I have to say the truth

[Mihai]

Nigel won't stay and He doesn't have to. We need another relegation in League One to reset again the whole squad. Or a few seasons battling for relegation in Championship. 

Why am I saying that ? Simple..we need to change 80% of our team and that will take at least 2 seasons. I would keep only Kalas, Bentley, Palmer and Dasilva. The rest out, for free even. Just to not waste salary on them.

Even Barnsley has better quality in their whole squad. Isn't only about they being on a nice run and nice spirit that helps, they are better. Our suqad value is somewhere in the bottom 6.

I was naive, thinking that if we spent like even 25 mil. £ on ttanafers, that players has to be quality. No, the entire English football is broken when it comes to the transfer fees. A lot of money paid for regular players that will never deserve to cost that money. I can come with a list :

 

- Massengo 7.2 mil ( do you even think that a good player will leave Monaco for that joke of a money ? They just throw him and have even profit cause of our naive board, he will end up being a league one player soon )

- Kalas too expensive again,  I have seen Romanian footballers going out for cheap and being better, even Chiricheș which came to England for the same amount of money. 

- Wells, ( we just paid for a name, not for quality, he barely scores and he is not even a great dribbler or passer, regular championship player, won't make any difference for any team, in fac he never did just got lucky, he belongs to Bradford )

- Famara ( can not shoot good, can not dribble, can not pass, he can't get past defence, and literally zero vision on the pitch. At least if he could score headers but he missed 9 out of 10 by miles. A 500k player at most and he drags the team backwards every singe game, except lucky goals. He has good stamina and intercepts balls but he could play as a defender then, cause we need goals from him )

- Semenyo ( our future for sure, only if we relegate maybe. He does a lot of mistskes and he literally can't score to save his life. Some pace but how is that helping if he runs and then shoot 15 yards away from the goal. We can't compete for anything with him as a main threat )

- Chris Martin ( good for relegation battle but not more )

- Brunt ( mare some money to keep his son into school and we were stupid enough to pay him for nothing, while he has to retire or play in League two )

There ar a lot of players to review but I won't waste your time with it. Some good players came too, like Kodjia and the best I think it was Eliasson but like usual, we lost them cause we are a small team, we can't pay money and we can't attract quality footballers. Eliasson though was a distrage to let him go. 

 

 

 

[Lrrr]

46 minutes ago, Mihai said:

Massengo 7.2 mil

How is it still perpetuated that we've already paid £7.2m?

[Galley is our king]

No, you don't need relegation to reset. 

Relegation would be disastrous. Mid table is not a disaster.

You need improvement, on and off the pitch.

You also need fans to stop throwing their toys out of the pram 

[Loco Rojo]

We don't need a relegation to reset.  We'll be able to do that in a few games time when a load of the first team leave. 

[Mihai]

It can be but the quality of football is disastrous for almost two years.

[italian dave]

2 minutes ago, Mihai said:

It can be but the quality of football is disastrous for almost two years.

If it takes two years of disastrous quality football, then we should be coming out of it quite soon now!! Thanks....you just cheered me up 

[Mr Popodopolous]

Relegation would be disastrous and needless. No we do not need relegation- in 2013 there was a case to be made that things were getting worse and worse, we were at that time slipping behind Infrastructure wise- can see why go backwards to go forwards again.

Absolutely not now however, no no no.

[Isawjonshaw]

Was it ever this bad previously?  At least under Benny we tried.

[Lrrr]

4 minutes ago, Isawjonshaw said:

Was it ever this bad previously?  At least under Benny we tried.

Yes easily, O'Driscoll's tenure was god awful

[And Its Smith]

Very very weird when fans say we need to go down to reset. Doesn’t even make sense. Just reset at the end of this season when half the squad leaves 

[CotswoldRed]

One of the most meaningless, overused terms in football. 

"We need to be relegated so we can reset". 

[Banjo Red]

3 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

Very very weird when fans say we need to go down to reset. Doesn’t even make sense. Just reset at the end of this season when half the squad leaves 

Agreed

[chinapig]

A reset is required in the form of Ashton being stripped of his power, the fitness/conditioning and medical staff being replaced and a DoF and coaches chosen by Pearson being brought in.

Simply getting rid of as many players as possible will not be enough.

[JoeAman08]

7 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

Very very weird when fans say we need to go down to reset. Doesn’t even make sense. Just reset at the end of this season when half the squad leaves 

Yep. Barnsley didn’t go down and they reset. Lost a manager too! It is also quite foolish to think we are automatically in a relegation battle next season. There is a lot of work to be done but big changes can happen over one summer window. I just hope the right people(person)are allowed to make these decisions.

[sh1t_ref_again]

We have a reset, we have a manager who knows what he is doing and I have confidence will build a team very different from todays

[Lack of Action Man]

We cannot go down to League 1 again, that would be a catastrophic implosion and totally dash any chances of any serious push for elite-level success for the next 10-15 years.

[Engvall’s Splinter]

1 hour ago, Mihai said:

Nigel won't stay and He doesn't have to. We need another relegation in League One to reset again the whole squad. Or a few seasons battling for relegation in Championship. 

