Mr Popodopolous Posted February 27, 2021 Report Share Posted February 27, 2021 Despite the win. I know today was a bit soft and a bit self-inflicted. Bit of both at the same time basically. However we don't get many. Attacking more is one part of it, from early 2019/20 to Barnsley at home it's been quite low taken as a whole. If anyone can get it without looking it up, I'll be quite impressed. M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted February 27, 2021 Report Share Posted February 27, 2021 I certainly cannot think of many at all. Could it be as low as two a season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted February 27, 2021 Report Share Posted February 27, 2021 5? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted February 27, 2021 Report Share Posted February 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said: I certainly cannot think of many at all. Could it be as low as two a season? That's what my gut feeling was. Fam scored one at QPR a couple of years ago, Wells has scored one and blazed one over this term. I don't think it's many. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said: I certainly cannot think of many at all. Could it be as low as two a season? Yep- 2019/20 3 and this season to date it's 2. I think it might have been 4 in 2018/19 but then we attacked more- but some sides do seem to get quite a lot relative to the fairly attacking output but we are not one! Leeds attacked loads over the last two seasons under Bielsa yet didn't get awarded that many all told. Thought the Palmer one today against us was soft. Indeed just checked Transfermarkt and it said we only got 2 in 2018/19- yet our attacking numbers were clearly better than this and last season overall! It's 7 in 2 seasons and 33 games in the League. Edited February 27, 2021 by Mr Popodopolous 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chivs Posted February 27, 2021 Report Share Posted February 27, 2021 I think after referees saw Tomlin's effort they decided there wasn't much point awarding them to us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted February 27, 2021 Report Share Posted February 27, 2021 23 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Yep- 2019/20 3 and this season to date it's 2. I think it might have been 4 in 2018/19 but then we attacked more- but some sides do seem to get quite a lot relative to the fairly attacking output but we are not one! Leeds attacked loads over the last two seasons under Bielsa yet didn't get awarded that many all told. Thought the Palmer one today against us was soft. Indeed just checked Transfermarkt and it said we only got 2 in 2018/19- yet our attacking numbers were clearly better than this and last season overall! It's 7 in 2 seasons and 33 games in the League. Fam missed one away to PNE last season didn't he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: Fam missed one away to PNE last season didn't he? Was at Swansea I think. I've checked a report from the game though, Weimann disallowed for offside, Diedhiou disallowed for a foul in build-up and they (Preston) got two penalties! One of which was a terrible decision. Edited February 27, 2021 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reigate Red Posted February 27, 2021 Report Share Posted February 27, 2021 25 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: I think it might have been 4 in 2018/19 but then we attacked more- but some sides do seem to get quite a lot relative to the fairly attacking output but we are not one! Yes - for example the Gas who no matter what the relative merits of their attacking strike force maybe they consistently get awarded them season after season. Would be interesting to see comparison stats (and yes I am too lazy to do the research). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2021 Just now, Reigate Red said: Yes - for example the Gas who no matter what the relative merits of their attacking strike force maybe they consistently get awarded them season after season. Would be interesting to see comparison stats (and yes I am too lazy to do the research). Actually checked it was 2 even in 2018/19- when we had better attacking output, numbers. 3 last year, 2 so far this- so tracking for 2-3 a season on average. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted February 27, 2021 Report Share Posted February 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Was at Swansea I think. I've checked a report from the game though, Weimann disallowed for offside, Diedhiou disallowed for a foul in build-up and they (Preston) got two penalties! One of which was a terrible decision. That was it, they got two. Fam missed a goal from about the penalty spot, but it wasn't a pen. Anyway, it's not many is it. But then we have been actively avoiding the opposition box for about two years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: That was it, they got two. Fam missed a goal from about the penalty spot, but it wasn't a pen. Anyway, it's not many is it. But then we have been actively avoiding the opposition box for about two years. Yes attacking output down but if you look at some of the charts relative to creativity there are some interesting results over the last few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slacker Posted February 27, 2021 Report Share Posted February 27, 2021 Ref's got fed up waiting for JET to finish his run up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted February 27, 2021 Report Share Posted February 27, 2021 3 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Yep- 2019/20 3 and this season to date it's 2. I think it might have been 4 in 2018/19 but then we attacked more- but some sides do seem to get quite a lot relative to the fairly attacking output but we are not one! Leeds attacked loads over the last two seasons under Bielsa yet didn't get awarded that many all told. Thought the Palmer one today against us was soft. Indeed just checked Transfermarkt and it said we only got 2 in 2018/19- yet our attacking numbers were clearly better than this and last season overall! It's 7 in 2 seasons and 33 games in the League. Haven’t we had 3 pens so far this season? 