SecretSam Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 1 hour ago, steviestevieneville said: Why don’t people like Rooney though if it’s true. He was a great player& certainly someone I never thought of as big headed & arrogant. He's definitely big headed, probably arrogant and certainly wasn't a "great" player. Plus his wife is not very nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Pickle Rick said: Why do they need to get relegated? Because both are insufferable, billy big bollox who have been irresponsibly run with regard to their finances and as a result cynically corrupted FFP rules. Relegation the least they deserve, irrespective of any other punishments already imposed. Fck em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42nite Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 Not really fussed who goes down. Just so relieved it's not us. A couple more games and we would have be in it big time. We definitely dodged a bullet here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephjnr Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 1 hour ago, SecretSam said: He's definitely big headed, probably arrogant and certainly wasn't a "great" player. Plus his wife is not very nice. Pretty much every discourse he's had with a referee has had the word "off" in it somewhere, usually the second word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 1 hour ago, SecretSam said: He's definitely big headed, probably arrogant and certainly wasn't a "great" player. Plus his wife is not very nice. He was very talented, and the early years of his career were very good. However, 2004 apart, he never really turned up at any tournament. In 2010, South Africa he, like the rest of the team, was a disgrace (he got booed by the fans out there and didn't take it well, at all). Should have achieved more in his career, especially while playing for his country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 1 hour ago, SecretSam said: He's definitely big headed, probably arrogant and certainly wasn't a "great" player. Plus his wife is not very nice. Not a great player? Possibly one of the worst comments I've seen on this forum United's top goalscorer, won everything there is to win at domestic level, only Shearer has more Premier league goals. Around 2008/09/10 he was at the very top level. Some will say he under-performed for England especially in tournaments but he always seemed to pick up injuries. We win Euro 2004 if he didn't get injured IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 22 minutes ago, The Gasbuster said: He was very talented, and the early years of his career were very good. However, 2004 apart, he never really turned up at any tournament. In 2010, South Africa he, like the rest of the team, was a disgrace (he got booed by the fans out there and didn't take it well, at all). Should have achieved more in his career, especially while playing for his country. He was always injured sadly. Injured at 2004, broke his foot going into 2006 and was rushed back. 2010 he got injured for United against Bayern and wasn't fit at all. Shouldn't have reacted how he did but I bet he was incredibly frustrated. 2014 I think he was injured too in the months before. He won everything at domestic level, he can't be blamed for not doing more for his country he's our all time record goal scorer and as above, never had a fresh shot at a tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 Also there's already a 3 page thread discussing this since Saturday? Seems to be happening a lot lately like the umpteen threads about who is leaving in the summer and who should stay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 3 hours ago, SecretSam said: He's definitely big headed, probably arrogant and certainly wasn't a "great" player. Plus his wife is not very nice. Know him personally do you ? 3 hours ago, CyderInACan said: Really? Yes. What makes you think differently ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 3 hours ago, SecretSam said: He's definitely big headed, probably arrogant and certainly wasn't a "great" player. I don't know what to say to that. He is England's all time record goal scorer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireSection Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 5 hours ago, TonyTonyTony said: I would prefer both to go down, but yes i do see Derby as fans entitled. Also Mel Morris is a total knob And Wendy fans are down to earth and grounded. Non think they have a divine right to be in the big time, both as bad as each other in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Alligator Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 5 minutes ago, TonyTonyTony said: I don't know what to say to that. He is England's all time record goal scorer... That fact in itself says a lot about how "great" he was (or indeed is) in world football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.G.Red Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 4 hours ago, SecretSam said: He's definitely big headed, probably arrogant and certainly wasn't a "great" player. Plus his wife is not very nice. I think you need to have some arrogance to do well but also he does do a lot of charity work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 15 minutes ago, E.G.Red said: but also he does do a lot of charity work Help the Aged is his favourite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 2 hours ago, TonyTonyTony said: I don't know what to say to that. He is England's all time record goal scorer... People just don’t like him I’m still gobsmacked that someone can say he wasn’t a “great” player. He was one of the best in the world at his peak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, MarcusX said: People just don’t like him I’m still gobsmacked that someone can say he wasn’t a “great” player. He was one of the best in the world at his peak When he played next to Ronaldo at Manure he was sensational. Top player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 Come on Wednesday!