Sheltons Army Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: While I fully get where these posts are coming from, the fact also remains that we will have our preferred Rules, our preferred directions for the EFL, the League- all clubs do. To enact or set up a Divisional rule change in the EFL is either 18/24 or 16/24- the Clubs in effect make the Rules and Regulations- can't recall which but one of those two is the minimum threshold. Think it used to be the first, now reduced to the second. Therefore it is important to have a strong voice there. Not only your voice as a club but to lobby- to take others with you. I imagine for example we have been quite vocal on wanting stronger enforcement on e.g. FFP. Especially two years ago after the debacle when varied clubs sold and leased back Stadiums, other fixed assets- and one even went up before a proper EFL Investigation!? Now we can stand up and say that- but we need to convince before 17 and now it might be 15, but anyway a lot of other clubs on rule changes and probably rule enforcement. We were probably also quite vocal about the Salary Cap issue but that seems to have stalled- back to the drawing board to some extent. Point is though, you don't get really get your way as a club unless you take the right number with you- assume Ashton like all other CEOs will be lobbying hard on certain matters. Unsure how much credit we can give him for it, if any at all but the EFL seem to be looking at clubs much more strictly on FFP for example. Oh yeah and his position on the EFL Board. An idea coming from a Board member at a club is likely to carry more weight, potentially. Why? Because the other clubs voted to put that Member there, for whatever reason. See also Howe at Reading, Pearce at Derby for Championship EFL Club Board Members and can't recall who else. Fair and good points Mr Pop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 8 hours ago, Gilli74 said: So while we are going through all this mess, apparently the chairman, Lansdown Jnr is in the Caribbean ‘Persuing Personal Interests’ What on earth is JL doing there? What could he possibly be doing there that’s so important whilst there’s a global pandemic which requires everyone’s buy-in to tackle. It really is a different rule book for the mega rich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, bris red said: Private jet or no private jet it would still have been illegal to leave unless he left before this lockdown started I think is the point people are making. But we don’t know that do we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 16 minutes ago, Robbored said: If you’re the son of a billionaire then private jet isn’t beyond reach as it is for the rest of us. Very poor ethically. To tackle the pandemic requires everyone’s buy in. Just because you can afford to break the rules financially shouldn't mean you’re beyond them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 All smells wrong to me, somebodys getting the bullet i reckon. Gone to escape the flak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 17 minutes ago, ScottishRed said: I think Appleton is a racing certainty - and I am not joking. There’s a lot to be said for Appleton. He fits the development model, has experience and is presently very successful. I think people are put off by his rather baleful appearance, but you’ve got to respect his record at Oxford and Lincoln. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 Nothing in that interview suggests to me that we have an Owner who will ever bring us Premiership football. That isn’t a massive issue for me right now. I just laugh at the fact that people continue to hang on the words of a Billionaire who, when it comes to football as opposed to investing money, is full of shit. Hindsight my arse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: Very poor ethically. To tackle the pandemic requires everyone’s buy in. Just because you can afford to break the rules financially shouldn't mean you’re beyond them. The rich live by their own rules, and their Tory friends turn a blind eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 1 minute ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: There’s a lot to be said for Appleton. He fits the development model, has experience and is presently very successful. I think people are put off by his rather baleful appearance, but you’ve got to respect his record at Ocford and Lincoln. What’s he done at Championship level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, bris red said: Also somebody Correct me if I’m wrong but i believe Jon’s personal residence is actually in Bristol and not Guernsey like his father.. Jon lives in North Somerset, so yes, the morality/legality of him being in the Caribbean could well be up for debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 13 hours ago, 054123 said: Steve just gets the managerial choices wrong. Steve is the owner he signs off he doesn't make the decision, This is 100% Jon and ashtons choice Steve just fronted the cash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 Just now, Monkeh said: Steve is the owner he signs off he doesn't make the decision, This is 100% Jon and ashtons choice Steve just fronted the cash Steve says you are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 What i wanted to hear is jon is working hard behind the scenes to rectify this. Not go on holiday. So tactless and out of touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 Just now, Oh Louie louie said: What i wanted to hear is jon is working hard behind the scenes to rectify this. Not go on holiday. So tactless and out of touch. It’s the Lansdown’s club, they do what they want with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 12 minutes ago, Robbored said: But we don’t know that do we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 11 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: Very poor ethically. To tackle the pandemic requires everyone’s buy in. Just because you can afford to break the rules financially shouldn't mean you’re beyond them. It’s very possible JL set off prior to the lockdown - we don’t actually know when he went. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tin Soldier Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 Just more of the usual bullsh*t, disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldstandrobin Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 10 hours ago, pongo88 said: We’ve missed the boat on a lot of managers in the last few years. Ivor, I hope you’ve discovered the secret of long life, because Bristol Sport is here to stay. The days when football clubs had a proper board of directors with a chairman have gone except, perhaps, at lower league level. Now clubs are bought by one man (it always seems to be men) who has a few million / billion to throw around. It’s their money so, not surprisingly, they want total control. SL appears to have given control to Ashton, but he still has the power to sack him at a moment’s notice WE HOPE Pongers, corrected that for you !