hantsred Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 Football League World website saying Cook is our best match/solution (no mention that we me have already burnt this bridge!) https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/its-got-to-be-paul-cook-surely-bristol-city-search-for-dean-holden-replacement-the-verdict/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_eastender Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, hantsred said: Football League World website saying Cook is our best match/solution (no mention that we me have already burnt this bridge!) https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/its-got-to-be-paul-cook-surely-bristol-city-search-for-dean-holden-replacement-the-verdict/ All makes perfect sense, BUT cannot see it happening unless Ashton is shown the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nugget Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 Perhaps they could get him in, say ‘these are the cards you’ve been dealt’ etc (transfer window closed) ... keep us up, get us playing well & you have full control of future transfers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 1 hour ago, CHIPLEY RED said: I may be a bit ignorant but just looked up the odds and viewed Paul Cooks profile and its not brilliant. Some success in Ireland, a League 2 win and League 1 play offs. That doesn't inspire me that he's the man to take us to the Prem. In 2.5 years at Chesterfield, he won L2 in his first full season in charge and finished 6th in L1, making the play-offs, the following season. The he went to Pompey and won the L2 title again. Then he left to join Wigan in L1 where, guess what? He won the title. Not only that, Wigan went on an FA Cup run beating three Premier League teams in one season: Bournemouth, West Ham and Man City. I think it's fair to say it was widely considered he did a good job under very difficult circumstances at Wigan in the Championship. Three league titles in four seasons is anything but "not brilliant". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philly The Kid Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Sheltons Army said: Also needs to be borne in mind that footballs actually a smallish world with many knowing many So whatever stance we had with Hughton , Cook etc back in July will have circulated wildly Unfortunately it may put some off even showing interest. And someone thinking of applying is highly likely to pick up the phone to Hughton or Cook first You'd like to think that any manager who might show an interest would form their own opinion? Ask around and take note certainly, but take people's word for it? I very much doubt that! Certainly have the first informal contact or even come to an interview wary and forewarned but if you're proposing to manage egos and difficult personalities in your team then you'd never be shallow or gullible enough to take someone's word for it. Despite the negativity on here (which is understandable) This club has got a huge amount going for it and really isn't far off being successful. It WILL be attractive and I think everyone's expectations at senior management/board level will have to be adjusted to reflect the changes needed. I passionately believe we're one appointment away from being a successful club, that appointment is, as always, crucial. Sustainability is at the heart of everything SL is striving for and the quicker he realises that appointing a proven experienced manager who can bring success is the best way of achieving just that. A never ending succession of coaches with 'promise and potential' is effectively one gamble after another. The smallish world to which you rightly refer to will also be saying what a well run, stable club we are. It's all subjective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 16 hours ago, Kid in the Riot said: So? Are we a more attractive, or less attractive proposition, than the summer? 16 hours ago, Phileas Fogg said: I think your hypothesis will be proven right, but arguably more attractive. Pressure off for this season aside from stay up. We should manage that with new manager impetus. Potential to clear out lots of the squad in summer with possible return to crowds and thus more money to spend. Club might view things differently now and acknowledge previous way of working needs review. = humble pie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey54 Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 16 hours ago, Redsi2 said: I would love Howe but part of me worries he would be a failure here like most. Wasnt great at Burnley. Is he a one club manager!! He did ok at Burnley and Dyche inherited a good squad. He returned to afcb because of a death in the family. Oh and have you been to Burnley? Compared to Bournemouth........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamite Red Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Davefevs said: = humble pie Is humble pie or humility something Steve Lansdown and Ashton are capable of? I think we know the answer to that and as a result nothing will change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHIPLEY RED Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 21 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: In 2.5 years at Chesterfield, he won L2 in his first full season in charge and finished 6th in L1, making the play-offs, the following season. The he went to Pompey and won the L2 title again. Then he left to join Wigan in L1 where, guess what? He won the title. Not only that, Wigan went on an FA Cup run beating three Premier League teams in one season: Bournemouth, West Ham and Man City. I think it's fair to say it was widely considered he did a good job under very difficult circumstances at Wigan in the Championship. Three