Superjack Posted March 3, 2021 Report Share Posted March 3, 2021 The closest thing I have seen to Paul Hartley since Paul Hartley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Journalist Posted March 3, 2021 Report Share Posted March 3, 2021 Just now, Superjack said: The closest thing I have seen to Paul Hartley since Paul Hartley. I have him down as a completely different player to Paul Hartley, personally. Pretty much nothing like. Hair aside, I guess. (Unless you're joking?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted March 3, 2021 Report Share Posted March 3, 2021 How anyone had doubts about his ability really is beggars belief, a top quality midfielder and it’s players like Nagy that Pearson will look to build the team around next season in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted March 3, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Journalist said: I have him down as a completely different player to Paul Hartley, personally. Pretty much nothing like. Hair aside, I guess. (Unless you're joking?) Not joking. You just don't agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porto Red Posted March 3, 2021 Report Share Posted March 3, 2021 Don't remember Hartley running around like Nagy, one minute he's mopping up in defence and the next he's the furthest forward attacking player. Hartley more of a sitting pass-picker, surely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted March 3, 2021 Report Share Posted March 3, 2021 Not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted March 3, 2021 Report Share Posted March 3, 2021 Can’t see it to be honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted March 3, 2021 Report Share Posted March 3, 2021 13 minutes ago, bris red said: How anyone had doubts about his ability really is beggars belief, a top quality midfielder and it’s players like Nagy that Pearson will look to build the team around next season in my opinion. To be fair, he has been below par in quite a few games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveF Posted March 3, 2021 Report Share Posted March 3, 2021 19 minutes ago, Superjack said: The closest thing I have seen to Paul Hartley since Paul Hartley. What a bizarre shout, they are nothing alike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted March 3, 2021 Report Share Posted March 3, 2021 Nagy reminds me more of Marvin Elliott. All over the pitch, great engine. Hartley didn't have legs so nothing like Nagy, terrific passer of the ball was PH mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Street red Posted March 3, 2021 Report Share Posted March 3, 2021 25 minutes ago, Superjack said: The closest thing I have seen to Paul Hartley since Paul Hartley. Think Nagy touch sometimes lets him down in certain areas of pitch,I agree he's got qualities his short range passing is good also his energy,Just needs to add goals to his game, Hartleys quality of passing and range of passing was steps ahead and he didn't really need those running levels he used to just sit in that midfield and make it tick so In a way a different kind of midfielder. Nagy can only improve with experience,So far at this time Hartley would be the better midfielder of the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 Got the energy of Hartley Hare! Another good game tonight. Definitely more at home in this midfield set-up. Thought he was intelligent in the pressing triggers tonight too. More of this please Adam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globe Trotter Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 I paid particular attention to him last night, a player I really enjoy watching. His awareness and positioning is fantastic, always looking over his shoulder checking for a threat and looking for space. He’s got a fantastic engine on him too, he must be up there with distance covered per game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 People will know I’ve been critical of Nagy last season but he’s turned it around for me this season and done very well. But I thought last night was his worst game this season. Yes, the energy, running, chasing etc was all still there, but his awareness on the ball and his use of the ball was awful last night. And he was also very weak in a number of tackles too. Not his usual performance, and I actually thought that was back to the Nagy I used to criticise last season. Not having a pop at him, as I say, he’s actually turned my opinion around on him, but I can’t pretend that was a good performance from his last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampshire Red Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 i see no resemblence with Hartley and cant believe we have Harry, on this forum, namely someone prepared to change their mind positively; well done Harry and i also agree with your comments. For me Nagy has been in a midfield without the experience around him of our opposition. It may be he improves further as Bako gets better or if W.W.W - (Walsh, Williams, Weimann) - return fit next season. I loved Hartley but he had no 'legs'/engine so see the two as completley different players. I also though Marv was a great player for us over the years but he had seveal spells of mediocty when recovering his fitness which i believe is how Nagy was forced to play (due to lack of options) under Dean Holden. Exciting to see which of our 8 midfielders, NP wishes to 'build the team' around, if any. He may rather decide to build round the spine (Bents, Kalas, Nagy, Fam) or around a formation - too mumerous these days to list them all. One thing NP cant complain about is lack of options Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 17 minutes ago, Harry said: People will know I’ve been critical of Nagy last season but he’s turned it around for me this season and done very well. But I thought last night was his worst game this season. Yes, the energy, running, chasing etc was all still there, but his awareness on the ball and his use of the ball was awful last night. And he was also very weak in a number of tackles too. Not his usual performance, and I actually thought that was back to the Nagy I used to criticise last season. Not having a pop at him, as I say, he’s actually turned my opinion around on him, but I can’t pretend that was a good performance from his last night. Glad I’m not the only one who thought he was below par last night. Some of his first touches were poor and passes were pretty wasteful I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 Nagy is class if used correctly . I like the set up of our midfield three Palmer , Nagy and Bakinson is an exciting combination and can only get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 Also he is a completely different player to Hartley? We had Tyreeq being compared with Marvin Elliot the other day... I’m not sure what’s worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 I thought Nagy was a bit hit and miss and it was Bakinson who really impressed me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 8 hours ago, Selred said: Nagy reminds me more of Marvin Elliott. All over the pitch, great engine. Hartley didn't have legs so nothing like Nagy, terrific passer of the ball was PH mind. Errr...he's far more creative, Elliott was a destroyer and midfield powerhouse, Nagy is more a link up player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Harry said: People will know I’ve been critical of Nagy last season but he’s turned it around for me this season