Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 11 hours ago, Keepers Ball said: Bristol City is bigger than Bournemouth. Take away their time in the Premier League and what do you have? I’m not sure what recent league positions have to do with anything anyway? Using that logic Yeovil are bigger than Pompey (and the Gas), Blackpool and Wigan are bigger than Wednesday, Derby, Forest and Birmingham And Burton Albion are massive compared to Sunderland. 2 hours ago, Top Robin said: My god, I can't quite believe this topic. It is so trivial and irrelevant when there are so many more important things to debate about at the moment. It almost seems childish and frankly who gives a toss. You’re right, it really doesn’t matter outside local bragging rights however it is an interesting debate. Far more interesting than a lot of the other drivel that gets discussed on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Alligator Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 12 hours ago, slartibartfast said: are they **** Yes they are. It's a question of success. The "we've got more fans than you" idea butters no parsnips Slarti. Newcastle are a classic case of big club syndrome. What have they won though?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 20 minutes ago, Red_Alligator said: Yes they are. It's a question of success. The "we've got more fans than you" idea butters no parsnips Slarti. Newcastle are a classic case of big club syndrome. What have they won though?. As I keep saying, more successful doesn't equal bigger, yes, they are better than us, but that's a different argument . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Notgetinya Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 4 hours ago, CotswoldRed said: By which measure, 2 clubs can swap "bigger" every season. Weird. If you only have the ability to view it season on season rather than over a reasonable period of time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Alligator Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 51 minutes ago, slartibartfast said: As I keep saying, more successful doesn't equal bigger, yes, they are better than us, but that's a different argument . Just because you keep saying something it doesn't make it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 8 minutes ago, Red_Alligator said: Just because you keep saying something it doesn't make it right. And just because you keep arguing, it doesn't make it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolskRed Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 We are a bigger club in many ways, they have been more successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Alligator Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 14 minutes ago, The Gasbuster said: And just because you keep arguing, it doesn't make it right. I offer only my opinion buster and reserve the right to defend it on a public forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzos Only Goal Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 16 hours ago, WECANDO said: Just having a chat with a fellow City fan as to which is the bigger club. Bournemouth or Bristol City. He thinks Howe wouldn't pick us over them as they are a bigger club than City. They have parachute money plus better players. I said we have a much bigger stadium and fan base plus top range training facility. All City need is a decent manager. What makes a club bigger than another? I agree with you we are a bigger club, they are a more successful club in recent years with a few more quid in the pocket at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzos Only Goal Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Red_Alligator said: Yes they are. It's a question of success. The "we've got more fans than you" idea butters no parsnips Slarti. Newcastle are a classic case of big club syndrome. What have they won though?. Newcastle have won 4 League titles, 6 FA Cups and a Charity Shield, as well as the 1969 Inter-Cities Fairs Cup and the 2006 UEFA Intertoto Cup, the ninth highest total of trophies won by an English club. I think that makes them the 9th biggest club in terms of success and they have a big stadium decent fan base and erm a big fat owner too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Red_Alligator said: Yes they are. It's a question of success. The "we've got more fans than you" idea butters no parsnips Slarti. Newcastle are a classic case of big club syndrome. What have they won though?. 5 minutes ago, Lorenzos Only Goal said: Newcastle have won 4 League titles, 6 FA Cups and a Charity Shield, as well as the 1969 Inter-Cities Fairs Cup and the 2006 UEFA Intertoto Cup, the ninth highest total of trophies won by an English club. I think that makes them the 9th biggest club in terms of success and they have a big stadium decent fan base and erm a big fat owner too. Yes, but apart from 4 league titles, 6 FA Cups the Charity Shield , The 1969 Inter City Fairs Cup ........... what has Newcastle ever won? Crucially,in the eyes of too many modern day fans just what has Newcastle won since football “really” started in 1993? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 We are def more of an embarrassment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 Are Bournemouth a bigger club than us? Not imho. Are they infinitely more attractive a proposition to a prospective manager at the mo’? Ten zillion percent, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 6 hours ago, Monkeh said: yes they are, they can attract better players due to a prolonged spell in the top flight, Which they cheated to get too, made hundreds of millions of £££ and got a £4.75 million pound fine, comical. Of course we are a bigger club, when Bournemouth turn up at AG with half the crowd I will accept their bigger, something we used to do at theirs. Blackburn used to attract players away from Man Utd, were they a bigger club than them at the time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilRascal Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 Average league positions over time: http://alltimeleaguetable.co.uk/ Bournemouth are punching well above their weight at the moment, and have been for a few seasons - they've been massive over-achievers lately. Whereas we are exactly in our average position at the moment. Hate to say it, but mid-table 2nd tier is our natural home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 5 hours ago, Red_Alligator said: Just because you keep saying something it doesn't make it right. Of course, that wouldn't apply to you now would it? Any case, there is no right or wrong answer, just perception . