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1 hour ago, RalphMilnesLeftFoot said:

Very not happy with this signing, even less happy with 'fans' etc haranguing someone who's been DV'd as well. 

Utterly disgusted to be honest. Yes, I get rehabilitation and all that but at 34 and hardly any games for ages, as well as the bad press that it brings. Not sure I can support the team if he plays. 

 

Simpson has served his punishment, no reason he should keep being punished. On purely footballing terms makes every sense to have a good look at whether he might be a useful addition to the squad over the last 8 games. We all know Hunt needs improving on.

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4 minutes ago, old_eastender said:

Simpson has served his punishment, no reason he should keep being punished. On purely footballing terms makes every sense to have a good look at whether he might be a useful addition to the squad over the last 8 games. We all know Hunt needs improving on.

He's had a very successful football career post dv.

He's not being punished if he's had a successful career. since then. 

At 34, with no club in 2 and a history of DV, just no. 

I'm stating how I feel about it, having been DV'd in multiple relationships and, no, on purely footballing terms it makes no sense either. Jody Morris style signing and he was shocking too. 

Really despondent about this as it happens. 

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When the fun stops, stop. Supporting Danny Simpson, isn't fun for me. I won't get entertainment from cheering on a convicted abuser.

Therefore there's no point in me investing time and money and emotional capital into an entertainment company that no longer entertains.

I will not be following City anymore.

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5 hours ago, CiderHeadDan said:

Unsure on this deal. Not sure what benefit it gives us by signing him, only see potential downside with his convicted allegations.

for me a talented ageing footballer with serious  convictions over his head. If what he has been convicted for is true (which I believe is the case) then I think it’s morally a poor decision. 
 

I trust Nige in his recruitment and some part of me likes that this shows he’s going to get control over signings, but at the same time, I think at what cost? Do we sell integrity for our position? It’s something I don’t know I can agree with. I agree with innocent until proven guilty and he’s been found guiltily so I stick with my principles of not associating with him whatsoever, despite what I think about his girlfriend based on her testimony.

 

the funny thing is Nige could literally employ 11 convicted criminals and if we got to the premiership, 80% of the fan base would be happy. For me, footballs more than just success. It’s about community, leadership, entertainment etc... these traits I value more than so called selling our soul for success 

Great that you value community, leadership and entertainment but not being flippant here, all those things have been sadly lacking during the last couple of years that Lee Johnson was here and ever since.

Nigel took over a very low bar and I accept this signing does nothing to raise it.

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49 minutes ago, old_eastender said:

Simpson has served his punishment, no reason he should keep being punished. On purely footballing terms makes every sense to have a good look at whether he might be a useful addition to the squad over the last 8 games. We all know Hunt needs improving on.

I don't care about his punishment.

I don't want him at our club.

If I did what he did, I would never work in my industry again. And my industry is much bigger than football.

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Is my moral compass way off on this one? The way I see it, he’s done a bad thing - paid for it, that should be it. 

49 minutes ago, Prinny said:

When the fun stops, stop. Supporting Danny Simpson, isn't fun for me. I won't get entertainment from cheering on a convicted abuser.

Therefore there's no point in me investing time and money and emotional capital into an entertainment company that no longer entertains.

I will not be following City anymore.

No more 5am match day threads 😔

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11 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said:

Is my moral compass way off on this one? The way I see it, he’s done a bad thing - paid for it, that should be it. 

No more 5am match day threads 😔

Honestly in my view taking such a morally absolute position on this, to the point of deciding not to follow the club anymore, is baffling. Not only has he served his conviction the woman involved in the incident has literally told the world not to pass judgement on the man he was six years ago and saying how proud she is of him, and how much his daughter has enjoyed training with him recently.

Why some feel the need the play judge, jury and executioner on complex matters as these I will never know. 

