22A Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 When City let Szmodics go to P'boro', there was speculation on this forum that it was a sweetener as Ivan Toney was a P'boro' player who wanted to move on and City were interested in him. In the end Ivan signed or Brentford; why? Did Brentford make a better offer than City, or did Brentford offer the player better Ts & Cs, or did City's then management decide not to pursue him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 Toney would have been wasted in front of our midfield. Happy for the bloke that he went to Brentford and will be playing in the Prem next season one way or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 story i was told was toney was all agreed however deal went south due to mark ashton involvement with the finances! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevedon Red Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 Ah well, he wouldn’t have got anywhere near as many with us. We move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 Well, if it took 19 emails from Pboro to sign Szmodics then god knows how long Ashton would’ve taken to make his mind up on Toney. Besides. We missed our initial chance for him in 2012 when he was at Northampton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 9 minutes ago, 22A said: When City let Szmodics go to P'boro', there was speculation on this forum that it was a sweetener as Ivan Toney was a P'boro' player who wanted to move on and City were interested in him. In the end Ivan signed or Brentford; why? Did Brentford make a better offer than City, or did Brentford offer the player better Ts & Cs, or did City's then management decide not to pursue him? Whatever the reason, he made a good decision! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Harry said: Well, if it took 19 emails from Pboro to sign Szmodics then god knows how long Ashton would’ve taken to make his mind up on Toney. Can you elaborate on this @Harry? Surely Mark Ashton didn’t have every e-mail on divert unless it came from Ipswich or the States? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 Just now, TomThumb84 said: Can you elaborate on this @Harry? Surely Mark Ashton didn’t have every e-mail on divert unless it came from Ipswich or the States? Peterborough owners podcast last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 Massive load of revisionism here. We spent £1m in total last summer, all of it on Joe Williams, then we sold Szmodics & Eliasson for more than that. Due to the pandemic there wasn’t any chance of us buying Toney, who cost Brentford £8m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 Just now, Harry said: Peterborough owners podcast last week. Thanks, I missed it, although not sure I want to hear it. I have a very bad taste in my mouth currently with City and it will only make it worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 Just now, GrahamC said: Massive load of revisionism here. We spent £1m in total last summer, all of it on Joe Williams, then we sold Szmodics & Eliasson for more than that. Due to the pandemic there wasn’t any chance of us buying Toney, who cost Brentford £8m. oh there was and it wasn’t 8 million! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Harry said: Peterborough owners podcast last week. Ah that reliable source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 7 minutes ago, Harry said: Well, if it took 19 emails from Pboro to sign Szmodics then god knows how long Ashton would’ve taken to make his mind up on Toney. Besides. We missed our initial chance for him in 2012 when he was at Northampton Saw that. Really made me laugh. At what level of emails count do you not just pick up the phone and thrash it out over a call for 20-30 mins? Very odd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 1 minute ago, joe jordans teeth said: Ah that reliable source Slightly more credible than Mark Ashton and some of his disingenuous statements re: Holden appointment, injuries, contracts etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, frenchred said: oh there was and it wasn’t 8 million! How much was it then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, TomThumb84 said: Slightly more credible than Mark Ashton and some of his disingenuous statements re: Holden appointment, injuries, contracts etc Only slightly tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: How much was it then? 2 million less up front than the quoted 8 Just now, frenchred said: 2 million less up front than the quoted 8 it was little lee who had it all agreed and believe me it’s from a very good source! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 There’s absolutely no way in hell Ivan Toney would’ve scored 30 goals if he’d signed for us this season. I don’t even think he’d have got 20, and that’s assuming he stayed fit which was no guarantee under Rolls’ watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 1 minute ago, frenchred said: 2 million less up front than the quoted 8 So a Kasey Palmer and Gustav Engvall then for an Ivan Toney. I wonder if our credibility in the football world is at a low. There must be a number of managers who applied for the job when Holden got it who would never touch us again, and in turn anyone they work with won’t have a good opinion either. Plus the fact we are (despite the propaganda) a walk over in the transfer market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 1 minute ago, tin said: There’s absolutely no way in hell Ivan Toney would’ve scored 30 goals if he’d signed for us this season. I don’t even think he’d have got 20, and that’s assuming he stayed fit which was no guarantee under Rolls’ watch. Spot on,imagine Toney being asked to chase back and defend the left wing,that’s why fammy was so underrated here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 11 minutes ago, frenchred said: 2 million less up front than the quoted 8 it was little lee who had it all agreed and believe me it’s from a very good source! £6m then. Brentford were in a more advantageous position than us, assuming you mean Summer 2020 due to Watkins and Benrahma- they had headroom we may not have had. Who is to say a number of their signings would have come off here too. Toney, and I'd add given the criticism some of our mdifield options have had, would say Jensen or Norgaard have fitted with our 'style' whatever that might be- gotta think perhaps not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 Brentford were really the only team in the league in a position to sign Toney last summer. The teams coming down could have possibly but most want to get their house in order first and usually have a decent squad sticking around. Brentford sold two players for roughly 45m and spent 15% on Toney. Was a lot of money in covid times but Brentford had an extra 30 mil to fall back on. Not to mention their brand of football really helps their investments. If they don’t go up they will be asking for 30m or more for Toney. I would not be surprised if there will be reports they ask for 40m. Only his first season there so they will have the leverage. The success of Watkins will help too. Anyway, I think there was almost a 0% chance we could afford him last summer. And if it we could, for him to choose us over Brentford would make the possibility of him being in a Bristol City shirt 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1t_ref_again Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 Seem to remember, he was only interested in going to a London club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 Also worth stating that it's very different for a midfield if you've got a striker like Toney up front who you trust. Our midfielders haven't had that luxury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballwinningcentrehalf Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 1 minute ago, sh1t_ref_again said: Seem to remember, he was only interested in going to a London club Don't know if City had a real opportunity to sign him, but not sure this statement is quite true - Toney was keen on a move to Celtic and was even given a tour of the stadium and training facilities. In the end they were another side that wouldn't spend the money Peterborough wanted. Brentford has probably been the best move he could have made at the time, all things considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 29 minutes ago, Harry said: Well, if it took 19 emails from Pboro to sign Szmodics then god knows how long Ashton would’ve taken to make his mind up on Toney. Besides. We missed our initial chance for him in 2012 when he was at Northampton Lee Johnson had him on loan at Barnsley in 2015/16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 10 minutes ago, sh1t_ref_again said: Seem to remember, he was only interested in going to a London club Why’s that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 13 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: £6m then. Brentford were in a more advantageous position than us, assuming you mean Summer 2020 due to Watkins and Benrahma- they had headroom we may not have had. Who is to say a number of their signings would have come off here too. Toney, and I'd add given the criticism some of our mdifield options have had, would say Jensen or Norgaard have fitted with our 'style' whatever that might be- gotta think perhaps not. it was agreed before brentford had time to bid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 35 minutes ago, Harry said: Peterborough owners podcast last week. I’ve not listened to this one - i have only ever heard DA be complimentary about City and the way we conduct business Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 39 minutes ago, Harry said: Well, if it took 19 emails from Pboro to sign Szmodics then god knows how long Ashton would’ve taken to make his mind up on Toney. Besides. We missed our initial chance for him in 2012 when he was at Northampton And having had him at Barnsley, LJ didn’t see the potential in him at this level when he was having loans at Scunthorpe and Wigan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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