Superjack Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 And he will remain out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcofisher Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 45 minutes ago, grifty said: Out of interest, what would happen if a Cook or Howe came in and weren't able to get the results/performances everyone is expecting from them? Whose fault would it be then? Eddie Nketiah’s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: I think your hypothesis will be proven right, but arguably more attractive. Pressure off for this season aside from stay up. We should manage that with new manager impetus. Potential to clear out lots of the squad in summer with possible return to crowds and thus more money to spend. Club might view things differently now and acknowledge previous way of working needs review. New training ground ready too. There's positives for sure, but Cook isn't an SL type of guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_eastender Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 49 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: Absolutely no chance. He turned us down in July last year. Please stop this, it's not happening. Agree unless Ashton goes which seems unlikely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Skin Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 1 minute ago, old_eastender said: Agree unless Ashton goes which seems unlikely This is my fear. MA will be well known in football circles so I suspect anyone of note would be reluctant to come here with him at the club. Best scenario is to put Paul Simpson in as caretaker for the test of the season and overhaul the club hierarchy in the summer, then appoint a new manager. Maybe MA can bullshit some other club into having him? Can't see it happening, sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Red Skin said: This is my fear. MA will be well known in football circles so I suspect anyone of note would be reluctant to come here with him at the club. Best scenario is to put Paul Simpson in as caretaker for the test of the season and overhaul the club hierarchy in the summer, then appoint a new manager. Maybe MA can bullshit some other club into having him? Can't see it happening, sadly. Are we hoping that Paul Simpson doesn't do too well though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: New training ground ready too. There's positives for sure, but Cook isn't an SL type of guy. You'd imagine SL is having a long think tonight. We can only hope he concludes that it's been proven once again that his 'type of guy' simply isn't up to the job and therefore his priority should be getting a manager who's experience and past successes make further success here likely. Whether he particularly likes him personally or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 I'd be interested to know why Cardiff or Sheffield Wednesday seemingly only offered him a deal until the summer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeez Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Kid in the Riot said: Absolutely no chance. He turned us down in July last year. Please stop this, it's not happening. Maybe, or apply the classic salesman's mantra: a no last week isn't necessarily a no this week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finley_Smith10 Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, mozo said: Are we hoping that Paul Simpson doesn't do too well though? Wouldn’t be appointed, can u even imagine the reaction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted February 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 Just now, JonDolman said: Cook will certainly want to make us a much bigger, physical team. We do need that of course. But still not sure if he's the ideal man for the job. Alex Neil has done so well at Preston. Or Cowley brothers? Think they're out of work I like the new photo @JonDolman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Kid in the Riot said: From Cook's agent, he wasn't keen on us and we weren't keen on him. Read what you want into that... I read that Paul Cook thinks Mark Ashton's a shitehouse and the feeling may be mutual. Join the queue, Paul! Cook is cut from the same cloth as Steve Cotterill and I think we can all guess how well Cotts gets on with Ashton and Lansdown, for that matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Red Skin said: This is my fear. MA will be well known in football circles so I suspect anyone of note would be reluctant to come here with him at the club. Best scenario is to put Paul Simpson in as caretaker for the test of the season and overhaul the club hierarchy in the summer, then appoint a new manager. Maybe MA can bullshit some other club into having him? Can't see it happening, sadly. Oh God. It really isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 48 minutes ago, JonDolman said: Seriously? You're gonna get some stick, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobintheRed Red Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 1 hour ago, steviestevieneville said: Got too much to say for himself for our board Johnsin took some beating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Skin Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 11 hours ago, Superjack said: Oh God. It really isn't. Ok, maybe not Paul Simpson but a caretaker to buy some time before a restructure can take place. Think SL needs to think carefully about the direction of the football club and that will take time. Last thing I want is another kneejerk (if you can call 6 weeks that) appointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 12 hours ago, JonDolman said: Or Cowley brothers? Think they're out of work For a good reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 23 minutes ago, Red Skin said: Ok, maybe not Paul Simpson but a caretaker to buy some time before a restructure can take place. Think SL needs to think carefully about the direction of the football club and that will take time. Last thing I want is another kneejerk (if you can call 6 weeks that) appointment. Well if we are after a caretaker until the end of the season, there is a guy with a wealth of experience and an affinity for the club that lives in Clifton. And he'd kick the players into the middle of next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 14 hours ago, AppyDAZE said: Go back and GET! Why would someone who turned us down last year want to come and be the manager of our club now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted February 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 10 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Why would someone who turned us down last year want to come and be the manager of our club now? SL and co could eat some humble pie and go back and ask. I'm with you, I think it's unlikely, but I still think he is the best choice still out there. I like many, am preparing for an underwhelming announcement after all the usual bollocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcnick Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 Steve Lansdown will make the 'rules.' Before it might have been relayed to Dean; 'Mark Ashton will give you a list of players for any needed position and you have the final say, well sort of anyway.' That wouldn't have been accepted by Cook SL may well have second thoughts now given the likes of Kasey Palmer 3m, Massengo 3m, Engvall 1m, Wells several million and a whole list of expensive injury prone loans all on high wages that just haven't worked. Paul Cook gives Steve an upgrade on so many fronts including, crucially, recruitment so I think Steve may reconsider and reign in Mark Ashton's involvement in recruitment and offer Cook terms that give him the freedom to build within a specific budget. SL does change his approach and has gone for experience in the past with the likes of Coppell. I know the odds fluctuate and aren't too meaningful but Cook is cited by Bristol Post as evens - much shorter odds than the rest of the field. On this occasion (wishful thinking) I want to believe it's a positive sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 As much as I’d be interested in Cook - if the rumours from the summer about him and club are true, there’s little chance of coming back from that. Would take a serious “back down” from either side, which I can’t see happening. EDIT - unless SL has seen the light and is willing to shuffle behind the scenes now too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Swan and Cemetery Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 Coppell and Lam indicate SL isn’t completely averse to experience, but agree with other posters, experienced managers will say “give me the rugby equivalent structure” and that means they’re in charge (quite rightly, but different to recent years). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YGBjammy Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 "Hi Paul, it's Mark. Mark Ashton from Bristol City" "Hi, I saw you sacked Holden after 6 months; real shame." "Yeah about that, I know you said you didn't want to come here in the summer, don't suppose you've changed your mind on that have you?" -line goes dead- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red7 Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 14 hours ago, The hand of RO'D said: possibly mark warburton for me He knows which side his bread's buttered on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHIPLEY RED Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 32 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Why would someone who turned us down last year want to come and be the manager of our club now? Maybe because he's been out of work for 6 months which in itself says a lot. I may be a bit ignorant but just looked up the odds and viewed Paul Cooks profile and its not brilliant. Some success in Ireland, a League 2 win and League 1 play offs. That doesn't inspire me that he's the man to take us to the Prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 14 hours ago, Redsi2 said: I would love Howe but part of me worries he would be a failure here like most. Wasnt great at Burnley. Is he a one club manager!! From what I remember did very well at Burnley, left for personal reasons, then Dyche came in and they went up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 Also needs to be borne in mind that footballs actually a smallish world with many knowing many So whatever stance we had with Hughton , Cook etc back in July will have circulated wildly Unfortunately it may put some off even showing interest. And someone thinking of applying is highly likely to pick up the phone to Hughton or Cook first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loco Rojo Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 If he's as good as people think, why hasn't another club snapped him up already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The hand of RO'D Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 22 minutes ago, Loco Rojo said: If he's as good as people think, why hasn't another club snapped him up already? Maybe he’s waiting for the right opportunity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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