View from the Dolman Posted March 2, 2021 Report Share Posted March 2, 2021 Nigel Pearson took part in a coaching webinar today with The Coaches Voice - full replay available with their free trial: A few quotes on their Twitter account including this one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveybadger Posted March 2, 2021 Report Share Posted March 2, 2021 That second comment is very interesting....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted March 3, 2021 Report Share Posted March 3, 2021 11 hours ago, steveybadger said: That second comment is very interesting....... Agreed. Could be a big positive. Perhaps Pearson has the experience and gravitas to manage his relationship with someone like Ashton effectively so we all benefit. Leaves both parties to focus on what they’re good at. Perhaps a happy medium could be to allow Pearson to bring in, or be heavily involved with the recruitment of, a chief scout who’s responsible for player ID. Ashton can continue being the guy who handles the agent side and corporate level tasks including his FA responsibilities. Then ultimately Pearson has final say on transfers and gets to focus on managing the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted March 3, 2021 Report Share Posted March 3, 2021 11 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: Agreed. Could be a big positive. Perhaps Pearson has the experience and gravitas to manage his relationship with someone like Ashton effectively so we all benefit. Leaves both parties to focus on what they’re good at. Perhaps a happy medium could be to allow Pearson to bring in, or be heavily involved with the recruitment of, a chief scout who’s responsible for player ID. Ashton can continue being the guy who handles the agent side and corporate level tasks including his FA responsibilities. Then ultimately Pearson has final say on transfers and gets to focus on managing the side. I think that is what may happen, assuming NP wants someone he trusts to do the talent ID aspect. I don’t think any of us have a problem with MA’s remit with negotiating the deal itself, but my big beef is the lack of a recruitment plan / strategy and then adherence to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted March 3, 2021 Report Share Posted March 3, 2021 18 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I think that is what may happen, assuming NP wants someone he trusts to do the talent ID aspect. I don’t think any of us have a problem with MA’s remit with negotiating the deal itself, but my big beef is the lack of a recruitment plan / strategy and then adherence to it. Yeah exactly. I think the general consensus is that MA does have skills in the negotiation of contracts and fees. The issue is how much overspill his remit has into areas where maybe he doesn't have skills/expertise. His influence with the FA is obviously something Lansdown values. I wonder whether part of that idea is having AG as a World Cup or Euro venue at some stage. I know that was SL's ambition with Ashton Vale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Watts Posted March 3, 2021 Report Share Posted March 3, 2021 2 hours ago, Phileas Fogg said: Yeah exactly. I think the general consensus is that MA does have skills in the negotiation of contracts and fees. The issue is how much overspill his remit has into areas where maybe he doesn't have skills/expertise. His influence with the FA is obviously something Lansdown values. I wonder whether part of that idea is having AG as a World Cup or Euro venue at some stage. I know that was SL's ambition with Ashton Vale. Genuine question, but does he actually have any influence with the FA? For years, the relationship between the FA and the FL has seemed to be an uneasy alliance at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted March 3, 2021 Report Share Posted March 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Steve Watts said: Genuine question, but does he actually have any influence with the FA? For years, the relationship between the FA and the FL has seemed to be an uneasy alliance at best. Assume Foggy meant influence with EFL (rather than FA). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted March 3, 2021 Report Share Posted March 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Assume Foggy meant influence with EFL (rather than FA). Yes that’s what I meant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted March 3, 2021 Report Share Posted March 3, 2021 3 hours ago, Phileas Fogg said: Agreed. Could be a big positive. Perhaps Pearson has the experience and gravitas to manage his relationship with someone like Ashton effectively so we all benefit. Leaves both parties to focus on what they’re good at. Perhaps a happy medium could be to allow Pearson to bring in, or be heavily involved with the recruitment of, a chief scout who’s responsible for player ID. Ashton can continue being the guy who handles the agent side and corporate level tasks including his FA responsibilities. Then ultimately Pearson has final say on transfers and gets to focus on managing the side. Exactly this. I said on an earlier thread that NP and MA don't need to like each other, they need to respect each other. Sounds like NP doesn't like agents but knows they are part of football nowadays. He'll be glad to have someone's like MA who seems able to take them in his stride, and if he continues to negotiate successfully then he'll have NPs respect - probably even more so than if NP thought he could do it himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniro Posted March 3, 2021 Report Share Posted March 3, 2021 2 hours ago, Phileas Fogg said: Yeah exactly. I think the general consensus is that MA does have skills in the negotiation of contracts and fees. The issue is how much overspill his remit has into areas where maybe he doesn't have skills/expertise. His influence with the FA is obviously something Lansdown values. I wonder whether part of that idea is having AG as a World Cup or Euro venue at some stage. I know that was SL's ambition with Ashton Vale. The problem I have is that contract negotiation in itself isn't particularly a CEO duty - more of a commercial / legal kind of function. The same with recruitment, which needs much more footballing expertise than MA has. If you're going to have a CEO, that means someone who'd develops and delivers the entire strategic plan and ensures the expertise and resources are in place. We're all happy now, but to me it seems that it needed the owner to seize control of the reins because the CEO's business model and lack of football know-how was steering us off a cliff. The CEO job is all about who has ultimate authority and who is ultimately accountable for performance and the last two months tell us all we need to know about our current job holder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted March 3, 2021 Report Share Posted March 3, 2021 15 hours ago, View from the Dolman said: Nigel Pearson took part in a coaching webinar today with The Coaches Voice - full replay available with their free trial: A few quotes on their Twitter account including this one... As Nigel is pictured wearing chain mail, I'm beginning to understand why we suffer so many training injuries! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted March 3, 2021 Report Share Posted March 3, 2021 I don't blame him not wanting to deal with agents...could see him nutting em. In future interviews if taken on long term, it would be needed to ask what involvement he has in the recruitment of players. It's the biggest discussion on here, as to who made the judgement and requested certain players. Ideally we would have a DoF, a CEO, and head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted March 3, 2021 Report Share Posted March 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Daniro said: The problem I have is that contract negotiation in itself isn't particularly a CEO duty - more of a commercial / legal kind of function. The same with recruitment, which needs much more footballing expertise than MA has. If you're going to have a CEO, that means someone who'd develops and delivers the entire strategic plan and ensures the expertise and resources are in place. We're all happy now, but to me it seems that it needed the owner to seize control of the reins because the CEO's business model and lack of football know-how was steering us off a cliff. The CEO job is all about who has ultimate authority and who is ultimately accountable for performance and the last two months tell us all we need to know about our current job holder. Yep, whole post is nail on head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted March 3, 2021 Report Share Posted March 3, 2021 I bet our Nige loves the word "webinar". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Watts Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 On 03/03/2021 at 12:03, Phileas Fogg said: Yes that’s what I meant Fair enough. I'm not sure what influence that would have with the World Cup bid to be honest though as that would still be FA territory I'd imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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