Redandproud Posted April 26, 2021 Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 Somebody tell me,how can a player be offside from a corner, ie Conway "goal" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted April 26, 2021 Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 Was it given offside from the corner or a subsequent touch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaverface Posted April 26, 2021 Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 1 minute ago, CotswoldRed said: Was it given offside from the corner or a subsequent touch? I thought the touch that caused the ball to fall to Conway came off a Luton player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted April 26, 2021 Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 It didn't go in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted April 26, 2021 Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Roger Red Hat said: It didn't go in! Seen that said, but why did the ref bring the game back & give them a free kick then? If Conway was deemed offside surely play could have gone on? 2 minutes ago, JonDolman said: I'm confused by it. Didn't Baker head it and then it hit one Peterborough player, then another Peterborough player and then Conway scores. Haven't seen it back since then but it was something like that. Think back to Assombalonga goal where ball was played over to Assombalonga in an offside position but Moore got his head on it, which meant Assombalonga was onside. Not sure what the difference is. Not sure what It has to do with Peterborough? They’re in League One.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southport Red Posted April 26, 2021 Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, JonDolman said: I'm confused by it. Didn't Baker head it and then it hit one Peterborough player, then another Peterborough player and then Conway scores. Haven't seen it back since then but it was something like that. Think back to Assombalonga goal where ball was played over to Assombalonga in an offside position but Moore got his head on it, which meant Assombalonga was onside. Not sure what the difference is. Not sure how many Peterborough players it hit Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted April 26, 2021 Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 Comes back to the defender not intentionally playing the ball? Conway is stood right in front of the keeper offside and the defender hasn't intended to play the ball and its just deflected off him, if the defender tried playing the ball Conway would have been onside? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted April 26, 2021 Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 12 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Seen that said, but why did the ref bring the game back & give them a free kick then? If Conway was deemed offside surely play could have gone on I'm not party to what goes on in the ref's mind, but having seen replays, the ball didn't cross the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted April 26, 2021 Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 28 minutes ago, Redandproud said: Somebody tell me,how can a player be offside from a corner, ie Conway "goal" Because Lansbury headed it en route and with Conway stood on the goal line, he then became offside. Correct decision by lino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redandproud Posted April 26, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 29 minutes ago, CotswoldRed said: Was it given offside from the corner or a subsequent touch? That's what the commentator states,"offside" on Robins TV, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erndogz Posted April 26, 2021 Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 I dont think it crossed the line, I think the header was directed backwards, Possibly more obstruction on the keeper rather than offside in my opinion (which counts for nothing). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.G.Red Posted April 26, 2021 Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 This was corrected by Radio Bristol. Apparently it wasn’t offside, or it is was, it didn’t go in anyway. The deciding factor for No Goal , was that the Ref didn’t receive any notification that the ball had crossed the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted April 26, 2021 Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 51 minutes ago, JonDolman said: I'm confused by it. Didn't Baker head it and then it hit one Peterborough player, then another Peterborough player and then Conway scores. Haven't seen it back since then but it was something like that. Think back to Assombalonga goal where ball was played over to Assombalonga in an offside position but Moore got his head on it, which meant Assombalonga was onside. Not sure what the difference is. Has to be a deliberate action. If it hits a defender it doesn't play the attacker onside. If the defender makes a deliberate play at the ball such as the Assombalonga incident then it does. That issue/rule is still contentious though for me as Moore doesn't make an attempt if the attacker isn't there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaverface Posted April 26, 2021 Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 9 minutes ago, MarcusX said: Has to be a deliberate action. If it hits a defender it doesn't play the attacker onside. If the defender makes a deliberate play at the ball such as the Assombalonga incident then it does. That issue/rule is still contentious though for me as Moore doesn't make an attempt if the attacker isn't there. I suppose given where they're stood, they're deliberately trying to block the ball with any legal part of their body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Watts Posted April 26, 2021 Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 I didn't see the match so can't comment on this specific instance. However in a more general sense of how can you be offside from a corner.... Seldom is the ball on the bye-line when a corner is taken and is often about a yard in the pitch. Given that, if on the line is only an attacker and the keeper, would that not be offside? Not trying to be smart, I genuinely don't know. But in the era where a stray pube could render you offside, this could be the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted April 26, 2021 Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 1 hour ago, MarcusX said: Has to be a deliberate action. If it hits a defender it doesn't play the attacker onside. If the defender makes a deliberate play at the ball such as the Assombalonga incident then it does. That issue/rule is still contentious though for me as Moore doesn't make an attempt if the attacker isn't there. Is the right answer.....as is your questioning of the Moore incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted April 26, 2021 Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 Pointless me saying this as it changes nothing, but anyway Not sure if Baker heads it, or it even goes forward until it hits the defender. and I know still photos prove nothing but as we're here. The Ref should consult the Lino surely. Ref gave it from the flag, Lino gave it as the ball goes forward. 