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Sorry about this but, it has to be said. People are defending Dan Bentley and stating that he's well in credit for the amount of times he's saved us this term and, he does deserve credit for those saves. People have also taken the time to try and explain how our defensive set up is sorted out on the training ground and that, the heat of the moment is also catered for on the training ground and that Bentley is responding to the coaches directives.

We also agree that keepers, like all players make mistakes. What I have witnessed today and since he has been here, are not mistakes, they are weaknesses in his decision making, coupled with the strength, desire and commitment to actually claim the ball in dangerous areas, that he should be more than capable of. This is not a new thing, it has been happening for a long period of time, with crosses flashing across goal and the ball in areas for him to claim but, not doing so, usually down to indecision on his part and not predetermined on the training ground. That today from our keeper, was as weak as I can remember.

Goalkeeping is a specialist part of the team, a part I have followed with great interest for over fifty years, having played the role myself, all be it in a lower standard than this. However, the basics are the same now as they were in my playing days. Keep the ball out of the net, claim whatever you can, get your angles right, be decisive and organise/assist your defenders, this last part is vitally important and makes a difference in the amount of times that saves from shots/headers are actually required.  We have a keeper who fails in parts of those basic requirements and if this manager stays, I think we'll be accepting any decent offer for Bentley and, acquiring a new keeper.

I'm going to put my crash helmet on now, because I have dared to criticise one of our best players. I'd argue that if you can take the plaudits, then you must also be open to criticism.

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9 minutes ago, Rich said:

Sorry about this but, it has to be said. People are defending Dan Bentley and stating that he's well in credit for the amount of times he's saved us this term and, he does deserve credit for those saves. People have also taken the time to try and explain how our defensive set up is sorted out on the training ground and that, the heat of the moment is also catered for on the training ground and that Bentley is responding to the coaches directives.

We also agree that keepers, like all players make mistakes. What I have witnessed today and since he has been here, are not mistakes, they are weaknesses in his decision making, coupled with the strength, desire and commitment to actually claim the ball in dangerous areas, that he should be more than capable of. This is not a new thing, it has been happening for a long period of time, with crosses flashing across goal and the ball in areas for him to claim but, not doing so, usually down to indecision on his part and not predetermined on the training ground. That today from our keeper, was as weak as I can remember.

Goalkeeping is a specialist part of the team, a part I have followed with great interest for over fifty years, having played the role myself, all be it in a lower standard than this. However, the basics are the same now as they were in my playing days. Keep the ball out of the net, claim whatever you can, get your angles right, be decisive and organise/assist your defenders, this last part is vitally important and makes a difference in the amount of times that saves from shots/headers are actually required.  We have a keeper who fails in parts of those basic requirements and if this manager stays, I think we'll be accepting any decent offer for Bentley and, acquiring a new keeper.

I'm going to put my crash helmet on now, because I have dared to criticise one of our best players. I'd argue that if you can take the plaudits, then you must also be open to criticism.

No need for the crash helmet with this poster. Completely agree.

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10 minutes ago, Rich said:

Sorry about this but, it has to be said. People are defending Dan Bentley and stating that he's well in credit for the amount of times he's saved us this term and, he does deserve credit for those saves. People have also taken the time to try and explain how our defensive set up is sorted out on the training ground and that, the heat of the moment is also catered for on the training ground and that Bentley is responding to the coaches directives.

We also agree that keepers, like all players make mistakes. What I have witnessed today and since he has been here, are not mistakes, they are weaknesses in his decision making, coupled with the strength, desire and commitment to actually claim the ball in dangerous areas, that he should be more than capable of. This is not a new thing, it has been happening for a long period of time, with crosses flashing across goal and the ball in areas for him to claim but, not doing so, usually down to indecision on his part and not predetermined on the training ground. That today from our keeper, was as weak as I can remember.

Goalkeeping is a specialist part of the team, a part I have followed with great interest for over fifty years, having played the role myself, all be it in a lower standard than this. However, the basics are the same now as they were in my playing days. Keep the ball out of the net, claim whatever you can, get your angles right, be decisive and organise/assist your defenders, this last part is vitally important and makes a difference in the amount of times that saves from shots/headers are actually required.  We have a keeper who fails in parts of those basic requirements and if this manager stays, I think we'll be accepting any decent offer for Bentley and, acquiring a new keeper.

