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Nigel Pearson - Confirmed ‘Manager’ Till End of Season


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16 minutes ago, sinenomine said:

I understand that Downing & Simpson are not popular at the moment but is there any evidence that their coaching is inadequate under the right leadership? They might not be management material (plenty of good coaches aren't) but it doesn't necessarily mean they aren't good coaches. 

Quite. 

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6 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

I'd argue the evidence is that since they came in the team has started to lose the ability to do the basics - and it has just got worse and worse and worse.

Now we have a less than 50% pass rate completion and can't defend set pieces.

It's a fair point. I honestly have no idea how much of that is down to Holden or Downing & Simpson or the players (who must take a decent portion of the responsibility for not being able to get basic schoolboy football right). 

For me the jury is out. Won't hang them yet. 

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4 hours ago, Gakoe said:

I posted on another thread that there was zero chance of appointing him. I didn't think SL and MA would have the balls for such a character. 

God I hope I'm wrong 🤞

Same here.  Top pedigree manager, us looking up rather than down (or sideways) for a replacement.  I don’t doubt for one minute his quality, I just didn’t think SL/MA would go for him, nor him for us.

Much as I’d like it longer than short-term, I suspect as others have suggested it gives a sensible get-out on both sides.

4 hours ago, JonDolman said:

Pearson will have to follow the club philosophy.

To be fair he has signed a lot of young players in the past.

With our academy players coming through, I think it will be similar to others that are now part of our squad.

Do well out on loan ideally in league one, or possibly in league two like Bakinson, and then they will be back as part of our squad the next season if ready.

I've never really been that keen on youngsters playing if they don't look ready in training. The likes of Towler and Owura most likely need a loan next season. That might be all they need to then come back ready.

Obviously we will every now and then get a superb talent like Kelly that doesn't even need a loan. Tins seems to think Alex Scott could be ready for first team action soon. So maybe he's one like that.

I don't see why some think it's a bad model. The signings of players in their early 20s have not been quite so impressive recently, so hopefully Pearson helps improve that.

The club have shown they are willing to bring in experienced players who are likely on high wages if that's what the manager wants. Holden clearly wanted that and got it.

Things can always been improved and I'm hoping Pearson does that on the recruitment side. But the way we work I think is the right way and just needs that right manager to make it work better imo.

I'm still far more concerned about the injuries than I am anything else and I'm hoping Pearson will identify something in that and will challenge the club and suggest changes to hopefully prevent so many of them in the future.

 

 

Think we need to worry about recruitment and loans when the time comes.  I fully expect him to keep us in this division this season, but with window shut I can’t see us going out into the OOC market.  Hopefully some left sided players are back soon, but Sessegnon’s return helps.

Funny you mention Alex Scott....I’ve heard good things, and the fact that he is usually selected over Benarous must mean he’s well thought of too.

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58 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

My only concern with this is it sounds like he needs to be surrounded by an elite coaching team that will take day-to-day training. If he is a manager that coaches, then he'll be more reliant on his coaching team.

On this basis I really hope he brings his own men in, because as of now I don't have a lot of faith in Simpson and Downing. 

I’m guessing he may be expected to work with the current coaches until the end of the season and then will be offered a permanent deal if it’s in everyone’s interests, and given free reign to bring his own team in? 

Here’s hoping because on the evidence of what we’ve seen on the pitch our coaching is horrendous. 

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It will be interesting if it happens for our coaches if they stay. Instead of a clueless novice where they maybe felt they had the greater knowledge they will have to deal with vastly experienced and successful player and manager. They will come under the spotlight in a way they have not been used to. In other words they will really have to earn their wages.

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2 hours ago, And Its Smith said:

Whether Pearson is in place tomorrow night or not, I expect the players to miraculously improve on recent showings. Almost like they are trying harder 

I hope Tomas Kalas tells him who the lazy bastards are.

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He knows the league, also Prem experience. Is a strong character, and we have done well with those in the past (GJ/SC) . He organises teams, and takes no prisoners, works on the man management side very well. Some will get lost on the journey, but this is a big step forward in experience that we needed. He lives in the South west which is also great . He has wanted this job before. I would think most fans would say this is a good move by the club.  Big mess he is walking into, but he has done that before. Will take a few games, but I would expect some semblance of a team very soon and some clarity for the players to work to. 

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2 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Same here.  Top pedigree manager, us looking up rather than down (or sideways) for a replacement.  I don’t doubt for one minute his quality, I just didn’t think SL/MA would go for him, nor him for us.

Much as I’d like it longer than short-term, I suspect as others have suggested it gives a sensible get-out on both sides.

Think we need to worry about recruitment and loans when the time comes.  I fully expect him to keep us in this division this season, but with window shut I can’t see us going out into the OOC market.  Hopefully some left sided players are back soon, but Sessegnon’s return helps.

Funny you mention Alex Scott....I’ve heard good things, and the fact that he is usually selected over Benarous must mean he’s well thought of too.

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Not this Alex Scott then?!

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Just now, Kid in the Riot said:

True. It is a slight concern though that you really have to go back to 2014/15 for the last time Pearson did an impressive job at a club - Leicester.

Did not do well at Derby or in Belgium with Leuven. 

He did a very good job at Watford. They were all but down when he took over. 

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1 minute ago, Kid in the Riot said:

True. It is a slight concern though that you really have to go back to 2014/15 for the last time Pearson did an impressive job at a club - Leicester.