2 hours ago, Roger Red Hat said: It didn't go in! No way you can tell from the footage and it never went as far as Goal line tech as the Ref gave offside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted April 26, 2021 Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: Pointless me saying this as it changes nothing, but anyway Not sure if Baker heads it, or it even goes forward until it hits the defender. and I know still photos prove nothing but as we're here. The Ref should consult the Lino surely. Ref gave it from the flag, Lino gave it as the ball goes forward. No way you can tell from the footage and it never went as far as Goal line tech as the Ref gave offside. It didn't go in, you can see on the replays, player stops it with part of the ball over the line and brings it back. Linesman has presumably thought Baker's flick on has slightly gone forward hence offside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted April 26, 2021 Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 Baker definitely got a flick on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Posted April 26, 2021 Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 There I was thinking the thread was going going to be about my well-being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted April 26, 2021 Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Lrrr said: It didn't go in, you can see on the replays, player stops it with part of the ball over the line and brings it back. Linesman has presumably thought Baker's flick on has slightly gone forward hence offside It's close but with out goal line tech you can't be sure. Angles can be deceptive and not sure the frame speed is good enough to tell. 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: Baker definitely got a flick on it. Not sure if it actually goes forward though, the definite forward movement comes from the defender. I do think the Ref & Lino should have consulted though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted April 26, 2021 Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 12 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: It's close but with out goal line tech you can't be sure. Angles can be deceptive and not sure the frame speed is good enough to tell. This is the furthest the ball goes over the line, using .25 speed on youtube, definitely a chunk left on the line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted April 26, 2021 Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 1 hour ago, 1960maaan said: It's close but with out goal line tech you can't be sure. Angles can be deceptive and not sure the frame speed is good enough to tell. Not sure if it actually goes forward though, the definite forward movement comes from the defender. I do think the Ref & Lino should have consulted though. Ref and Lino can consult through mic and ear piece....there’s no need to go over and chat. I used to work with the other Lino yesterday (Mark Russell), he refuses to discuss Football incidents with me!!! It wouldn’t surprise me if the ball was “just” over the line, ref got the Alert, but linesman also flagged, and said Conway was offside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted April 26, 2021 Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 7 hours ago, Steve Watts said: I didn't see the match so can't comment on this specific instance. However in a more general sense of how can you be offside from a corner.... Seldom is the ball on the bye-line when a corner is taken and is often about a yard in the pitch. Given that, if on the line is only an attacker and the keeper, would that not be offside? Not trying to be smart, I genuinely don't know. But in the era where a stray pube could render you offside, this could be the case. Makes no difference, you can’t be offside from the initial kick of a corner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampshire Red Posted April 26, 2021 Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 Let it go, we're safe, we start two divs above the gas and we have to get used to seasons where we aren't top half and competitive; this will annoy many on hear whom have got used to it since SL gave Cotts the resources to win a Championship and Lee J the time to build a competitive side with a good squad. Covid and the new manager not working out were not expected nor foreseeable. We had many seasons like this under Alan Dicks and if he proves to be any good, Pearson will get things sorted this summer, no worries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hertsexile Posted April 26, 2021 Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 Let’s face it we are dire on Sunday and threw the game away by sloppy defending. It would have been great for Conway to score but move on was not meant to be. However the only thing I would ask for next season is consistency from officials which is a big ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42nite Posted April 26, 2021 Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 I used to be able to explain the offside rule to my Mrs.....again and again. But that was ok. Now? Forget it! I wouldn't know where to start....or even end! Why do they have to make such a simple game so complicated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted April 26, 2021 Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 13 minutes ago, 42nite said: I used to be able to explain the offside rule to my Mrs.....again and again. But that was ok. Now? Forget it! I wouldn't know where to start....or even end! Why do they have to make such a simple game so complicated? No wonder she left you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocking Red Cyril Posted April 26, 2021 Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 5 hours ago, Offside said: There I was thinking the thread was going going to be about my well-being. It is, how the devil are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted April 26, 2021 Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 8 hours ago, Steve Watts said: I didn't see the match so can't comment on this specific instance. However in a more general sense of how can you be offside from a corner.... Seldom is the ball on the bye-line when a corner is taken and is often about a yard in the pitch. Given that, if on the line is only an attacker and the keeper, would that not be offside? Not trying to be smart, I genuinely don't know. But in the era where a stray pube could render you offside, this could be the case. The simple answer is, the laws of the game state that you cannot be offside from a corner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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