I'm going to put my crash helmet on now, because I have dared to criticise one of our best players. I'd argue that if you can take the plaudits, then you must also be open to criticism.

If Bentley left, we don't need to buy another keeper, Max is a ready made replacement 

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7 minutes ago, Rich said:

Sorry about this but, it has to be said. People are defending Dan Bentley and stating that he's well in credit for the amount of times he's saved us this term and, he does deserve credit for those saves. People have also taken the time to try and explain how our defensive set up is sorted out on the training ground and that, the heat of the moment is also catered for on the training ground and that Bentley is responding to the coaches directives.

We also agree that keepers, like all players make mistakes. What I have witnessed today and since he has been here, are not mistakes, they are weaknesses in his decision making, coupled with the strength, desire and commitment to actually claim the ball in dangerous areas, that he should be more than capable of. This is not a new thing, it has been happening for a long period of time, with crosses flashing across goal and the ball in areas for him to claim but, not doing so, usually down to indecision on his part and not predetermined on the training ground. That today from our keeper, was as weak as I can remember.

Goalkeeping is a specialist part of the team, a part I have followed with great interest for over fifty years, having played the role myself, all be it in a lower standard than this. However, the basics are the same now as they were in my playing days. Keep the ball out of the net, claim whatever you can, get your angles right, be decisive and organise/assist your defenders, this last part is vitally important and makes a difference in the amount of times that saves from shots/headers are actually required.  We have a keeper who fails in parts of those basic requirements and if this manager stays, I think we'll be accepting any decent offer for Bentley and, acquiring a new keeper.

I'm going to put my crash helmet on now, because I have dared to criticise one of our best players. I'd argue that if you can take the plaudits, then you must also be open to criticism.

Two poor mistakes from Bents today cost us dearly and exposed yet again his weakness in dealing with crosses but this is a shortcoming which can be rectified with coaching. I certainly wouldn’t want us to throw the baby out with the bath water. 

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I don't know why OTIB has it in for our keepers. Bents has done well to evade criticism for so long, Frankie took loads of stick on here plus any other keepers we've had on loan etc.. Everything is ok until the keeper makes a mistake or two. Why can't people understand all keepers make mistakes, even the top ones in the Prem so it's not reasonable to expect BCFC to get a keeper who's perfect.

Regarding today's first goal I don't think that would have happened if Kalas had still been on the pitch, we were left exposed and Bents had to make a decision in a fraction of a second. He probably took the wrong option but shouldn't have been put in that situation by our defenders in the first place. Also normally when he comes out like that Kalas covers him on the line, but nobody else did in his absence today so it was only partly his fault, and I can't see us getting a better keeper from anywhere else.

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12 minutes ago, Three Lions said:

Due a bad one been the difference between points and humiliations this season. if had not been in the form of his life City would be fighting v relegation.

I'd agree, but be it as a result of illness or confidence his decision making and assertiveness was missing today, O'Leary did nothing wrong last week, so can't see the need to rush him back. Both goals down to the keeper I'm afraid.

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39 minutes ago, Rich said:

Sorry about this but, it has to be said. People are defending Dan Bentley and stating that he's well in credit for the amount of times he's saved us this term and, he does deserve credit for those saves. People have also taken the time to try and explain how our defensive set up is sorted out on the training ground and that, the heat of the moment is also catered for on the training ground and that Bentley is responding to the coaches directives.

We also agree that keepers, like all players make mistakes. What I have witnessed today and since he has been here, are not mistakes, they are weaknesses in his decision making, coupled with the strength, desire and commitment to actually claim the ball in dangerous areas, that he should be more than capable of. This is not a new thing, it has been happening for a long period of time, with crosses flashing across goal and the ball in areas for him to claim but, not doing so, usually down to indecision on his part and not predetermined on the training ground. That today from our keeper, was as weak as I can remember.

Goalkeeping is a specialist part of the team, a part I have followed with great interest for over fifty years, having played the role myself, all be it in a lower standard than this. However, the basics are the same now as they were in my playing days. Keep the ball out of the net, claim whatever you can, get your angles right, be decisive and organise/assist your defenders, this last part is vitally important and makes a difference in the amount of times that saves from shots/headers are actually required.  We have a keeper who fails in parts of those basic requirements and if this manager stays, I think we'll be accepting any decent offer for Bentley and, acquiring a new keeper.