1 might have been in the FA cup though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Haven’t we had 3 pens so far this season? 1 might have been in the FA cup though? In the FA Cup at Millwall yep, Diedhiou scored it. In the League though, we don't get many but then the amount we create doesn't help. With respect to this and last season. Edited February 27, 2021 by Mr Popodopolous 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted February 27, 2021 Report Share Posted February 27, 2021 2 would have been my guess but whatever it was I imagine it was at least a quarter or a fifth that Preston average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted February 27, 2021 Report Share Posted February 27, 2021 Less than Rovers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarksRobin Posted February 28, 2021 Report Share Posted February 28, 2021 8 hours ago, The Gasbuster said: Less than Rovers. *Fewer* than Rovers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellfire Corner Posted February 28, 2021 Report Share Posted February 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, WarksRobin said: *Fewer* than Rovers Fewer than Rovers*.* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted February 28, 2021 Report Share Posted February 28, 2021 12 minutes ago, WarksRobin said: *Fewer* than Rovers 9 minutes ago, Hellfire Corner said: Fewer than Rovers*.* Very appropriate corrections there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galway Red Posted February 28, 2021 Report Share Posted February 28, 2021 8 hours ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said: 2 would have been my guess but whatever it was I imagine it was at least a quarter or a fifth that Preston average. Rovers and PNE are awarded a minimum of 12 penalties per season. It is wrirren into EFL rules, didn't Man Utd get a crazy amount of penalties last season, something like one every 2.5 games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted February 28, 2021 Admin Report Share Posted February 28, 2021 15 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: It's 7 in 2 seasons and 33 games in the League. And how many have we conceded in that time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted February 28, 2021 Report Share Posted February 28, 2021 Part of this is either naivety or honesty on our part, depending on your point of view. Preston blatantly go looking for penalties as part of their game plan, of the 3 they have had awarded against us up there in the last 2 seasons both Sinclair & Johnson dived without contact to win them, we just don’t do that. We also don’t harangue referees the way say, Ayew does.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted February 28, 2021 Report Share Posted February 28, 2021 We need to get more players in the box more regularly to earn penalties but we certainly have a history of not being nasty enough and gamesmanship is not part of our general make-up. Most seasons will see us close to the top of any fair play league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted March 1, 2021 Report Share Posted March 1, 2021 Poor old OGS moaning this morning that Man Utd wern't given a penalty yesterday because of what people are saying about the club's ability to "win" penalties! I'd feel more sorry for him if he questioned the correctness of some of the penalties that they've been awarded! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red white and red Posted March 1, 2021 Report Share Posted March 1, 2021 Considering we have spent about 3 minutes in the opposition half, over the past 30+ games... not many! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted March 1, 2021 Report Share Posted March 1, 2021 League: This season 2. Last season 3. Season before 2. (Rovers in that time 5,7 and 7 respectively). Average number of pens per game is between 0.2 and 0.25. My maths aren't great, but I reckon that means that on average a team could expect 4-5 each season - so we're well below average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 Not so much looking on the history but this season in isolation. Rolling count in the League now 2 penalties to us this season, 5 against. As I've said before and elsewhere, we don't create much but it feels a bit on the low side still? Surely if Coventry's vs us was one, then one (Semenyo?) turned down v Nottingham Forest also was. Or neither were but it's 2-5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsofclay Posted April 18, 2021 Report Share Posted April 18, 2021 I also think it is unfair that the penalty kick was first introduced in 1891. Our club was formed in 1894 so there are quite a few clubs out there who have had three years extra practice. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted April 18, 2021 Report Share Posted April 18, 2021 18 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Not so much looking on the history but this season in isolation. Rolling count in the League now 2 penalties to us this season, 5 against. As I've said before and elsewhere, we don't create much but it feels a bit on the low side still? Surely if Coventry's vs us was one, then one (Semenyo?) turned down v Nottingham Forest also was. Or neither were but it's 2-5. Amazingly if you look on Twitter there are still Swansea fans moaning about the one we got against them at home in October when Conor Roberts lost his footing & tripped Semenyo. This coming from a side with a diver like Andre Ayew up front.. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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