exAtyeoMax Posted May 5, 2021 Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 16 hours ago, Harry said: Nigel Pearson + some honest assessments. Would SL have become aware of the MA/ITFC situation last summer? That may explain the issues around appointing a new head coach, media blackout etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmNick Posted May 5, 2021 Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 49 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said: Would SL have become aware of the MA/ITFC situation last summer? That may explain the issues around appointing a new head coach, media blackout etc? Maybe - here's a potentially crazy theory: SL knew about MA planning to leave last summer. He asked him to stay on for the full year, get the HPC open, finish the stuff he's doing and so on, and then leave. As a result, SL knows there will be a major change coming in the club. Rather than appoint a new manager (Pearson, Hughton) who'd want a lot of control immediately, he'd rather wait until MA is gone and the new guy can have a major input into what happens. He also sees all the out of contract players, the uncertainty around covid, and the stars are aligning slightly for a rebuild. As a result, they appoint Holden, hope he can hold the fort for a year and not take us down, then ditch him and hire an actual manager with the lure of a clean slate, a new CEO, his own staff, loads of OOC players he can replace, and so on. Unfortunately Holden was potentially taking us down so they had to pull the trigger a bit early, and now have the slightly awkward situation with Ashton's departure getting leaked prematurely, and Nigel taking more control than expected early. No idea about the above, just a thought. Maybe I'm giving them too much credit for planning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted May 5, 2021 Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 15 minutes ago, IAmNick said: Maybe - here's a potentially crazy theory: SL knew about MA planning to leave last summer. He asked him to stay on for the full year, get the HPC open, finish the stuff he's doing and so on, and then leave. As a result, SL knows there will be a major change coming in the club. Rather than appoint a new manager (Pearson, Hughton) who'd want a lot of control immediately, he'd rather wait until MA is gone and the new guy can have a major input into what happens. He also sees all the out of contract players, the uncertainty around covid, and the stars are aligning slightly for a rebuild. As a result, they appoint Holden, hope he can hold the fort for a year and not take us down, then ditch him and hire an actual manager with the lure of a clean slate, a new CEO, his own staff, loads of OOC players he can replace, and so on. Unfortunately Holden was potentially taking us down so they had to pull the trigger a bit early, and now have the slightly awkward situation with Ashton's departure getting leaked prematurely, and Nigel taking more control than expected early. No idea about the above, just a thought. Maybe I'm giving them too much credit for planning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted May 5, 2021 Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 Just playing devil's advocate here... It will be interesting to see what we all think if Ipswich don't have any injury crises in the next couple of seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodjias Wrist Posted May 5, 2021 Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 22 minutes ago, mozo said: Just playing devil's advocate here... It will be interesting to see what we all think if Ipswich don't have any injury crises in the next couple of seasons. I'm pretty sure I read on their forum that they already had a bad one. This was in response to us pointing the finger at MA and Rolls, saying we are no different to plenty other teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted May 5, 2021 Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 21 hours ago, exAtyeoMax said: I didn't trust him from the off…I was just judged to be a numpty who didn't like men in suits who talked BS management speak, too dumb basically… Likewise fella, likewise. Was as obvious as a fart in a lift he was not to be trusted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzos Only Goal Posted May 5, 2021 Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 3 hours ago, Atticus said: Interesting that. Shows alot of insight into why Johnson/Holden were brought in. Ashton is the biggest fraud and bullshitter going. EDIT: When I say insight I mean confirmation. It was obvious why Holden was brought in, and it wasnt for his experience or the fact he is a good human. Let's be honest the only thing Ashton has done is help us get better value for our players that have been sold, he has failed to replace those players with decent quality players. And he's jumped ship like a rat when he's been found out, the little fraud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderwithtommy Posted May 5, 2021 Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 Oddest bit is Ipswich fans basically saying “silly Bristol City should know their place, Ashton workers wonders”. One bit of credit we should take as a fan base is how well we have reacted to the sales of our top talent, understanding the wider economics involved and our place in the food chain. they seem to want to cover their ears to the complete car crash Ashton and Rolls are leaving behind. Good luck to them, so glad they are out of this club. Good luck to Ipswich as well, I hope they know their place and don’t complain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 On 05/05/2021 at 11:32, IAmNick said: Maybe - here's a potentially crazy theory: SL knew about MA planning to leave last summer. He asked him to stay on for the full year, get the HPC open, finish the stuff he's doing and so on, and then leave. As a result, SL knows there will be a major change coming in the club. Rather than appoint a new manager (Pearson, Hughton) who'd want a lot of control immediately, he'd rather wait until MA is gone and the new guy can have a major input into what happens. He also sees all the out