SuperRed Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 I wouldn’t be surprised if Nige just doesn’t rate him. He is massively overrated by some on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 34 minutes ago, richyy66 said: He was definitely training with the match day squad Thursday and finished the session.. He doesn't seem the confrontational type to me. "two footing Wells and ranting at him", "nose to nose with NP" - just seems out of character. Time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, SuperRed said: I wouldn’t be surprised if Nige just doesn’t rate him. He is massively overrated by some on here. Odd then, how he did well at other sides at this level and is age range wise approaching peak years for his position. 2 promotions, 2 playoffs- hell first year here he was good, CB in a reasonable International side. Maybe just maybe he has regressed here as we have often seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 15 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Pearson confirmed he was left out today, not rested. He was really poor last week (not unique in that) & so in truth I wasn’t surprised. I thought NP said the opposite - he needed a rest ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Musicworks Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 He was upset and emotional in that interview a few months back indicating that the pressure might have been getting to him. We see him as an alpha male type warrior and therefore are less inclined to see him being sensitive to criticism. Gregors questioning clearly riled him recently and the social media criticism from fans has been fairly intense lately. It may be that be something has happened behind the scenes as a result or maybe not but if it had then I would expect NP to protect him as a duty of care if he saw it as a health related issue. It may be nothing but it’s easy to forget the pressure that footballers can face these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmNick Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 Finally cancelled for not taking the knee by the woke left I heard, and the crime of derailing the match day thread as a result every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 17 minutes ago, JonDolman said: I didnt know he was on 22k. Thought it would be more than that. Well yeah it might not be that easy to sell him. Maybe Fulham if they were to sell a centre back and need a new one. Rumoured to be , I don’t know for sure . Baker was our highest earner until he came in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 2 hours ago, steviestevieneville said: Rumoured to be , I don’t know for sure . Baker was our highest earner until he came in Player Name Weekly Wage Yearly Salary Age Position Nationality Alfie Mawson £35,000 £1,820,000 26 D (C) England Nahki Wells £27,000 £1,404,000 30 ST (C) Bermuda Tomas Kalas £22,000 £1,144,000 27 D (RC) Czech Republic Famara Diédhiou £20,000 £1,040,000 27 ST (C) Senegal Nathan Baker £19,000 £988,000 29 D (C) England Andreas Weimann £18,000 £936,000 28 AM (RLC), ST (C) Austria Ádám Nagy £16,000 £832,000 25 DM, M (C) Hungary Daniel Bentley £14,000 £728,000 27 GK England Jack Hunt £13,000 £676,000 29 D/WB (R) England Joe Williams £10,000 £520,000 23 DM, M/AM (C) England Callum O'Dowda £8,400 £436,800 25 M/AM (RL) Ireland Chris Martin £8,400 £436,800 31 ST (C) Scotland Jay Dasilva £8,100 £421,200 22 D/WB (L) England Taylor Moore £7,600 £395,200 23 D (RC) England Adrian Mariappa £7,500 £390,000 33 D (RC) Jamaica Jamie Paterson £7,100 £369,200 28 M/AM (RLC) England Zak Vyner £6,000 £312,000 23 D (RC) England Liam Walsh £6,000 £312,000 22 DM, M (C) England Han-Noah Massengo £5,200 £270,400 19 DM, M (C) France Tommy Rowe £3,600 £187,200 31 D/WB (L), M (LC) England Antoine Semenyo £3,500 £182,000 20 AM (RL), ST (C) England Tyreeq Bakinson £2,600 £135,200 21 DM, M (C) England Max O'Leary £1,900 £98,800 23 GK England Steven Sessegnon £1,600 £83,200 20 D (RLC) England Jojo Wollacott £710 £36,920 23 GK England Rene Gilmartin £700 £36,400 33 GK Ireland Aden Baldwin £700 £36,400 23 D (RC) England Opi Edwards £660 £34,320 21 WB/M/AM (R) England Barney Soady £440 £22,880 18 D (RL), WB/M/AM (L) Wales Callum Pearson £430 £22,360 18 D (RC) Wales Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 3 hours ago, JonDolman said: Well Nige said in the week he wants more equality in players pay, for players to be in the same area earning wise. Kalas sold would free up wages and add some millions to the transfer kitty. So like Nige also was talking about in midweek - selling players can be a positive in allowing you to strengthen. Not the exact words, but something like that! 3 hours ago, steviestevieneville said: From a starting point as where we are now , you’d love to bring someone in of Kalas quality. However at £8m signing and reportedly on £22k per week , he’s not earning his coin. He’s a good player yes but he’s not a leader or organiser of a back 4 you’d want for that money . He needs a leader alongside him. With better financial prudence , you might be able to bring two players in on those wages combined for the same quality . Trouble is , who would match his wages , plus we’d take a massive hit on his transfer fee So, currently valued in the accounts at £4m. Anything less than that goes in as a loss in the accounts for FFP purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Street red Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 3 hours ago, SuperRed said: I wouldn’t be surprised if Nige just doesn’t rate him. He is massively overrated by some on here. Agreed definitely not worth 8 million alot like him and rate him I'm not just not a fan.. Been very disappointing you can see why he was sent out alot on loan at Chelsea over a long period of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Bong Posted May 9, 2021 Report Share Posted May 9, 2021 4 hours ago, Street red said: you can see why he was sent out alot on loan at Chelsea over a long period of time. They did it to make money, plus its very hard to get in the Chelsea squad but yes i get your point. He does have a lot of mistakes in him especially recently (plus the shenanigens I've heard) A really good defender on his day but Its probably best he moved on so we can rebuild in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted May 9, 2021 Report Share Posted May 9, 2021 8 hours ago, ashton_fan said: Player Name Weekly Wage Yearly Salary Age Position Nationality Alfie Mawson £35,000 £1,820,000 26 D (C) England Nahki Wells £27,000 £1,404,000 30 ST (C) