Glyn Rileys Mullet Posted April 30, 2021 Report Share Posted April 30, 2021 To contextualise: Sacking the manager/Head Coach is the most common action to take when a team is performing badly. The commonly heard argument is that it is cheaper to replace 1 manager than the squad of players. It is rare for those group of players to show improved performance beyond the “dead cat bounce”. Often it takes a new manager with several signings to reverse the downward spiral and several transfer windows to replace the rest. The UK must be swimming with players who have been transferred out in this way. Reason for post: Has anyone (stattos in particular) seen an analysis of the career paths/destinations of the types of players that are bombed out? IE something that would help form a profile of the players a team should avoid or indeed put plans in place to manage better. My assumptions are that there are common traits. For example.... 1) Players that have been promoted with a team and are not technically good enough for the league above. 2) Players that were bought into a club for their potential but not realised. 3) Significant injury that has affected their game 4) Mental fatigue 5) Passing their peak physically 6) Lack of flexibility with regards to team dynamics. 7) Falling out of love with the game or the club If you are aware of any such analysis please could you point me in the right direction. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted April 30, 2021 Report Share Posted April 30, 2021 8 minutes ago, Glyn Rileys Mullet said: To contextualise: Sacking the manager/Head Coach is the most common action to take when a team is performing badly. The commonly heard argument is that it is cheaper to replace 1 manager than the squad of players. It is rare for those group of players to show improved performance beyond the “dead cat bounce”. Often it takes a new manager with several signings to reverse the downward spiral and several transfer windows to replace the rest. The UK must be swimming with players who have been transferred out in this way. Reason for post: Has anyone (stattos in particular) seen an analysis of the career paths/destinations of the types of players that are bombed out? IE something that would help form a profile of the players a team should avoid or indeed put plans in place to manage better. My assumptions are that there are common traits. For example.... 1) Players that have been promoted with a team and are not technically good enough for the league above. 2) Players that were bought into a club for their potential but not realised. 3) Significant injury that has affected their game 4) Mental fatigue 5) Passing their peak physically 6) Lack of flexibility with regards to team dynamics. 7) Falling out of love with the game or the club If you are aware of any such analysis please could you point me in the right direction. Thanks Welcome to city big Nige but do your own homework Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted April 30, 2021 Report Share Posted April 30, 2021 21 minutes ago, Glyn Rileys Mullet said: To contextualise: Sacking the manager/Head Coach is the most common action to take when a team is performing badly. The commonly heard argument is that it is cheaper to replace 1 manager than the squad of players. It is rare for those group of players to show improved performance beyond the “dead cat bounce”. Often it takes a new manager with several signings to reverse the downward spiral and several transfer windows to replace the rest. The UK must be swimming with players who have been transferred out in this way. Reason for post: Has anyone (stattos in particular) seen an analysis of the career paths/destinations of the types of players that are bombed out? IE something that would help form a profile of the players a team should avoid or indeed put plans in place to manage better. My assumptions are that there are common traits. For example.... 1) Players that have been promoted with a team and are not technically good enough for the league above. 2) Players that were bought into a club for their potential but not realised. 3) Significant injury that has affected their game 4) Mental fatigue 5) Passing their peak physically 6) Lack of flexibility with regards to team dynamics. 7) Falling out of love with the game or the club If you are aware of any such analysis please could you point me in the right direction. Thanks Points 1 to 7 are our recruitment strategy for the past 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted April 30, 2021 Report Share Posted April 30, 2021 43 minutes ago, Glyn Rileys Mullet said: To contextualise: Sacking the manager/Head Coach is the most common action to take when a team is performing badly. The commonly heard argument is that it is cheaper to replace 1 manager than the squad of players. It is rare for those group of players to show improved performance beyond the “dead cat bounce”. Often it takes a new manager with several signings to reverse the downward spiral and several transfer windows to replace the rest. The UK must be swimming with players who have been transferred out in this way. Reason for post: Has anyone (stattos in particular) seen an analysis of the career paths/destinations of the types of players that are bombed out? IE something that would help form a profile of the players a team should avoid or indeed put plans in place to manage better. My assumptions are that there are common traits. For example.... 1) Players that have been promoted with a team and are not technically good enough for the league above. 2) Players that were bought into a club for their potential but not realised. 3) Significant injury that has affected their game 4) Mental fatigue 5) Passing their peak physically 6) Lack of flexibility with regards to team dynamics. 7) Falling out of love with the game or the club If you are aware of any such analysis please could you point me in the right direction. Thanks Sounds like a job for davefevs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted April 30, 2021 Report Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 hour ago, downendcity said: Sounds like a job for davefevs! The answer is 42. Seriously though, I did a piece last year on loanees / strategy called “one loan too many?”. Not sure it goes into the sort of detail the OP is mentioning, but shows it’s very individual. https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/one-loan-many-how-bristol-4461439 Quite interesting looking back at those who were loaned out last year: O’Leary, Moore, Vyner, Bakinson, Semenyo, the last 3 especially have played a big part this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo1111 Posted April 30, 2021 Report Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Harry said: Points 1 to 7 are our recruitment strategy for the past 2 years. No way. Mark Ashton had a top recruitment strategy that prioritised a players DNA. We have only signed hungry players with outstanding character according to Mark. Also Lee Johnson always used to bang on about the emotional intelligence of the players we were attracting......... You are not suggesting Johnson and Ashton were full of utter bullshit and waffle are you????? A couple of bluffers??? Pulled the wool over lansdown eyes ?? No way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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