and done very well. But I thought last night was his worst game this season. Yes, the energy, running, chasing etc was all still there, but his awareness on the ball and his use of the ball was awful last night. And he was also very weak in a number of tackles too. Not his usual performance, and I actually thought that was back to the Nagy I used to criticise last season. Not having a pop at him, as I say, he’s actually turned my opinion around on him, but I can’t pretend that was a good performance from his last night. I thought he was pretty decent last night, but on reflection, it’s probably another performance where when we are playing a better spell he looked better, and when we struggled (first 20, last 20) then so did Nagy. I liked the good things again, but the standing off of challenges does my head in. There was one instance where he had two chances with a couple of seconds of each other, and he pulled out of both. I think he suits the current system, which is good....but I’d like him to sometimes be the one who stands out in an average team performance. Bakinson was good last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SedRA Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I thought he was pretty decent last night, but on reflection, it’s probably another performance where when we are playing a better spell he looked better, and when we struggled (first 20, last 20) then so did Nagy. I liked the good things again, but the standing off of challenges does my head in. There was one instance where he had two chances with a couple of seconds of each other, and he pulled out of both. I think he suits the current system, which is good....but I’d like him to sometimes be the one who stands out in an average team performance. Bakinson was good last night. Thought T looked quality further up the pitch. Seems to have quite a natural instinct to get into the box and break the lines, which I didn’t expect. Also some lovely bits of close control in tight spaces, alongside his usual incisive passing. Would be keen to see him played more there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 I felt, once again, Nagy worked well when the system worked well but, once Vyner moved to right back, the midfield balance was not quite right and Nagy struggled as a result of that. I think, in general, he is a tactical player. He executes a gameplan very well but, if there is an enforced change to the gameplan through injury - as last night - he doesn’t do so well when forced to improvise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Rollason Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 11 hours ago, Superjack said: The closest thing I have seen to Paul Hartley since Paul Hartley. I loved Hartley, as we all did. great footballer. More of a Pirlo. the ball came to him. can't imagine either of them playing as Adam does tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 1 hour ago, JonDolman said: I was wondering when Pearson came in if he'd look to use Bakinson more advanced. Really looks class there. But I think last night I'd have rather seen Lansbury the most advanced when he came on. Or just don't bring Lansbury on at all. He was a bit of a secret weapon last night going forward and probably hadn't been identified by Bournemouth as a threat. I'm not a fan of Bakinson's tackling (or lack thereof) but I thought he won the ball more often than usual too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 1 hour ago, mozo said: He was a bit of a secret weapon last night going forward and probably hadn't been identified by Bournemouth as a threat. I'm not a fan of Bakinson's tackling (or lack thereof) but I thought he won the ball more often than usual too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 4 hours ago, Davefevs said: I thought he was pretty decent last night, but on reflection, it’s probably another performance where when we are playing a better spell he looked better, and when we struggled (first 20, last 20) then so did Nagy. I liked the good things again, but the standing off of challenges does my head in. There was one instance where he had two chances with a couple of seconds of each other, and he pulled out of both. I think he suits the current system, which is good....but I’d like him to sometimes be the one who stands out in an average team performance. Bakinson was good last night. Yep. There was some standing off, but also a couple of challenges where he was very weak and was easily outmuscled. It wasn’t just that though. His first touch was generally very very poor last night. But more frustratingly for me was his use of the ball. Some of his passes were very slow, which enabled the opposition to close the recipient quicker. He needs to ping them in quicker, give the recipient a chance to receive the ball before he’s closed down. Lots of his easy, 5-10 yard passes, which should have easily retained possession, turned into almost 60/40’s. There were also a few times where he didn’t seem in tandem with the rest of the team in terms of intent. Some passages of play where we managed to keep possession well and start to move the opposite around, when the ball got to Nagy and it was crying out for him to continue the phase, with good options either inside or infront of him, his first thought was to turn away and pass it back to Kalas. It stifled what we were building into promising moves and put us back to square 1. There was no confidence or conviction in his passing. I call it ‘going through the motions’ passing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Harry said: Yep. There was some standing off, but also a couple of challenges where he was very weak and was easily outmuscled. It wasn’t just that though. His first touch was generally very very poor last night. But more frustratingly for me was his use of the ball. Some of his passes were very slow, which enabled the opposition to close the recipient quicker. He needs to ping them in quicker, give the recipient a chance to receive the ball before he’s closed down. Lots of his easy, 5-10 yard passes, which should have easily retained possession, turned into almost 60/40’s. There were also a few times where he didn’t seem in tandem with the rest of the team in terms of intent. Some passages of play where we managed to keep possession well and start to move the opposite around, when the ball got to Nagy and it was crying out for him to continue the phase, with good options either inside or infront of him, his first thought was to turn away and pass it back to Kalas. It stifled what we were building into promising moves and put us back to square 1. There was no confidence or conviction in his passing. I call it ‘going through the motions’ passing. For info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megansdad Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 Thought Bakinson was excellent but looked like he was exhausted from about 75minutes and was expecting to see him substituted. Not a criticism of him more an observation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 Saw a side from him I hadn’t spotted before . Leadership ! He berated his colleagues a few times in the first 20 mins gee-ing them up and trying to speed the game up . Love Kalas but as Captain he’s just not vocal enough on the pitch . Nagy as a future Captain perhaps and midfield is always in my view the best position to lead a team from ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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