22A Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 I've looked at the stats going back over the last 20 seasons. In 13 of those, including the last three, City picked up more points than goals scored. Do we need better forwards, or simply provide better service to the existing ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 minute ago, 22A said: I've looked at the stats going back over the last 20 seasons. In 13 of those, including the last three, City picked up more points than goals scored. Do we need better forwards, or simply provide better service to the existing ones? Both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 minute ago, 22A said: I've looked at the stats going back over the last 20 seasons. In 13 of those, including the last three, City picked up more points than goals scored. Do we need better forwards, or simply provide better service to the existing ones? The service is the main problem. Nahki Wells is the prime example of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 Just now, joe jordans teeth said: Both Yep. You look at our main 2 strikers today & although Famara was on a bit of a hiding to nothing once we went down to 10, he didn’t do much. Wells came on & was no better. However one sublime through ball by Bakinson that was either slightly beyond Fam or he didn’t read apart, we created hardly anything. I know we were down to 10 men for 70 minutes but today wasn’t unusual, we simply create very little. We need a complete overhaul in midfield & although our options are more limited with Wells & Martin both under contract, another forward option to replace Diedhiou. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midlands Robin Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 People have previously praised Fan for his tracking back and defending but if I'm totally honest I don't want him anywhere near the defence. It's not that he hasn't been a component in clearing the ball but he's then not where he should be to receive the bloody thing. I watched him today and he was back around the midfield and playing the ball around behind Semenyo and Paterson. When you are playing one up top you need him to stay up top. Yeah the service we provide through midfield isn't great but, because it takes us so long to find a target to play forward to then we ultimately lose the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaverface Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 Could do with one out and out winger, and a second one to bring on when we're really chasing a game. Could do with another proper target man in the shape of Duric or Wilbraham to feed off those wingers. Could probably do with a centre back who can come up front like Flint did when we're also chasing games in the last few minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 14 minutes ago, Midlands Robin said: People have previously praised Fan for his tracking back and defending but if I'm totally honest I don't want him anywhere near the defence. It's not that he hasn't been a component in clearing the ball but he's then not where he should be to receive the bloody thing. I watched him today and he was back around the midfield and playing the ball around behind Semenyo and Paterson. When you are playing one up top you need him to stay up top. Yeah the service we provide through midfield isn't great but, because it takes us so long to find a target to play forward to then we ultimately lose the ball. Paterson ? What game were you watching? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 Obviously service. Nakhi Wells thrives on service and never scores so clear where the troubles lie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 17 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Obviously service. Nakhi Wells thrives on service and never scores so clear where the troubles lie Wouldn’t bet your house on Wells scoring goals let alone mine,he can’t of had crap service at every club apart from qpr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midlands Robin Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 49 minutes ago, The Horse With No Name said: Paterson One in which I am quite clearly a buffoon and should have typed Pearson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 hour ago, 22A said: I've looked at the stats going back over the last 20 seasons. In 13 of those, including the last three, City picked up more points than goals scored. Do we need better forwards, or simply provide better service to the existing ones? If we were missing chances I'd say strikers, as we are not I'd say service. Not as black and white as that, nothing ever is. We have been lacking in MF for some time, strikers runs (Wells) have been missed or ignored. We have he'd the players that could play that pass and Fam doesn't move a great deal. If Pearson gets a long term deal, he will hopefully work on the link up between the MF & strikers so we play a more joined up style. Because we go direct a lot, Fam doesn't move and make runs, because he doesn't move he doesn't offer himself for a pass. Chicken / Egg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 2 hours ago, GrahamC said: Yep. You look at our main 2 strikers today & although Famara was on a bit of a hiding to nothing once we went down to 10, he didn’t do much. Wells came on & was no better. However one sublime through ball by Bakinson that was either slightly beyond Fam or he didn’t read apart, we created hardly anything. I know we were down to 10 men for 70 minutes but today wasn’t unusual, we simply create very little. We need a complete overhaul in midfield & although our options are more limited with Wells & Martin both under contract, another forward option to replace Diedhiou. At least Wells gave their CBs a bit of a niggle today, at least he ran them short, at least he ran them long, at least he challenged them on high balls. Fam just stands still and then reacts. The amount of free headers their CBs had in the first half was shocking. I don’t expect him to win them either, but free headers are inexcusable. Fam actually did a few decent touches when the pass was straight to him, but he offers so little to the team mate on the ball, he rarely gets on the ball. I do wonder what he thinks when he comes off (either subbed or end of game), but I wonder more what his team mates think! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted April 18, 2021 Report Share Posted April 18, 2021 16 hours ago, 22A said: I've looked at the stats going back over the last 20 seasons. In 13 of those, including the last three, City picked up more points than goals scored. Do we need better forwards, or simply provide better service to the existing ones? The goals would flow from a couple of ten year old kids if we had creators in midfield. John Atyeo might have managed 35 in his career instead of 350 with our current attacking attitude. I look at every team we play against and I regularly see twenty to fifty metre passes to players in front of the passer. We play one per game, so many of ours are sideways and backwards. Our squad has been brainwashed over the last 3/4 seasons to play keep ball among the midfield and defence. Bentley receives more passes than any other player on the pitch. That is the problem! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon79 Posted April 18, 2021 Report Share Posted April 18, 2021 Probably a bit of both. But both linked to movement, which has been a common theme for some time now. We are reactionary in a lot we do imo. It’s something that needs addressing pre season along with a lack of pace & strength. COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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