I'm going to put my crash helmet on now, because I have dared to criticise one of our best players. I'd argue that if you can take the plaudits, then you must also be open to criticism.

And I'd argue that if you wait until he makes a mistake in a season of prior excellence to start a thread "constructively" criticising him, then wait and bump it with relish when he makes another one, it smacks of an agenda.

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When Bentley has to react quickly his reflexes are superb, as evidenced by the save he made right before the second goal. He’s good at a one on one and he distributes the ball quickly and effectively.  But when he has time to think about what he should do, particularly with crosses, he’s poor. Another reoccurring issue is he has a tendency to parry a save back into a dangerous area. 
Though to be honest, if he didn’t have some flaws in his game he wouldn’t be playing for us. 

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2 hours ago, ashton_fan said:

Regarding today's first goal I don't think that would have happened if Kalas had still been on the pitch, we were left exposed and Bents had to make a decision in a fraction of a second. He probably took the wrong option but shouldn't have been put in that situation by our defenders in the first place. Also normally when he comes out like that Kalas covers him on the line, but nobody else did in his absence today so it was only partly his fault, and I can't see us getting a better keeper from anywhere else.

Sorry but the only way their striker is scoring from there is if Bentley does what he did and come 12 yards off his line to try (and fail) to get the ball. No danger at all. 
That is totally Bentleys fault, nobody else’s. 

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3 hours ago, ashton_fan said:

I don't know why OTIB has it in for our keepers. Bents has done well to evade criticism for so long, Frankie took loads of stick on here plus any other keepers we've had on loan etc.. Everything is ok until the keeper makes a mistake or two. Why can't people understand all keepers make mistakes, even the top ones in the Prem so it's not reasonable to expect BCFC to get a keeper who's perfect.

Regarding today's first goal I don't think that would have happened if Kalas had still been on the pitch, we were left exposed and Bents had to make a decision in a fraction of a second. He probably took the wrong option but shouldn't have been put in that situation by our defenders in the first place. Also normally when he comes out like that Kalas covers him on the line, but nobody else did in his absence today so it was only partly his fault, and I can't see us getting a better keeper from anywhere else.

Frankie Fielding is unfortunately one of the reasons we never made it to the prem - never ever good enough for a promotion chasing side.

2 hours ago, Dredd said:

When Bentley has to react quickly his reflexes are superb, as evidenced by the save he made right before the second goal. He’s good at a one on one and he distributes the ball quickly and effectively.  But when he has time to think about what he should do, particularly with crosses, he’s poor. Another reoccurring issue is he has a tendency to parry a save back into a dangerous area. 
Though to be honest, if he didn’t have some flaws in his game he wouldn’t be playing for us. 

this is why he is a solid champ keeeper and nothing more.

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1 minute ago, Chrisbc said:

Frankie Fielding is unfortunately one of the reasons we never made it to the prem - never ever good enough for a promotion chasing side.

this is why he is a solid champ keeeper and nothing more.

Just a reminder ... Frankie was our keeper when we won the League One title

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Always felt Niki Maenpaa was the most assured keeper we have had for a long time.  Calm, good height, great positional sense that mean he could make what would be difficult saves look comfortable. Still has two or three more years as a keeper so it was a pity he was injury prone.

No denying Bentley has made some spectacular saves and was excellent earlier in the season.  All keepers will make mistakes but it's the tendency to go on a run of mistakes that is the issue.  There was a reason he was moved on by Brentford and Bentley seems a confidence player who always has one stage in the season when he will make a run of mistakes when that confidence is lost.  I don't think sides aiming to push for promotion can have a keeper who is prone to that.   It's harsh but I'd sell for any offers over 3m and get a solid Maenpaa type of keeper to compete with Max. 

I'd like to see Max given a run of games until the end of the season.  He can do the same reaction saves as DB and deserves his chance.

 

 

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4 hours ago, Rich said:

Sorry about this but, it has to be said. People are defending Dan Bentley and stating that he's well in credit for the amount of times he's saved us this term and, he does deserve credit for those saves. People have also taken the time to try and explain how our defensive set up is sorted out on the training ground and that, the heat of the moment is also catered for on the training ground and that Bentley is responding to the coaches directives.

We also agree that keepers, like all players make mistakes. What I have witnessed today and since he has been here, are not mistakes, they are weaknesses in his decision making, coupled with the strength, desire and commitment to actually claim the ball in dangerous areas, that he should be more than capable of. This is not a new thing, it has been happening for a long period of time, with crosses flashing across goal and the ball in areas for him to claim but, not doing so, usually down to indecision on his part and not predetermined on the training ground. That today from our keeper, was as weak as I can remember.

Goalkeeping is a specialist part of the team, a part I have followed with great interest for over fifty years, having played the role myself, all be it in a lower standard than this. However, the basics are the same now as they were in my playing days. Keep the ball out of the net, claim whatever you can, get your angles right, be decisive and organise/assist your defenders, this last part is vitally important and makes a difference in the amount of times that saves from shots/headers are actually required.  We have a keeper who fails in parts of those basic requirements and if this manager stays, I think we'll be accepting any decent offer for Bentley and, acquiring a new keeper.

I'm going to put my crash helmet on now, because I have dared to criticise one of our best players. I'd argue that if you can take the plaudits, then you must also be open to criticism.

Well constructed post Rich ??????.

No need for crash helmet.

Bentley has had a good season....⬇️⬇️⬇️

1 hour ago, JonDolman said:

His early season form was so much better in his dealing with crosses. Actually looked really assured coming for balls. Confidently making the right decision every time.

Just been a bit more like last season for a while now in dealing with crosses. Hopefully can get back to more like the early season form.

....I felt until the new year he had managed to keep good distances between him and his defence, but of late has allowed them to retreat on set pieces.

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15 hours ago, Northern Red said:

And I'd argue that if you wait until he makes a mistake in a season of prior excellence to start a thread "constructively" criticising him, then wait and bump it with relish when he makes another one, it smacks of an agenda.

If you think I have an agenda, then you are mistaken.

I have made a personnel assessment of of Bentley over a period of time, with the conclusions varying during that period of time until, I was able and happy with my conclusion. It was posted at a time to highlight what problems I thought existed in his game. My original post highlighted a list of positives and what I considered to be areas that he could improve on after a game where those problems were evident to me. The fact that those problems emerged in another game shortly after, sadden me to a degree but they made my points more topical. I would much prefer that opportunity to have not happened and we were sat here reading about how we'd beaten a bottom three club in dire straits that have completed a double over us.

To say that I waited to bump the post with "relish" is totally inaccurate. My personal circumstances mean that I have limited time to make a post, so must grab the opportunity when it arises. I do not have this app on my phone, to make sure I do not spend my life quoting on this site. So, I must wait until I have time and my PC is available to me.

So to say I have an agenda is way off the mark and just a lazy attack on the poster by yourself, instead of addressing any of the points in the post.

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25 minutes ago, Rich said:

If you think I have an agenda, then you are mistaken.

I have made a personnel assessment of of Bentley over a period of time, with the conclusions varying during that period of time until, I was able and happy with my conclusion. It was posted at a time to highlight what problems I thought existed in his game. My original post highlighted a list of positives and what I considered to be areas that he could improve on after a game where those problems were evident to me. The fact that those problems emerged in another game shortly after, sadden me to a degree but they made my points more topical. I would much prefer that opportunity to have not happened and we were sat here reading about how we'd beaten a bottom three club in dire straits that have completed a double over us.

To say that I waited to bump the post with "relish" is totally inaccurate. My personal circumstances mean that I have limited time to make a post, so must grab the opportunity when it arises. I do not have this app on my phone, to make sure I do not spend my life quoting on this site. So, I must wait until I have time and my PC is available to me.

So to say I have an agenda is way off the mark and just a lazy attack on the poster by yourself, instead of addressing any of the points in the post.

In your opening post you wanted him to come for crosses. He does this and? Its his worst performance of the season. Where is the improvement? The outcome going in to traffic second goal was utterly predictable. 

When he stayed on his line? Great save. Like the ones has has been making all season. Great saves leading to Bentley being a A grade all seasons in a team of non A's. Without Bentley this season Bristol City could be in a challenging position towards the bottom. His form staying and not coming for crosses was superb.

Personally I would prefer him to stay on his line and then improvement by playing higher is made gradually and linearly as the teams defensive shape evolves. That is a collective improvement that does not necessitate sudden change, humans don't react well to episodic change i.e. sudden alteration, we perform better through periodized methodical changes that are planned.