league titles in four seasons is anything but "not brilliant". As I said I'm ignorant about Paul Cook and only went off his profile on the betting site and winning L1 wasn't on there. I would still ask the question why hasn't such a brilliant manager been snapped up in the last 6 months. Don't get me wrong I'm not anti Paul Cook just not sure why he is seen as the messiah to lead us to the promised land. I would go for a "big" name but I am by no means an expert. One thing though, whoever gets the job, however inspiring or uninspiring, they will get my support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 10 minutes ago, CHIPLEY RED said: As I said I'm ignorant about Paul Cook and only went off his profile on the betting site and winning L1 wasn't on there. I would still ask the question why hasn't such a brilliant manager been snapped up in the last 6 months. Don't get me wrong I'm not anti Paul Cook just not sure why he is seen as the messiah to lead us to the promised land. I would go for a "big" name but I am by no means an expert. One thing though, whoever gets the job, however inspiring or uninspiring, they will get my support. Because he builds teams, spots and recruits talent (rough diamonds), wins leagues....on tight budgets. And he appears to take no shit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT The Optimist Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 Just curious where all the info comes from re Paul Cook not wanting it here before ? Anyone got a link or is it all pure guess work, fake news, and just general chat of course there is always someone, who knows someone , who told me.... and in fairness there have been a few decent ferrets on this forum for sniffing a bit info certainly the club never mentioned diddly squat about who was, or was not interviewed last time round, general confidentiality clauses and all that. Cook conducted himself brilliantly at Wigan, and has great pedigree. He would be a good shout but there are so many others out there as well. As long as in six weeks time we are not still debating this, but somehow...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 18 hours ago, big dosser said: yes from me to, solid and takes no shit Which is why Ashton would never hire him without Lansdown stepping in. Ashton wants control, he wants to be "the man" and if someone like Hughton had come here or if someone like Cook was looking to come here he'd be threatened because he knows they won't be told what to do when it comes to transfers or staff decisions. Ashton is one reason that we'll struggle to get a proper manager in, the other is that SL seems afraid to have anything other than a yes man too because that makes his job as owner more difficult. I'm concerned that the aim is to keep getting yes men until something clicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vespa Red Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 17 hours ago, JonDolman said: Or Cowley brothers? Think they're out of work The problem with speed reading is that I thought you said the Coen brothers. That would certainly be entertaining. Burn After Reading....haha, did you see what I did there? Did you? Did you? ******* genius me! (Although Burn After Reading was probably their shittest film). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Vespa Red said: The problem with speed reading is that I thought you said the Coen brothers. That would certainly be entertaining. Burn After Reading....haha, did you see what I did there? Did you? Did you? ******* genius me! (Although Burn After Reading was probably their shittest film). I like what you wrote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Kid in the Riot said: In 2.5 years at Chesterfield, he won L2 in his first full season in charge and finished 6th in L1, making the play-offs, the following season. The he went to Pompey and won the L2 title again. Then he left to join Wigan in L1 where, guess what? He won the title. Not only that, Wigan went on an FA Cup run beating three Premier League teams in one season: Bournemouth, West Ham and Man City. I think it's fair to say it was widely considered he did a good job under very difficult circumstances at Wigan in the Championship. Three league titles in four seasons is anything but "not brilliant". The perfect fit. Surely nothing can stop this imminent appointment!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 46 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Because he builds teams, spots and recruits talent (rough diamonds), wins leagues....on tight budgets. And he appears to take no shit! He's the Steve Cotterill of Paul Cooks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loco Rojo Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 40 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Because he builds teams, spots and recruits talent (rough diamonds), wins leagues....on tight budgets. And he appears to take no shit! Someone who has that experience and doesn't take any crap but can also motivate a mish mash squad is just the sort of person we need right now. Question is, has he got the ability to improve the number of things that appear broken at our club right now, e.g. player performances, working within the injury crisis, navigating the relationship between fans and club, managing Ashton's grasp, motivating players out of contract in the summer, transfer window now closed etc etc. Its a tough ask isn't it and shows just how important this next appointment is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 Sorry if this has already been aired............but according to McGregorface, Cook is not seen as an appropriate fit culturally....Ha! That basically means he would not toe the line, and would shake up this slumbering