I’m finding the liberal left cancel culture ideology is reminiscent of the moral absolutism you find on the front pages of the right wing tabloid newspapers such as the News of the World. It’s based on sweeping moral judgements without knowledge of all of the facts and it’s stopped people from being able to look at each individual on a case by case basis.

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2 minutes ago, pl00peh91 said:

Honestly in my view taking such a morally absolute position on this, to the point of deciding not to follow the club anymore, is baffling. Not only has he served his conviction the woman involved in the incident has literally told the world not to pass judgement on the man he was six years ago and saying how proud she is of him, and how much his daughter has enjoyed training with him recently.

Why some feel the need the play judge, jury and executioner on complex matters as these I will never know. 

I’m finding the liberal left cancel culture ideology is reminiscent of the moral absolutism you find on the front pages of the right wing tabloid newspapers such as the News of the World. It’s based on sweeping moral judgements without knowledge of all of the facts and it’s stopped people from being able to look at each individual on a case by case basis.

I agree. If he was still doing it obviously that’s different but as far as I know he isn’t. He did a terrible thing, paid for it - is eternal punishment necessary?

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28 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said:

Is my moral compass way off on this one? The way I see it, he’s done a bad thing - paid for it, that should be it. 

No more 5am match day threads 😔

Of course you are entitled to your view.

However to me the complete lack of remorse shown at the time is key here. If he hadn’t looked to get out of his pitiful sentence of community service & done something to atone, like make a large donation to Women’s refuge charities (don’t say how do we know he didn’t, it would have been part of the rehabilitation plan in the media if he had), but he tried his best to avoid his punishment.

Secondly I am not denying his right to work I just don’t think he should do for us. He can deliver pizzas if he wants a job.

Finally point, that “cancel culture, lefty” comment by someone else, just **** off.

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Those that say he has served his time so it’s fine, I assume would think the same if we signed a convicted rapist or peadophile who had served their time

Domestic abuse is not a complex issue as some have said. It’s a straightforward one. Don’t beat up your wife/husband/partner 

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After finding out about this, and looking into things more, this really is a troubling signing. It is great to read his ex partner supporting him, and that is the minimum he needed, by it seems dealing with his issues, for her and their child. However, after having an ex junior player locked up for 10 years a few weeks ago for sexual crimes, the name of the club is being talked about for the wrong reasons . This was physical abuse of the mother of his child. At a time when finally some focus is being given to women's safety, equality and protection. We also  have a women's football team. We have players taking the knee, and multiple slogans for anti racism, but I don't see the same commitment for supporting women, and as we are talking physical abuse, the terror goes beyond anything a male can understand. I do accept that someone can make an error, can work and improve themselves. But professional football is a very different scenario to most, as it is in the public eye and players are looked up to as role models for many young people. The club has placed itself in a strange position on this one, and also an unnecessary one. Like others I don't like it. 

Maybe they can take take both knees and make one for Women's lives matter (slightly tongue in cheek but you get the idea)

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13 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Of course you are entitled to your view.

However to me the complete lack of remorse shown at the time is key here. If he hadn’t looked to get out of his pitiful sentence of community service & done something to atone, like make a large donation to Women’s refuge charities (don’t say how do we know he didn’t, it would have been part of the rehabilitation plan in the media if he had), but he tried his best to avoid his punishment.

Secondly I am not denying his right to work I just don’t think he should do for us. He can deliver pizzas if he wants a job.

Finally point, that “cancel culture, lefty” comment by someone else, just **** off.

Good points

12 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

Those that say he has served his time so it’s fine, I assume would think the same if we signed a convicted rapist or peadophile who had served their time

Domestic abuse is not a complex issue as some have said. It’s a straightforward one. Don’t beat up your wife/husband/partner 

I agree with you, I’d argue though that this isn’t as severe a crime as the two you’ve mentioned.. although I don’t really want to go down that rabbit hole.

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Baffled by this one.  Doesn't make any sense at all from any perspective.  Questioning NPs judgement on this to be honest - from a solely footballing perspective we don't need him, we aren't going up and we aren't going down.  From a PR perspective its a flustercuck. There's just no need for it. 