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6 hours ago, Cowshed said:

In your opening post you wanted him to come for crosses. He does this and? Its his worst performance of the season. Where is the improvement? The outcome going in to traffic second goal was utterly predictable. 

When he stayed on his line? Great save. Like the ones has has been making all season. Great saves leading to Bentley being a A grade all seasons in a team of non A's. Without Bentley this season Bristol City could be in a challenging position towards the bottom. His form staying and not coming for crosses was superb.

Personally I would prefer him to stay on his line and then improvement by playing higher is made gradually and linearly as the teams defensive shape evolves. That is a collective improvement that does not necessitate sudden change, humans don't react well to episodic change i.e. sudden alteration, we perform better through periodized methodical changes that are planned.

Are you really serious with your first paragraph? Let me reiterate, I do want him to come for crosses but, when he comes, I want him to be dominant and get to the cross before the attacker. I don't want him to nearly come for crosses, or nearly get there.

Both goals came from his indecisiveness, they were both in areas where he should have got there before the attacker, his indecisiveness has given the attacker the extra split second needed to get there first. 

I don't agree with your last statement about episodic change, I had to look that one up. There are many situations where spontaneous change is required and, some people, sportsmen as well are good at it and thrive. You cannot tell me that every occasion within a game of football is preplanned. If that were the case, there'd be no place for the player that does something different. Throughout life there are people that understand plans and will stick to those plans, there are others that thrive in adversity or diversity. 

We have a keeper that is competent/good in many areas but, when pressurised by crosses delivered by the opposition, into danger areas, he prefers usually, to stay on his line. Those crosses which led to goals yesterday should have been dealt with by the keeper, they weren't. If he weren't hesitant in those situations, the opposition would not target those areas, they see a weakness and try to exploit it. It's no coincidence that we struggle against teams that have biggish strikers and that deliver a ball into the area where it can be exploited by those strikers. Hopefully he'll be working on that part of his game in the future to improve it, which is all I would expect him to do.

Basso is a good example of a keeper that was dominant in his area, he wasn't brilliant but, he offered confidence to the defence by coming for crosses, some that he shouldn't have, which sometimes resulted in him missing them completely but, by coming for them, he also put off the attacker and frequently got away with the odd mistake.

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32 minutes ago, Rich said:

Are you really serious with your first paragraph? Let me reiterate, I do want him to come for crosses but, when he comes, I want him to be dominant and get to the cross before the attacker. I don't want him to nearly come for crosses, or nearly get there.

Both goals came from his indecisiveness, they were both in areas where he should have got there before the attacker, his indecisiveness has given the attacker the extra split second needed to get there first. 

I don't agree with your last statement about episodic change, I had to look that one up. There are many situations where spontaneous change is required and, some people, sportsmen as well are good at it and thrive. You cannot tell me that every occasion within a game of football is preplanned. If that were the case, there'd be no place for the player that does something different. Throughout life there are people that understand plans and will stick to those plans, there are others that thrive in adversity or diversity. 

We have a keeper that is competent/good in many areas but, when pressurised by crosses delivered by the opposition, into danger areas, he prefers usually, to stay on his line. Those crosses which led to goals yesterday should have been dealt with by the keeper, they weren't. If he weren't hesitant in those situations, the opposition would not target those areas, they see a weakness and try to exploit it. It's no coincidence that we struggle against teams that have biggish strikers and that deliver a ball into the area where it can be exploited by those strikers. Hopefully he'll be working on that part of his game in the future to improve it, which is all I would expect him to do.

Basso is a good example of a keeper that was dominant in his area, he wasn't brilliant but, he offered confidence to the defence by coming for crosses, some that he shouldn't have, which sometimes resulted in him missing them completely but, by coming for them, he also put off the attacker and frequently got away with the odd mistake.

Yes was the answer. 

Both goals came from attempts to command the box. Your desire. Both were poor decisions. Stays at home no goals are conceded. 

The point about episodic change is coaching method. Football players are not robots. Periodized change creates deeper learning. Spontaneous change creates uncertainty. Players through repetition of task should make decisions very quickly because they understand the pictures in front of them and their associated responses. Keepers that suddenly alter how they play, expect that to go badly if that change is not integrated thoroughly into training. 