mess of a club? They talked about a breath of fresh air? Well Cook would pheckin blow them away with some Galeforce changes, which is what is needed. But not cosying up in the boardroom, and tipping his cap to his betters is apparently not the way things are done at "Ashton" Gate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finley_Smith10 Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, maxjak said: Sorry if this has already been aired............but according to McGregorface, Cook is not seen as an appropriate fit culturally....Ha! That basically means he would not toe the line, and would shake up this slumbering mess of a club? They talked about a breath of fresh air? Well Cook would pheckin blow them away with some Galeforce changes, which is what is needed. But not cosying up in the boardroom, and tipping his cap to his betters is apparently not the way things are done at "Ashton" Gate? Where’ve you heard this? Gregor said the club should be looking at cook on the podcast he does aswell as mentioning on twitter that he is one of the names included in the clubs interests Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 Just now, Finley_Smith10 said: Where’ve you heard this? Gregor said the club should be looking at cook on the podcast he does aswell as mentioning on twitter that he is one of the names included in the clubs interests Bristol Post site....right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finley_Smith10 Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 1 minute ago, maxjak said: Bristol Post site....right now It said ‘back then’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Finley_Smith10 said: It said ‘back then’ Well yes..........and your point is? If he was not seen as a cultural fit 6 months ago, then do you think the fact that Mr Cook has suddenly taken up Grouse Shooting, and taken elocution lessons will be a factor? If they did not see him fitting in then, please tell me what has changed at Bristol City in the interim? He is an abrasive character, which I see as a plus........but i am not on the board unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sh1t_ref_again Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, maxjak said: Well yes..........and your point is? If he was not seen as a cultural fit 6 months ago, then do you think the fact that Mr Cook has suddenly taken up Grouse Shooting, and taken elocution lessons will be a factor? If they did not see him fitting in then, please tell me what has changed at Bristol City in the interim? He is an abrasive character, which I see as a plus........but i am not on the board unfortunately. Think the point was you did not say it was prior to DH appointment, which makes the contexts different. It may or may not still be the case as we don't know exactly what was meant or what changes they are now prepared to make Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted February 17, 2021 Admin Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, maxjak said: Well yes..........and your point is? If he was not seen as a cultural fit 6 months ago, then do you think the fact that Mr Cook has suddenly taken up Grouse Shooting, and taken elocution lessons will be a factor? If they did not see him fitting in then, please tell me what has changed at Bristol City in the interim? He is an abrasive character, which I see as a plus........but i am not on the board unfortunately. Perhaps our hierarchy made a mistake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finley_Smith10 Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, maxjak said: Well yes..........and your point is? If he was not seen as a cultural fit 6 months ago, then do you think the fact that Mr Cook has suddenly taken up Grouse Shooting, and taken elocution lessons will be a factor? If they did not see him fitting in then, please tell me what has changed at Bristol City in the interim? He is an abrasive character, which I see as a plus........but i am not on the board unfortunately. Let’s just wait and see what happens, I want cook more than anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vespa Red Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 56 minutes ago, Vespa Red said: The problem with speed reading is that I thought you said the Coen brothers. That would certainly be entertaining. Burn After Reading....haha, did you see what I did there? Did you? Did you? ******* genius me! (Although Burn After Reading was probably their shittest film). Now, humour me here fellas... Coen Brothers related City films: No Sub's Bench for Old Men Far(to)go The Big Dziekanowski Oh Lansdown, Where Art Thou Hail (Gus) Caesar Intolerable Cruelty (that one didn't need any messing about with) The Man Who Wasn't There (could be about 95% of the current squad/Board) Incidentally, it's a big YES from me for Paul Cook With Ethan Coen as his number 2 True Shit Sorry, please feel free to carry on with the serious post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoyo2345 Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 Don’t know why anyone wants cook never done anything above league 1. Howe all the way for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coach Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 Got a feeling Howe would just be a repeat of Coppell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 32 minutes ago, Finley_Smith10 said: Let’s just wait and see what happens, I want cook more than anyone No. No you don’t. I do. I’ll let you be second though. Actually there are two ways of reading your statement... which is it? (a) I’m the supporter who wants him most. (b) I want Paul cook more than I want anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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