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roe Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Robbored said: It’s very possible JL set off prior to the lockdown - we don’t actually know when he went. Either way it looks bad. He's meant to be the club chairman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Loosey Boy said: Me neither as he’s probably on the phone to Appleton as we speak 1 hour ago, Loosey Boy said: After listening to that, I’d say that as a maximum, he has the two games this week to turn things around - SL sounded royally fed-up! Wouldn’t be surprised if City were already sounding one or two potential replacements out now.....just hope that one ain’t Mr Appleton. One things for sure, if Holden goes, we can’t leave it 6 weeks to find his replacement!!!! 25 minutes ago, ScottishRed said: I think Appleton is a racing certainty - and I am not joking. 7 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: There’s a lot to be said for Appleton. He fits the development model, has experience and is presently very successful. I think people are put off by his rather baleful appearance, but you’ve got to respect his record at Oxford and Lincoln. Why all the Appleton suggestions all of a sudden? Since Ashton has been on board, we have had to hire 2 new coaches - Johnson and Holden. If he wanted Appleton in that much, he'd have done it before now. I don't like Ashton as much as most on here, but suggesting Appleton is just another reason to throw stick towards Ashton. We don't need another stick to throw, there's enough as it is!! Covid would have been the perfect excuse to get him in. It wouldn't wash, nor happen now. As for JL being in the Caribbean - perhaps he's got himself a job lined up and ended up being stuck over there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityloyal473 Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 16 minutes ago, Oh Louie louie said: All smells wrong to me, somebodys getting the bullet i reckon. Gone to escape the flak. I would imagine that both MA, and JL to some extent, hung their hats on the appointment of Holden. Their necks are on the chopping block. And given the relative defence of MA by SL, perhaps JL is being prepped for a quiet move out under the guise of other interests. As you say, someone has to take the wrap. And love or hate MA, he undoubtedly contributes more than JL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1t_ref_again Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 Got to love some on here desperate to beat the lansdowns with anything One minute JL does nothing but design the shirts next minute outrage he is not at AG sorting out the mess. We don't know if the comment is accurate, does personnel interest mean holiday or personnel non club related business interest which wold be legal, did he go before lockdown. Would have thought most would have heard of zoom and other video confetencing systems which means he is not chained to AG Sorry all a bit pathetic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 Let hope no pictures of him surface of him in a pirates hat! How can you do his role at the club from there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roe Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, sh1t_ref_again said: One minute JL does nothing but design the shirts next minute outrage he is not at AG sorting out the mess. Isn't that the same criticism? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlastonburyRed Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 40 minutes ago, bris red said: Private jet or no private jet it would still have been illegal to leave unless he left before this lockdown started I think is the point people are making. Captain Sir Tom made it to Barbados Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Exile Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, sh1t_ref_again said: Got to love some on here desperate to beat the lansdowns with anything One minute JL does nothing but design the shirts next minute outrage he is not at AG sorting out the mess. We don't know if the comment is accurate, does personnel interest mean holiday or personnel non club related business interest which wold be legal, did he go before lockdown. Would have thought most would have heard of zoom and other video confetencing systems which means he is not chained to AG Sorry all a bit pathetic The point is surely that a hash is being made of things - and since the Lansdowns run the whole show and make all the decisions the buck stops with them. No one obliged SL to buy the controlling stake in Bristol City - or put his son in the Chair. SL is happy to parade around the pitch when things are going well and gets roundly applauded for it. No one is desperate to beat them - we'd like them to be doing well, we'd all benefit from a bit of competence. The club is currently a bit of a shambles. In the Caribbean 'pursuing personal interests' - I mean right now his worst enemy couldn't come up with a more poisonous line than that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1t_ref_again Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, Red Exile said: The point is surely that a hash is being made of things - and since the Lansdowns run the whole show and make all the decisions the buck stops with them. No one obliged SL to buy the controlling stake in Bristol City - or put his son in the Chair. SL is happy to parade around the pitch when things are going well and gets roundly applauded for it. No one is desperate to beat them - we'd like them to be doing well, we'd all benefit from a bit of competence. The club is currently a bit of a shambles. In the Caribbean 'pursuing personal interests' - I mean right now his worst enemy couldn't come up with a more poisonous line than that! You are correct its a very poisonous line (which we do not know the accuracy or detail), and who ever give both those comments to Gregor was very malicious and in the inner circle within the club. If from DH after the press conference then may know he is out anyway only a case of when. SL came on the radio and is obviously very involved with what's going on and JL can easily be a party to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soultrader Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 14 hours ago, Curr Avon said: Mark (Ashton) gets a lot of stick from fans and its unjustified. Works behind the scenes, with the Football League to protect our position I thought a clubs position was decided by the number of points you score throughout a season? I foolishly believed these 'points' were awarded to each club if they won or drew a football match? Maybe I have it wrong. I assume that MA and other CEOs meet up in some kind of gladitorlal battle to decide each clubs position each year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 14 hours ago, lenred said: Some notes for anyone not heard it - verbatim where possible: ..... ........... Can’t wait to enjoy our sport again have a beer with mates. Turnaround needs to start tomorrow at home - get out there and show what we can do. Pride in the shirt and the club and compete again. Bloody good and accurate piece Len , a lot of typing , done for others , with no benefit to yourself Top Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 14 hours ago, AppyDAZE said: Injuries, let's see, blah blah ******* blah Injuries is not a good excuse tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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