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHIPLEY RED Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 7 hours ago, SecretSam said: He's definitely big headed, probably arrogant and certainly wasn't a "great" player. Plus his wife is not very nice. I don't know if he is big headed or arrogant as I've never met the man but he was a great player. You don't become the the all time top scorer for Man Utd and England without being a great player. People say he never did it for England but neither did many other great players, we haven't won or got to the final of a tournament since 1966. He was Derby's best player and although they were struggling before they have collapsed since he hung his boots up. Saturday will be fascinating but I can see both games being draws and Derby stay up by the skin of their teeth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 12 hours ago, TonyTonyTony said: When he played next to Ronaldo at Manure he was sensational. Top player Also filled the gap left by Ronaldo with 34 goals (I think?) that season, he was unplayable at times and then got that cruel injury at the end of the Bayern game which ruined the summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 13 hours ago, MarcusX said: People just don’t like him I’m still gobsmacked that someone can say he wasn’t a “great” player. He was one of the best in the world at his peak The same people who say Rooney wasn't all that said the same about Beckham and Gascoigne and you can bet your bottom dollar will be lining up Phil Foden in their sights (because they are far more educated in football things than mugs like Pep). The common denominator seems to be they are all English and therefore cannot be a great player by definition!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 Are people actually saying Rooney wasn't a top player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 45 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: The same people who say Rooney wasn't all that said the same about Beckham and Gascoigne and you can bet your bottom dollar will be lining up Phil Foden in their sights (because they are far more educated in football things than mugs like Pep). The common denominator seems to be they are all English and therefore cannot be a great player by definition!! Beckham certainly wasn't "great". The best English player of that era was Scholes. Gascoigne could have been, but for injury. And alcohol. Foden? Could be amazing. Don't think much of your psychic powers. 36 minutes ago, Super said: Are people actually saying Rooney wasn't a top player? No. I said he wasn't a "great", i.e. world class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodjias Wrist Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, SecretSam said: Beckham certainly wasn't "great". The best English player of that era was Scholes. Gascoigne could have been, but for injury. And alcohol. Foden? Could be amazing. Don't think much of your psychic powers. Well thats not fact is it thats your opinion. Some say Gerrard, some say Rooney. All of which IMO were world class players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, SecretSam said: Beckham certainly wasn't "great". The best English player of that era was Scholes. Gascoigne could have been, but for injury. And alcohol. Foden? Could be amazing. Don't think much of your psychic powers. No. I said he wasn't a "great", i.e. world class. Granted he disappointed on the biggest stage for England but he produced on the biggest stage for United. Messi has hardly set the world alight at tournaments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, SecretSam said: Beckham certainly wasn't "great". The best English player of that era was Scholes. Gascoigne could have been, but for injury. And alcohol. Foden? Could be amazing. Don't think much of your psychic powers. No. I said he wasn't a "great", i.e. world class. Not sure what you are referring to with "psychic powers" (and not bothered either so no need to clarify) but Beckham played for Manchester United, Real Madrid, AC Milan and PSG in his career.....given players like that are ten a penny how come BCFC always miss out on them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiltshire robin Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 19 hours ago, SecretSam said: He's definitely big headed, probably arrogant and certainly wasn't a "great" player. Plus his wife is not very nice. :laugh: I agree with big headed and arrogant but how can you say he wasn’t a great player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Watts Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 21 hours ago, TonyTonyTony said: Help the Aged is his favourite I hear he went down a treat at their charity fundraisers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 Still thinking Derby are worse but it's a difficult one for me- ideally both! Derby seem more arrogant for one. It seems to permeate that club. Remember all the 'EFL on strings' nonsense a couple of years back. The celebrity culture from Lampard to Rooney via Cocu. Sheffield Wednesday did the financial irregularities bit but so did Derby. The latter though, you only have to read their forum to see a general bullishness. Unless Chansiri is a fine actor, some of his press conferences are, have been shambolic. No Wednesday fan could with a straight face declare he had the EFL on strings etc. An absolute idiot. That aside, deduction getting halved was a nonsense. Given the EFL appeared to okay the moving of the Stadium sale to 17/18, wow Amateur Hour all round! Worth reading the report in full, no party came out well, be it the club, Chansiri, EFL (especially Harvey) or the Auditors- this is possibly why it was halved. All of them seemed to assume it was okay and didn't dig in as far as they should. Still it would be fitting as if they do go down, it would almost certainly be within 6 pts or less- aka the eventually amended deduction and it would fit the crime. Derby feel more deserving but really both of them deserve it deeply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 I'd prefer Rotherham to stay up over both of them from the view of what would be most beneficial for us. Other than that I'm genuinely not arsed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southport Red Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 22 hours ago, E.G.Red said: I think you need to have some arrogance to do well but also he does do a lot of charity work A friend of mine (who is a Liverpool fan and so has a pathological hatred of "Bluenoses") works at Alder Hey (The children's Hospital in Liverpool). He says (only half joking) that Rooney is in there more often than he is. Don't like Derby, think they cheated, think they think they are something special and hope they go down, but, from the little I know, Rooney is a decent chap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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