Why am I saying that ? Simple..we need to change 80% of our team and that will take at least 2 seasons. I would keep only Kalas, Bentley, Palmer and Dasilva. The rest out, for free even. Just to not waste salary on them.

Even Barnsley has better quality in their whole squad. Isn't only about they being on a nice run and nice spirit that helps, they are better. Our suqad value is somewhere in the bottom 6.

I was naive, thinking that if we spent like even 25 mil. £ on ttanafers, that players has to be quality. No, the entire English football is broken when it comes to the transfer fees. A lot of money paid for regular players that will never deserve to cost that money. I can come with a list :

 

- Massengo 7.2 mil ( do you even think that a good player will leave Monaco for that joke of a money ? They just throw him and have even profit cause of our naive board, he will end up being a league one player soon )

- Kalas too expensive again,  I have seen Romanian footballers going out for cheap and being better, even Chiricheș which came to England for the same amount of money. 

- Wells, ( we just paid for a name, not for quality, he barely scores and he is not even a great dribbler or passer, regular championship player, won't make any difference for any team, in fac he never did just got lucky, he belongs to Bradford )

- Famara ( can not shoot good, can not dribble, can not pass, he can't get past defence, and literally zero vision on the pitch. At least if he could score headers but he missed 9 out of 10 by miles. A 500k player at most and he drags the team backwards every singe game, except lucky goals. He has good stamina and intercepts balls but he could play as a defender then, cause we need goals from him )

- Semenyo ( our future for sure, only if we relegate maybe. He does a lot of mistskes and he literally can't score to save his life. Some pace but how is that helping if he runs and then shoot 15 yards away from the goal. We can't compete for anything with him as a main threat )

- Chris Martin ( good for relegation battle but not more )

- Brunt ( mare some money to keep his son into school and we were stupid enough to pay him for nothing, while he has to retire or play in League two )

There ar a lot of players to review but I won't waste your time with it. Some good players came too, like Kodjia and the best I think it was Eliasson but like usual, we lost them cause we are a small team, we can't pay money and we can't attract quality footballers. Eliasson though was a distrage to let him go. 

 

 

 

Stopped reading after a relegation reset. Utter rubbish. 

[big dosser]

that just reminds me i have to rest my alarm clock

[big dosser]

yes i know reset my alarm clock

[Mr Popodopolous]

1 hour ago, Lrrr said:

Yes easily, O'Driscoll's tenure was god awful

O'Driscoll's tenure actually saw in his first few months some goals and wins at home and some generally good displays.

1. Bristol City 2-1 Ipswich
2. Bristol City 2-0 Watford
3. Bristol City 2-0 Nottingham Forest
4. Bristol City 5-3 Barnsley
5. Bristol City 0-0 Brighton
6. Bristol City 2-0 Middlesbrough

There was some definite fight shown and 17 pts from his first 7 home games! That said when it went, it really went...and continued apace in League One!

[AshtonGreat]

2 hours ago, Mihai said:

Nigel won't stay and He doesn't have to. We need another relegation in League One to reset again the whole squad. Or a few seasons battling for relegation in Championship. 

Why am I saying that ? Simple..we need to change 80% of our team and that will take at least 2 seasons. I would keep only Kalas, Bentley, Palmer and Dasilva. The rest out, for free even. Just to not waste salary on them.

Even Barnsley has better quality in their whole squad. Isn't only about they being on a nice run and nice spirit that helps, they are better. Our suqad value is somewhere in the bottom 6.

I was naive, thinking that if we spent like even 25 mil. £ on ttanafers, that players has to be quality. No, the entire English football is broken when it comes to the transfer fees. A lot of money paid for regular players that will never deserve to cost that money. I can come with a list :

 

- Massengo 7.2 mil ( do you even think that a good player will leave Monaco for that joke of a money ? They just throw him and have even profit cause of our naive board, he will end up being a league one player soon )

- Kalas too expensive again,  I have seen Romanian footballers going out for cheap and being better, even Chiricheș which came to England for the same amount of money. 

- Wells, ( we just paid for a name, not for quality, he barely scores and he is not even a great dribbler or passer, regular championship player, won't make any difference for any team, in fac he never did just got lucky, he belongs to Bradford )

- Famara ( can not shoot good, can not dribble, can not pass, he can't get past defence, and literally zero vision on the pitch. At least if he could score headers but he missed 9 out of 10 by miles. A 500k player at most and he drags the team backwards every singe game, except lucky goals. He has good stamina and intercepts balls but he could play as a defender then, cause we need goals from him )

- Semenyo ( our future for sure, only if we relegate maybe. He does a lot of mistskes and he literally can't score to save his life. Some pace but how is that helping if he runs and then shoot 15 yards away from the goal. We can't compete for anything with him as a main threat )

- Chris Martin ( good for relegation battle but not more )

- Brunt ( mare some money to keep his son into school and we were stupid enough to pay him for nothing, while he has to retire or play in League two )

There ar a lot of players to review but I won't waste your time with it. Some good players came too, like Kodjia and the best I think it was Eliasson but like usual, we lost them cause we are a small team, we can't pay money and we can't attract quality footballers. Eliasson though was a distrage to let him go. 