of contract players, the uncertainty around covid, and the stars are aligning slightly for a rebuild. As a result, they appoint Holden, hope he can hold the fort for a year and not take us down, then ditch him and hire an actual manager with the lure of a clean slate, a new CEO, his own staff, loads of OOC players he can replace, and so on. Unfortunately Holden was potentially taking us down so they had to pull the trigger a bit early, and now have the slightly awkward situation with Ashton's departure getting leaked prematurely, and Nigel taking more control than expected early. No idea about the above, just a thought. Maybe I'm giving them too much credit for planning! Sorry to be thick - what is ‘HPC’ ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanburyRed Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 5 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Sorry to be thick - what is ‘HPC’ ? High Performance Centre i.e: posh training facility! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 16 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Sorry to be thick - what is ‘HPC’ ? Now you've started something. Help please cover-up. Health possibly corrupt From FBC podcast - Hamstring performance Centre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fgrsimon Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 1 hour ago, BanburyRed said: High Performance Centre i.e: posh training facility! Hamstrings Pulled Constantly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiale Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 As its the home of our teams and staff, they should have called it Robins Nest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 4 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Sorry to be thick - what is ‘HPC’ ? High Performance Centre?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 On 05/05/2021 at 11:32, IAmNick said: Maybe - here's a potentially crazy theory: SL knew about MA planning to leave last summer. He asked him to stay on for the full year, get the HPC open, finish the stuff he's doing and so on, and then leave. As a result, SL knows there will be a major change coming in the club. Rather than appoint a new manager (Pearson, Hughton) who'd want a lot of control immediately, he'd rather wait until MA is gone and the new guy can have a major input into what happens. He also sees all the out of contract players, the uncertainty around covid, and the stars are aligning slightly for a rebuild. As a result, they appoint Holden, hope he can hold the fort for a year and not take us down, then ditch him and hire an actual manager with the lure of a clean slate, a new CEO, his own staff, loads of OOC players he can replace, and so on. Unfortunately Holden was potentially taking us down so they had to pull the trigger a bit early, and now have the slightly awkward situation with Ashton's departure getting leaked prematurely, and Nigel taking more control than expected early. No idea about the above, just a thought. Maybe I'm giving them too much credit for planning! Surely if SL knew Ashton was planning to leave last summer, he would've had his replacement ready to assume office from 1 June 2021? SL would've had a year to do the most thorough recruitment process of his life (blowing Holden's appointment into the water) if that theory was true, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmNick Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 1 hour ago, tin said: Surely if SL knew Ashton was planning to leave last summer, he would've had his replacement ready to assume office from 1 June 2021? SL would've had a year to do the most thorough recruitment process of his life (blowing Holden's appointment into the water) if that theory was true, IMO. Yep good point - it really is just a random guess as so much chaos (player contracts ending, Ashton / other staff leaving, covid, Holden/Pearson) all seems to be aligning this summer I was wondering if it was more than just coincidence (or crap planning). Maybe there is a replacement? Maybe he wanted the next manager to have more input? Maybe I'm talking a load of bollocks (most likely)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 1 minute ago, IAmNick said: Yep good point - it really is just a random guess as so much chaos (player contracts ending, Ashton / other staff leaving, covid, Holden/Pearson) all seems to be aligning this summer I was wondering if it was more than just coincidence (or crap planning). Maybe there is a replacement? Maybe he wanted the next manager to have more input? Maybe I'm talking a load of bollocks (most likely)! If it looks like a clusterfck, sounds like a clusterfck and smells like a clusterfck, then what you've most probably got is a good old BCFC... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 1 hour ago, IAmNick said: Yep good point - it really is just a random guess as so much chaos (player contracts ending, Ashton / other staff leaving, covid, Holden/Pearson) all seems to be aligning this summer I was wondering if it was more than just coincidence (or crap planning). Maybe there is a replacement? Maybe he wanted the next manager to have more input? Maybe I'm talking a load of bollocks (most likely)! It's a theory and it's possible. I just lean more to the crap planning side of the argument, though, borne out of SL taking his eye off the ball and his son spending more time in the Caribbean, leaving a charlatan and his mates to ride roughshod over the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 On 05/05/2021 at 11:52, mozo said: Just playing devil's advocate here... It will be interesting to see what we all think if Ipswich don't have any injury crises in the next couple of seasons. I think it will be an outlier.............because Arsenal, West Ham and Bristol City have all employed this bloke and suffered horrendous injury issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoh Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 On 04/05/2021 at 16:16, Davefevs said: The Goblin Teasmaid went off! my parents pride and Joy and probably my wish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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