You cannot tell me that every occasion within a game of football is preplanned .. Much is and that is what training preparation is - Constantly attempting to cover the elements of play. Changing approaches creates more complexity. A team should understand its responses and roles to elements of play. The team should know if Bentley is coming or not. Bentley should know what his responses are and when, and on the first he doesn't even get close to the ball = What are you doing. That doing must be trained in with defensive units. Whose zone is whose ..  

Adversity in football, its mental challenges, its physical should be part of training. Creating stressed situations, the chaotic should be part of training. 

Luck is when preparation meets opportunity.  Bad luck (poor play) is earned and predictable. Yesterdays was.

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3 minutes ago, Cowshed said:

Yes was the answer. 

Both goals came from attempts to command the box. Your desire. Both were poor decisions. Stays at home no goals are conceded. 

The point about episodic change is coaching method. Football players are not robots. Periodized change creates deeper learning. Spontaneous change creates uncertainty. Players through repetition of task should make decisions very quickly because they understand the pictures in front of them and their associated responses. Keepers that suddenly alter how they play, expect that to go badly if that change is not integrated thoroughly into training. 

You cannot tell me that every occasion within a game of football is preplanned .. Much is and that is what training preparation is - Constantly attempting to cover the elements of play. Changing approaches creates more complexity. A team should understand its responses and roles to elements of play. The team should know if Bentley is coming or not. Bentley should know what his responses are and when, and on the first he doesn't even get close to the ball = What are you doing. That doing must be trained in with defensive units. Whose zone is whose ..  

Adversity in football, its mental challenges, its physical should be part of training. Creating stressed situations, the chaotic should be part of training. 

Luck is when preparation meets opportunity.  Bad luck (poor play) is earned and predictable. Yesterdays was.

I think you misunderstand my explanation. I want him to train and improve that area of his game, I've stated this several times. I don't just want him to do something which isn't possible or hasn't been tried before. He's a big lad and quite nimble on his feet, he should be training for those situations where he needs to come and claim the ball. Some keepers, this comes naturally to them, sadly not ours. If it means hour after hour of repetitive training to improve that side of his game, then so be it.

You state, " Bad luck (poor play) is earned and predictable. Yesterdays was". Completely agree, reason? Because he has a weakness in coming and getting crosses. If he didn't have that problem, he would have caught the first one and punched the 2nd, he did neither. On both occasions our defenders were beaten as well, by the attackers.

To enable us to stop this recurring, something has to be done. Our defenders I would argue can do no more due to their inability to compete with usually bigger opposition players. So the only other option in my opinion, would be to get the chap that is the biggest, who also happens to be quite mobile, is able to have an advantage by using his hands and arms, (2ft) higher than an equal sized player, to eradicate the problem by using those advantages. It would appear from your statements that you are happy for our defenders to get beaten in the air on a regular basis and, for Bentley to save the resultant header, should it be close enough to him.

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On 20/03/2021 at 18:19, Three Lions said:

Due a bad one been the difference between points and humiliations this season. if had not been in the form of his life City would be fighting v relegation.

If he commanded his box better, we could have had more points and still have a chance of top 6...

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23 minutes ago, Bodiesaffer said:

If he commanded his box better, we could have had more points and still have a chance of top 6...

With respect, we could have been playing two goalkeepers and still not stood a snowball in hell's chance of reaching the P/Os

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11 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said:

With respect, we could have been playing two goalkeepers and still not stood a snowball in hell's chance of reaching the P/Os

A commanding Keeper not only collects the ball on crosses he controls his defence, a good one see things developing and relays that Information to his defenders.  He has saved us on many occasion but he’s also cost too.  A great shot stopper he is, commanding he isn’t.  That’s the area Dan needs to improve on if we are to move forward.  He’s an important part of the wheel that also needs to improve.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Bodiesaffer said:

A commanding Keeper not only collects the ball on crosses he controls his defence, a good one see things developing and relays that Information to his defenders.  He has saved us on many occasion but he’s also cost too.  A great shot stopper he is, commanding he isn’t.  That’s the area Dan needs to improve on if we are to move forward.  He’s an important part of the wheel that also needs to improve.

 

 

If you think that Dan Bentley is the reason we aren't challenging for the play-offs, I seriously think you need your head tested.

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13 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said:

If you think that Dan Bentley is the reason we aren't challenging for the play-offs, I seriously think you need your head tested.

That was rude and I apologise for that bit. But Dan Bentley has been largely very good this season and I found what you said really harsh. We have NEVER been P/O material all season long in truth.

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