 

 

 

Out of those four, I'd keep Bentley and Dasilva. The other two aren't good enough, I'm afraid

[Pezo]

I just don't know where we start the conversation, if SL/MA thinks this squad is good enough there is no manager that will be able to get us promoted.

[MarcusX]

Even Kalas isn’t good enough I’m afraid. I’d probably keep him for now but we need to get better players in. He’s too soft, he doesn’t appear to show much leadership and he only plays his best alongside a better defender e.g Mawson or Webster

[Mr Popodopolous]

4 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said:

Out of those four, I'd keep Bentley and Dasilva. The other two aren't good enough, I'm afraid

Kalas has got two Promotions and two Playoffs at this level, and plays at International level for a respectable side- he seems to have been getting worse over time with us?

Anyway I think we have bigger problems than Kalas.

[Tin Soldier]

1 hour ago, chinapig said:

A reset is required in the form of Ashton being stripped of his power, the fitness/conditioning and medical staff being replaced and a DoF and coaches chosen by Pearson being brought in.

Simply getting rid of as many players as possible will not be enough.

If this is so obvious to most on here, why does Lansdown continuously defend the c@nt?
ASHTON OUT.

[AshtonGreat]

37 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Kalas has got two Promotions and two Playoffs at this level, and plays at International level for a respectable side- he seems to have been getting worse over time with us?

Anyway I think we have bigger problems than Kalas.

Yeah he definitely has a good record but he's gone downhill rapidly over the past two seasons. We need a leader at the back

[TonyTonyTony]

3 hours ago, Mihai said:

We need another relegation in League One

What kind of Fan wishes relegation on their own team

Weirdo

[italian dave]

13 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said:

Yeah he definitely has a good record but he's gone downhill rapidly over the past two seasons. We need a leader at the back

You can't really blame players for not being leaders - not everyone is and they have other qualities. Our problem is we haven't brought in anyone who is a leader. 

Kalas leads by example as a player, but no more. What we need is the kind of aggressive midfield warrior that never gives up. I can see Massengo doing that in 5 years: strikingly, he was the only player in our side in recent games who's responded to a goal conceded not by head down, but by running into the net to pick up the ball and get it back to the centre circle to get on with it. And he's 19 - showing seasoned pros like Rowe, Lansbury, Hunt what THEY should be doing. Its shocking.

[Isawjonshaw]

2 hours ago, Lrrr said:

Yes easily, O'Driscoll's tenure was god awful

True.  But we beat the gash though....

[Bristol Oil Services]

4 hours ago, Mihai said:

Nigel won't stay and He doesn't have to. We need another relegation in League One to reset again the whole squad. Or a few seasons battling for relegation in Championship. 

Why am I saying that ? Simple..we need to change 80% of our team and that will take at least 2 seasons. I would keep only Kalas, Bentley, Palmer and Dasilva. The rest out, for free even. Just to not waste salary on them.

Even Barnsley has better quality in their whole squad. Isn't only about they being on a nice run and nice spirit that helps, they are better. Our suqad value is somewhere in the bottom 6.

I was naive, thinking that if we spent like even 25 mil. £ on ttanafers, that players has to be quality. No, the entire English football is broken when it comes to the transfer fees. A lot of money paid for regular players that will never deserve to cost that money. I can come with a list :

 

- Massengo 7.2 mil ( do you even think that a good player will leave Monaco for that joke of a money ? They just throw him and have even profit cause of our naive board, he will end up being a league one player soon )

- Kalas too expensive again,  I have seen Romanian footballers going out for cheap and being better, even Chiricheș which came to England for the same amount of money. 

- Wells, ( we just paid for a name, not for quality, he barely scores and he is not even a great dribbler or passer, regular championship player, won't make any difference for any team, in fac he never did just got lucky, he belongs to Bradford )

- Famara ( can not shoot good, can not dribble, can not pass, he can't get past defence, and literally zero vision on the pitch. At least if he could score headers but he missed 9 out of 10 by miles. A 500k player at most and he drags the team backwards every singe game, except lucky goals. He has good stamina and intercepts balls but he could play as a defender then, cause we need goals from him )

- Semenyo ( our future for sure, only if we relegate maybe. He does a lot of mistskes and he literally can't score to save his life. Some pace but how is that helping if he runs and then shoot 15 yards away from the goal. We can't compete for anything with him as a main threat )

- Chris Martin ( good for relegation battle but not more )

- Brunt ( mare some money to keep his son into school and we were stupid enough to pay him for nothing, while he has to retire or play in League two )

There ar a lot of players to review but I won't waste your time with it. Some good players came too, like Kodjia and the best I think it was Eliasson but like usual, we lost them cause we are a small team, we can't pay money and we can't attract quality footballers. Eliasson though was a distrage to let him go. 

 

 

 

If we are incapable of "resetting" while finishing 14th or 15th in this division - and over a summer when we have so many ooc - then we will surely be relegated, sooner or later. And deserve to be.