Red-Robbo Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 1 minute ago, TonyTonyTony said: For me, this whole "do we like each other" is simmering away in the back of my mind. Does SL already concede he isn't a yes man, and doesnt fit the required bcfc "profile", but just wants him to keep us up, before reverting back to aforementioned yes man in the summer? Hope im wrong of course ! Exactly. We really don't know how much appointing NP shows a different attitude from SL to running the club and how that dynamic works with Ashton. Are their truth in the Ipswich rumours? Time will tell. As an opposition fan, Pearson's tactics and pre- and post-match analysis have got on my wick in the past. But that also suggests he's the sort of guy you want inside your tent pissing out rather than outside pissing in! Maybe we'll lose this much remarked on reputation for being "too nice to be successful". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 54 minutes ago, Tonks55 said: I don’t think many of us supporters believe that the structure of having a CEO managing ‘football’ matters is one that works. Sure we have sold some players for a good fee but have failed to replace them with players of good quality. However I don’t think the signing of Nigel Pearson indicates that Lansdown is ready to change that structure. I truly believe that he feels that the structure is right, it’s just that he hasn’t yet appointed the right manager to work successfully in that structure. He has appointed Nigel Pearson as there is a more pressing priority – avoiding relegation and Nigel Pearson is the best appointment to achieve that. Once he achieves that then Lansdown will wheel in his next managerial choice to work with Mark Ashton, thanking Nigel Pearson for his service. Nigel Pearson, for his part, is happy for this to happen as the lack of control over player signings is not an issue for him as his brief is to prevent relegation with the existing squad, for which he will be amply rewarded. Lansdown has never shown any humility and admitted a mistake. He is not likely to change his club structure and admit a mistake. The only thing that might change that is for Pearson to be a roaring success and make Lansdown think hard about his structure. If that happens then Pearson will be off to a bigger club. So I think the appointment is precisely what it says on the tin – until the end of the season. It’s been really interesting reading and listening more about NP over the last few days....especially his relationship with Steve Walsh at Leicester. Essentially he said he’s only really interested in recruitment when the recruitment team brings a target to him to get the ok to take to the board. That sounds perfect for MA doesn’t it? Before you start getting worried hear me out!!! What he also went on to day was he really trusted Steve Walsh, that Walsh knew what he was looking at, what the team has, what the team haven’t got and what they need to get...and how that all fitted with team identity too. Add to that, Walsh was a long time scout (Bury, Chester, and Chelsea before teaming up with NP) and you start to see that SW and MA are very different. Couple that with SW’s brother being Mickey, and you start to see a footballing history to add to that. A proper football-man, not an administrator / negotiator. If MA is still around if MP stays beyond this season, I see him having to build huge trust with NP or it will end horribly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 13 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: the sort of guy you want inside your tent pissing out rather than outside pissing in! I cant think of any guys id want pissing in or around my tent. Certainly not Nigel and his angry, forceful pisses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globe Trotter Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 It will end in tears. Tears of white joy as Nige marches us in to the Premier League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 Boris Johnson told us a while ago it would end in tiers. Despite Pearson's best endeavours we might still down. You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. If that were to happen, we would, at least, go down fighting. Having said that, I think he'll keep us up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 On 23/02/2021 at 12:38, Murraysrightplum said: Willie Eckerslike His brother Kenny was the better player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrumpys Dietary Advisor.. Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 On 23/02/2021 at 15:04, Davefevs said: It’s been really interesting reading and listening more about NP over the last few days....especially his relationship with Steve Walsh at Leicester. Essentially he said he’s only really interested in recruitment when the recruitment team brings a target to him to get the ok to take to the board. That sounds perfect for MA doesn’t it? Before you start getting worried hear me out!!! What he also went on to day was he really trusted Steve Walsh, that Walsh knew what he was looking at, what the team has, what the team haven’t got and what they need to get...and how that all fitted with team identity too. Add to that, Walsh was a long time scout (Bury, Chester, and Chelsea before teaming up with NP) and you start to see that SW and MA are very different. Couple that with SW’s brother being Mickey, and you start to see a footballing history to add to that. A proper football-man, not an administrator / negotiator. If MA is still around if MP stays beyond this season, I see him having to build huge trust with NP or it will end horribly. I remember Steve Walsh well, defender turned attacker, round the same time as Paul Warhurst doing the same. Point is, he was a footballer who played at the highest level so clearly, he knew a good player when he saw one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 13 minutes ago, Scrumpys Dietary Advisor.. said: I remember Steve Walsh well, defender turned attacker, round the same time as Paul Warhurst doing the same. Point is, he was a footballer who played at the highest level so clearly, he knew a good player when he saw one... Believe it or not, it’s a different Steve Walsh! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Walsh_(scout) this is the one you’re referring to. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Walsh_(footballer) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 Is nobody going to say "it will all end in tears"? Mrs Downend said exactly that, when she came into the kitchen earlier as I was chopping onions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrumpys Dietary Advisor.. Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Believe it or not, it’s a different Steve Walsh! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Walsh_(scout) this is the one you’re referring to. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Walsh_(footballer) Small world.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Maesknoll Red Posted February 24, 2021 Admin Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 As one of life’s pessimists, I know at some point it’ll all end in tears, but even I can take solace in the fact this appointment was made swiftly, decisively and has fully united the fan base and is currently probably the best we could have wished for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoh Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, downendcity said: Is nobody going to say "it will all end in tears"? Mrs Downend said exactly that, when she came into the kitchen earlier as I was chopping onions. why did you name the cat onions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcofisher Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 Not sure if I buy this "he will be poached by a bigger club if he does well" mentality. If things are going well by the end of the season then it is a much bigger risk for him to go somewhere else with a fresh set of players and a different set of ideas. He will look at the time Lee Johnson was given and will see stability and the time to build something if he continues beyond this season. He has said himself he would love the job beyond this season, and he does not strike me as the sort of man who would say something just to please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 On 23/02/2021 at 11:01, Redpool said: Every management appoint will always end in tears. It's the nature of football management. Let’s be positive. He will get us to the Promised Land within four years. Give us a season or two in top flight and then at his age will become DOF to a younger manager. He will be here for the long term Believe! He is the real thing. First time since old Harry Thickett, do I feel so positive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 On 23/02/2021 at 11:38, Redland said: Personally I think this is a good appointment and it’s a great shame that we did not appoint Pearson or a manager of similar calibre back in the summer. I hope Pearson is able to halt the current slide down the table but if we are ultimately relegated at least I feel the club has attempted to fix its mistake. It can’t be criticised for that. Is he the one that SL wanted in the summer but he wasn't available due to Covid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 Pearson will fail sooner or later all managers fail at some point, It's inevitable like thanos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnzFM Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 Apart from Sir Alex, was there any managerial appointment that didn’t end in tears? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TedsHeadIs Red Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 9 hours ago, Maesknoll Red said: As one of life’s pessimists, I know at some point it’ll all end in tears, but even I can take solace in the fact this appointment was made swiftly, decisively and has fully united the fan base and is currently probably the best we could have wished for. Absolutely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TedsHeadIs Red Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 25 minutes ago, BarnzFM said: Apart from Sir Alex, was there any managerial appointment that didn’t end in tears? ..or people are totally bemused by your early resignation e.g Bill Shankly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crackers Corner Posted February 25, 2021 Report Share Posted February 25, 2021 On 23/02/2021 at 10:55, Major Isewater said: Fuchs only knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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