MarcusX Posted February 12, 2021 Report Share Posted February 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, CotswoldRed said: I stand by what I say. If you issue bans based on the outcome rather than the intent I think its wrong. The most honest and innocuous tackles can break legs. The most cynical and dangerous can result in no injury whatsoever. The intent is everything. So very few red cards should ever happen? If someone's been booked, if they commit 5 more fouls but they meant well and honestly went for the ball then they shouldn't get a red? Anyway the intent isn't everything, you can be dangerous without intending to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted February 12, 2021 Report Share Posted February 12, 2021 4 hours ago, cidered abroad said: I understand that all contact of hand/lower arm is now "handball" and a penalty. However it seems like a triple whammy for the great majority of cases which are totally accidental. Penalty, Sending off and One Natch Suspension. Over the top punishment isn't it? Indeed. Unfair and quite disproportionate . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 12, 2021 Report Share Posted February 12, 2021 2 hours ago, MarcusX said: So very few red cards should ever happen? If someone's been booked, if they commit 5 more fouls but they meant well and honestly went for the ball then they shouldn't get a red? Anyway the intent isn't everything, you can be dangerous without intending to be. Intent has its merits, whilst so does persistent misconduct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted February 12, 2021 Report Share Posted February 12, 2021 On 11/02/2021 at 12:32, The Horse With No Name said: Not really because if he hadn't handled it, accidentally or not, it was in the net. So if they had missed the penalty, wheres the advantage gone? Interesting potential stipulation, if they score the penalty its a yellow, if the penalty is saved its a red to ensure the advantage (play restarted with a drop ball after card) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted February 12, 2021 Report Share Posted February 12, 2021 2 hours ago, MarcusX said: So very few red cards should ever happen? If someone's been booked, if they commit 5 more fouls but they meant well and honestly went for the ball then they shouldn't get a red? Anyway the intent isn't everything, you can be dangerous without intending to be. I'd say 3 things should be taken into account to be fair if the law were to be re-examined Intent Potential harm to players Continued misconduct as fevs says --- On your example there continued misconduct would result in a red, the innocuous challenge argument, if a player has been seriously harmed even if there's no intent can be deemed reckless and dangerous etc and intent ie Suarez handball as an example. Mawson (seemingly) didn't have the intent of using his hand to block the ball, he isn't potentially causing harm to an opponent and it was his first offence of the game if I recall Obviously this is an issue with the law of the game rather than the decision but just seems a harsh punishment for something unintentional Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted February 12, 2021 Report Share Posted February 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, Lrrr said: Interesting potential stipulation, if they score the penalty its a yellow, if the penalty is saved its a red to ensure the advantage (play restarted with a drop ball after card) That actually has some logic oh, And if the penalty taker does a panenka and puts it over the bar , Send off the penalty taker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted February 12, 2021 Report Share Posted February 12, 2021 Just now, Sheltons Army said: That actually has some logic oh, And if the penalty taker does a panenka and puts it over the bar , Send off the penalty taker And say they're banned from taking them in future unless its a penalty shootout where they have to be 11th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYTRAM Posted February 12, 2021 Report Share Posted February 12, 2021 Now injured so no need to appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted February 12, 2021 Report Share Posted February 12, 2021 10 minutes ago, NYTRAM said: Now injured so no need to appeal. Just appeal for banter now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted February 12, 2021 Report Share Posted February 12, 2021 11 minutes ago, NYTRAM said: Now injured so no need to appeal. Jesus ***** wept Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted February 12, 2021 Report Share Posted February 12, 2021 All a bit irrelevant now. That puts us right in a relegation battle I reckon!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 So watching Man City game and the Spurs player accidentally handles in the box - no pen? Why’s that’s then with this rule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Grim Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 Out for the season. I said it was an expensive gamble at the time. I'd have understood it if it was the final peice of the squad but we've got bigger issues than just one player. Am I right in thinking we still have to pay his wages till his loan officially ends? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 We are not appealing in any way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 On 12/02/2021 at 14:29, Davefevs said: Intent has its merits, whilst so does persistent misconduct. I agree, I was just questioning the comment that there should never be a red if there’s no intent. Clearly that has big pitfalls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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