Did not do well at Derby or in Belgium with Leuven. 

my worry as well, can't stop thinking about how bad SOD was for us despite what he did for Doncaster - a short term contract til end of season is def the best way to go IMO

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3 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Yes, the evidence is the absolute shambolic performances of the players. Worst coached set of individuals and as a team I can remember. Can't create chances, can't win corners, can't cross the ball, can't pass, can't take throw ins properly etc etc. Performances should improve under Pearson but it doesn't escape the fact that the coaching of this squad has been very poor.

It'll be interesting to see if these basics improve if these coaches remain under a new gaffer. 

I accept your point and I don't think they should get away with not being scrutinised but I don't know how much of the recent inability of this squad is down to Holden's leadership or the players themselves. 

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2 minutes ago, The Bard said:

He did a very good job at Watford. They were all but down when he took over. 

They were 7 points adrift when he took over, and 3 points safe with 2 games to go when he was sacked . That they then got relegated was crazy. Reading the press, it says he was being tipped for manager of the season if he had kept them up. So hard to say he did not perform. Derby is less clear what went wrong though. 

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7 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

True. It is a slight concern though that you really have to go back to 2014/15 for the last time Pearson did an impressive job at a club - Leicester.

Did not do well at Derby or in Belgium with Leuven. 

The job he did at Watford was unbelievable?!

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1 hour ago, Redrascal2 said:

Brilliant if it comes off. Just what we have been crying out for COYR.

Yep, fantastic.

Makes you wonder how “they” could possibly decide Holden was the outstanding candidate in the summer if they think that the calibre of Nigel Pearson now is what they need.  That’s not dissing Holden, but it confirms again and again that SL took his eye off the ball, trusted MA and JL too much, and they got it wrong.  He’s had to step-in twice in a week.  Maybe with Covid and the powers of zoom in everyday life, maybe he doesn’t need to step back as much as he thought.  Not saying SL is wonderful all of a sudden, just that his faith in his delegates was misguided.

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8 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Same here.  Top pedigree manager, us looking up rather than down (or sideways) for a replacement.  I don’t doubt for one minute his quality, I just didn’t think SL/MA would go for him, nor him for us.

Much as I’d like it longer than short-term, I suspect as others have suggested it gives a sensible get-out on both sides.

Think we need to worry about recruitment and loans when the time comes.  I fully expect him to keep us in this division this season, but with window shut I can’t see us going out into the OOC market.  Hopefully some left sided players are back soon, but Sessegnon’s return helps.

Funny you mention Alex Scott....I’ve heard good things, and the fact that he is usually selected over Benarous must mean he’s well thought of too.

Yeah I'm just thinking if it was to be beyond this season.

But if it is only these final games this season then happy with that. 

Only seen Alex Scott come on in one game and he looked class in the very limited time he was on the pitch. And even just in goals shown for the 23s that he's involved in.

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4 minutes ago, TedsHeadIs Red said:

The question is whether Pearson's no nonsense approach will be right for our players.

Will they be motivated or will they crumble under such discipline? After all, they haven't proved themselves to be tough nuts so far.

Nigel may have to bring some cotton wool.

He will be right for some and wrong for others. His challenge will be to carry enough of them to get a functioning team. It’s the challenge every manager faces. What I hope will be different is that I suspect he will be sure enough of what he wants and strong enough to drop those who he does not think will deliver it on the pitch.

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12 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

True. It is a slight concern though that you really have to go back to 2014/15 for the last time Pearson did an impressive job at a club - Leicester.

Did not do well at Derby or in Belgium with Leuven. 

Agreed. Think it’s a much bigger gamble than most seem to on here. I always thought Shakespeare was known to be a big part of Pearson’s success. 

He does speak very intelligently in podcasts etc but is still a highly volatile character with numerous incidents at most (all?) of his clubs.

 

🤞 it works out 

 

5 minutes ago, petehinton said:

The job he did at Watford was unbelievable?!

For a while then they lost the plot 

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55 minutes ago, Richard Head said:

“Let’s talk about the future now we’ve put the past away.” Less Than Zero - Elvis Costello

"History repeats the old conceits, the same replies, the same defeats. Keep your eye on important issues with crocodile tears and a pocket full of tissues" - Beyond Belief -E. Costello :) 

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12 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

True. It is a slight concern though that you really have to go back to 2014/15 for the last time Pearson did an impressive job at a club - Leicester.

Did not do well at Derby or in Belgium with Leuven. 

Unsure how you can think he didn't do a decent job, all things considered in his last job at Watford? Any manager to even get them close to surviving from when he took over would have struggled imo.

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22 minutes ago, erndogz said:

 

 

22 minutes ago, erndogz said:

I guess this has been posted in the thread somewhere but I enjoyed this interview with NP https://fcbusiness.co.uk/news/managing-in-the-modern-game-nigel-pearson-the-leader/

Deep thinker and very articulate, something which belies his public persona.

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16 minutes ago, erndogz said:

I guess this has been posted in the thread somewhere but I enjoyed this interview with NP https://fcbusiness.co.uk/news/managing-in-the-modern-game-nigel-pearson-the-leader/

 

16 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

True. It is a slight concern though that you really have to go back to 2014/15 for the last time Pearson did an impressive job at a club - Leicester.

Did not do well at Derby or in Belgium with Leuven. 

From the link shared by erndogz:

How have you learned to overcome setbacks within the role and has this affected the way you manage?

“There have been times when things haven’t worked out. Joining Derby was just a terrible decision. I think I took my eye off the team when I worked in Belgium, trying to affect things that I couldn’t affect, and misjudging others agendas.“

 

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