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judda Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 Can't be bothered to read the whole thread but my thoughts are were we a bigger club than Manchester City when they were below us? No. Surely you don't just judge on last few years.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 I find it annoying when some football fans do the “my club is bigger than your club” posturing (although having said that, I enjoy us being bigger than the fewers!). Lots of the time it’s meaningless and so subjective and leads to the arrogant belief “we should be beating teams like this”. So as to comparisons between City and Bournemouth - They have recently spent a number of seasons in the Premier League (after being a lower division club for pretty much as long as I can remember), have rich owners (I think?) and parachute payments that give them a decent chance of getting promoted (and they are much more likely to be promoted than us). We have a bigger ground, bigger crowds, a wealthy owner, a history of mainly having a higher league position than them and higher expectations (not that those have really got us anywhere). I’m not sure where I’m going with those comparisons. Anyway, I’ve always enjoyed away trips to Bournemouth and quite liked their ground before it was rebuilt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 The "bigger" club debate is a silly argument brought up by fans of failing "big" teams to try to justify their club's ongoing subjective importance in the absence of evidence. There is no doubt at all Bournemouth have had more success than us in recent years. There might be some criteria some people come up with as to why we're somehow "bigger" despite that but it pretty much counts for diddly squat. All that matters is what happens on the pitch and they do that better than we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keepers Ball Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 10 hours ago, Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan said: I’m not sure what recent league positions have to do with anything anyway? Using that logic Yeovil are bigger than Pompey (and the Gas), Blackpool and Wigan are bigger than Wednesday, Derby, Forest and Birmingham And Burton Albion are massive compared to Sunderland. You’re right, it really doesn’t matter outside local bragging rights however it is an interesting debate. Far more interesting than a lot of the other drivel that gets discussed on here. You've just argued with your own examples Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderrider Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 As much as I hate to admit it, I think the fact that Bournemouth are being linked with Thierry Henry and we're being linked with league one nobody's answers your question. Regardless of Henry's managerial credentials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myol'man Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 Bournemouth on a par with the gas. Just had a lucky run under the Russian mafia. Could end up like Coventry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 14 minutes ago, ciderrider said: As much as I hate to admit it, I think the fact that Bournemouth are being linked with Thierry Henry and we're being linked with league one nobody's answers your question. Regardless of Henry's managerial credentials. Nothing at all to do with the "size", everything to do with £££££ ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 The obvious adjunct is "potentially"........we have the bigger potential, but potential won't get us to the Premiership? And the more time we waste by continually appointing the wrong manager, the more clubs with less potential will overtake us and leave us behind. There are only 20 places available at the top table. At this very moment, I guess the fact they are going for Thierry Henry while we are looking at Paul Cook, means right now Bournemouth are the bigger club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keepers Ball Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 11 minutes ago, ciderrider said: As much as I hate to admit it, I think the fact that Bournemouth are being linked with Thierry Henry and we're being linked with league one nobody's answers your question. Regardless of Henry's managerial credentials. because the words "Premier League" and "parachute payments" come to mind. People like Henry seem to think in stature bournemouth are a name - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoh Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 13 hours ago, Top Robin said: My god, I can't quite believe this topic. It is so trivial and irrelevant when there are so many more important things to debate about at the moment. It almost seems childish and frankly who gives a toss. statistically mostly young adults followed older men after failed marriages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Keepers Ball said: You've just argued with your own examples I’m not sure I have mate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Constant Rabbit Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 If you are an up and coming player or ambitious manager, then this would answer the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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