: Got himself a dream job Will be working his bollocks off to get it right and you think he should walk!!! Get in the real world You think he’s up to it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Notgetinya Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Phileas Fogg said: Why’s the press release topic been locked? Probably because it’s been posted with absolutely nothing to back it up in an attempt to get people excited. There’s always one who creates a clickbait topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keepers Ball Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 Seeing the latest post match interview its clear he doesn't know what to do next. He is saying what you expect him to say. "feeling hurt" etc etc but he just know how to turn this around. And its sad. Some people have their limitations. For his own piece of mind he has to go because this bad bad run will continue. No real fighters on the pitch to help him. the bloke is doomed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC RISK77 Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 17 minutes ago, Dingbat said: He may be a good man, but he’s not the right man, not by a long chalk! One thing I never get is how people always say things like he is a good man, do they know him? he might be a horrible man away from the public eye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Exile Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 7 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: He’s probably trying, but doesn’t know how. As Harry says above, he’s essentially me when I play 2020 football manager, I realise as soon as I turn it on that it’s changed a lot since 2000, so i just try to try to bluff my way through it. Sad thing is though, Deano can’t save after a win. Hang on though...Football Manager and I'm a genius...retired in FM2006 (or thereabouts) having won the World Club Championship and had a statue of me built outside the ground...signing young Zlatan Ibrahimovic helped mind... But even in FM2020 we don't have any difficulty getting promoted. I know it's a game...but City don't have a terrible squad. Always sack Holden though. Jamie Mac is a much better assistant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: Why’s the press release topic been locked? It appears to have originated via a kid on Twitter, quoting a radio station that doesn't exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 19 minutes ago, GILLI said: The fact he said he isn’t a quitter a few times, says he deffo isn’t gonna walk !! And as upset as he was with the performance I don’t think he acted like he was someone worried for his job either ... I'm not a quitter is football speak for I want my pay off. Can't say I blame him, not his fault Ashton appointed him over candidates who were actually qualified for the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engvall’s Splinter Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 The references to not being a quitter etc I believe are a message to Ashton. For Holden to go, he’ll not do it off his own accord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Exile Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 Just now, chinapig said: I'm not a quitter is football speak for I want my pay off. Can't say I blame him, not his fault Ashton appointed him over candidates who were actually qualified for the job. ...correction...'infinitely better qualified for the job' !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 13 minutes ago, Harry said: Holden’s post match interviews are like something straight out of the Russel Osman “we can win this lads” playbook. There doesn’t appear to be any idea of how to tactically correct and effect a change. He’s from the school which says “if I tell the players to look in the mirror and show more passion” that should fire them up. He gives no thought to how his actual tactical actions affect players. Poor old Massengo was used in 4 different midfield roles today. He played Lansbury at DM inspite of him saying he hates playing there. Even when he brought Nagy & Baks on (2 players more naturally aligned to the DM role) he still played Lansbury behind them. He played a rookie who was until recently a CM, now a CB, at left wing back and offered him zero support - playing a 19 year old infront for protection and a league 1 (at best) defender inside him. That was Towler completely hung out to dry on debut. He’s our 7th choice left back. You simply can’t expose him like that. Dean would be better focussing on how he should manage his players better rather than telling them to “look in the mirror”. He is showing is exactly who he is - someone who is completely out of his depth. Four rookies down the left hand side (Moore, Towler, Massengo, Semenyo) and two attacking midfielders in defensive midfield roles. Totally clueless and got the result the selection deserved....and I have haven't even mentioned Fam who is now on his 4th poor game on the spin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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