Slippin cider Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 I take it he’s still with us? Went to Aberdeen on loan, is he back? Fit? Just wondered if he could fit in with NP and his plans .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allwaysred Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 9 minutes ago, Slippin cider said: I take it he’s still with us? Went to Aberdeen on loan, is he back? Fit? Just wondered if he could fit in with NP and his plans .. No not fit but 1 that needs shippingn in summer another few million wasted...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeneys Penalties Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, Allwaysred said: No not fit but 1 that needs shippingn in summer another few million wasted...... few? I thought it was £1million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobintheRed Red Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Allwaysred said: No not fit but 1 that needs shippingn in summer another few million wasted...... What a waste of money i could have been more use than him he an johnson must have shared a nice Brown envelope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 7 minutes ago, Sweeneys Penalties said: few? I thought it was £1million Wages/signing on fee I assumed was included in their post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 Never given a true chance here, probably not top half Champ standard but did alright when he played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Grovesy Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 ........ and we are the only club to pay a fee for him. Norwich saw us coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 8 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said: Never given a true chance here, probably not top half Champ standard but did alright when he played. 1 minute ago, JonDolman said: Will help when he is back. Need more options I'd agree with both these posts. I don't think he's done enough to earn a new contract but he's a decent Championship level direct forward who, in the few games he has played, has shown enough to suggest he can give us another option going forward. I don't think he'd be a bad fit for what I imagine Pearson wants to do - i.e. organised, direct attacking football - and I reckon if he gets fit he'll have a role to play, at least from the bench, in the last few weeks of the season. He's a limited player, for sure, but can be effective in his way and I do think he gets some unfair stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_eastender Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 9 minutes ago, Red Grovesy said: ........ and we are the only club to pay a fee for him. Norwich saw us Mark Ashton coming. corrected for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 Would have been handy to have around this season with all the injuries (ignoring his own, obviously). Was on to a loser from the start with our fanbase because of his previous connections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddrive Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 I always like the player. Not the most gifted but I feel he never let us down when called upon. Good squad player, physical and scored goals. I reckon he might get game time, when fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocking Red Cyril Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 1 hour ago, cidercity1987 said: Never given a true chance here, probably not top half Champ standard but did alright when he played. Yes did not get great chance when was fit. But I do feel he offers so. Some thing differnt and gave us a better attacking edge when played. But depends on fitness. And weather our new boss has him on his plans I suppose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Red Grovesy said: ........ and we are the only club to pay a fee for him. Norwich saw us coming. In the window before we signed him there was talk of a £3m fee!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Grovesy Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Davefevs said: In the window before we signed him there was talk of a £3m fee!!! Blimey Dave. That's crazy. As others have said, a reasonable lower to mid table championship squad player. I feel we should have been aiming a little higher, quality wise and not giving Norwich cash for him. Just my opinion. In three years he's played about 25 games for us if I remember correctly. Value for money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 34 minutes ago, Red Grovesy said: Blimey Dave. That's crazy. As others have said, a reasonable lower to mid table championship squad player. I feel we should have been aiming a little higher, quality wise and not giving Norwich cash for him. Just my opinion. In three years he's played about 25 games for us if I remember correctly. Value for money? Yep, crazy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 Wasn't it about £1m in the end? He was very good at Barnsley in 2016/17 at this level but he never hit the heights here or at Norwich. Hasn't he had quite a few injuries here. Actually think a fit and in form Watkins- okay a Barnsley level Watkins then- would have useful attributes for a Pearson side but it's just not happened for him post Barnsley. I do remember early on here, goals vs a decent Blackburn and a Sheffield United who would go on to get promotion. Hit woodwork v Rotherham end of September, would've been pro rata a 10-15 goals a season ratio had that gone in. Maybe his confidence and performance level, consistency would have grown. Unsure when but definitely remember him being injured in 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRFTG Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 3 hours ago, Red Grovesy said: ........ and we are the only club to pay a fee for him. Norwich saw us coming. Lovely days drinking with their fans when last there. They were 'apologetic' not only for having Watkins foisted into our squad but moreso for having taken a king's ransom for him. They didn't need to re-enforce our opinion that he was unadulterated crap, but did so anyway..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 The problem was his injury record, when given a run of games he did ok but the run usually lasted about 5 games before getting injured again. When recruiting we need to give players with a poor fitness record a wide berth, sometimes we get tempted if they're particularly skilful (eg Mawson, Baker). Players like Brownhill, Flint, Pack are worth a lot more just because they're nearly always available for selection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, BTRFTG said: Lovely days drinking with their fans when last there. They were 'apologetic' not only for having Watkins foisted into our squad but moreso for having taken a king's ransom for him. They didn't need to re-enforce our opinion that he was unadulterated crap, but did so anyway..... Doesn't quite explain his 2016/17 at Barnsley in which he was excellent however. System player? Comfort zone- golden spell that he peaked in? 10 goals and 7 assists, with physical attributes and some decent technical stats isn't something to be dismissed lightly. Never got close to it since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRFTG Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Doesn't quite explain his 2016/17 at Barnsley in which he was excellent however. System player? Comfort zone- golden spell that he peaked in? 10 goals and 7 assists, with physical attributes and some decent technical stats isn't something to be dismissed lightly. Never got close to it since. His problem is he both looks and plays like Stephen Pearson lite (and that ISN'T a flattering comparison.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 Watkins is a disrupter. We could have used some of that recently! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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