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2 minutes ago, cityloyal473 said:

Baffled by this one.  Doesn't make any sense at all from any perspective.  Questioning NPs judgement on this to be honest - from a solely footballing perspective we don't need him, we aren't going up and we aren't going down.  From a PR perspective its a flustercuck. There's just no need for it. 

My view on this also. One step forward but two steps back kinda feeling. I think NP must’ve really asked for this transfer to happen 🤷‍♂️

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11 hours ago, steveybadger said:

Said this before but I’ll say it again now it’s confirmed; less than 2 weeks ago there was a well publicised mass demonstration against male on female violence. This decision is utterly tone deaf.

Some of the comments on here show why those demonstrations are necessary. 

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1 minute ago, cityloyal473 said:

Baffled by this one.  Doesn't make any sense at all from any perspective.  Questioning NPs judgement on this to be honest - from a solely footballing perspective we don't need him, we aren't going up and we aren't going down.  From a PR perspective its a flustercuck. There's just no need for it. 

Perhaps NP has identified RB as a key to our defensive weaknesses. Might he be looking to see how a ‘solid’ RB affects the overall dynamic of the team? This is a good time to try a few things as we’re  not in danger of playoffs or relegation (barring a total disaster). There’s no-one already here that would allow him to see how this works and the only other option at this point in the season is a free agent. Free agents all come with some sort of ‘downside’ otherwise they would have clubs!!

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1 minute ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said:

If everyone was condemned for all time because of mistakes they have made in the past, there would be an awful lot of people not able to ply their trade.  One can only hope that he has learned lessons and is a better person now.

Indeed, to quote from someone else's post:

"Not only has he served his conviction the woman involved in the incident has literally told the world not to pass judgement on the man he was six years ago and saying how proud she is of him, and how much his daughter has enjoyed training with him recently."

Should we not respect the view of the woman wronged?

 

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4 minutes ago, old_eastender said:

Indeed, to quote from someone else's post:

"Not only has he served his conviction the woman involved in the incident has literally told the world not to pass judgement on the man he was six years ago and saying how proud she is of him, and how much his daughter has enjoyed training with him recently."

Should we not respect the view of the woman wronged?

 

One can respect her view AND not want a convicted wife beater to be signed 

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2 minutes ago, Scrumpylegs said:

What comments are these exactly? The debate on this is all quite well balanced I would say.

It’s the ‘we don’t know the circumstances’ and ‘it’s a complex issue’ comments that I have a problem with. People are quick to say things like this in cases of men beating up women but won’t excuse other crimes.  It gives the indication that it’s not that serious a crime 

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2 hours ago, Prinny said:

When the fun stops, stop. Supporting Danny Simpson, isn't fun for me. I won't get entertainment from cheering on a convicted abuser.

Therefore there's no point in me investing time and money and emotional capital into an entertainment company that no longer entertains.

I will not be following City anymore.

Bye then you attention seeking oddball.

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I’m really uncomfortable about this for all the reasons others have said.

As well as being an abuser he also just seems like a bit of a knob. Turns up at a charity shop to do his community service in a Lamborghini, and then moans about people taking pictures. Gets into very public social media spats with other mouthy footballers.

And slightly worrying that he was part of a Leicester side that made headlines for their off field activities generally, including allegations of racist abuse of sex workers on trip to Thailand. (He wasn’t part of that trip, but only because of his DA case going on at the time)

Which brings me to my other concern that hasn’t really been mentioned; we are very clear as a club that it’s our academy players, our young players, that are our future. I’m not sure that I want them coming through their introduction to first team squads and football being influenced by the idea that successful footballers are like this guy seems to be. We might joke about the whole DNA thing, but it’s not without merit.

Yes, he might be a reformed character. Regretful of what he’s done. But there’s not much evidence of it out there, and would it be hard for him to say?

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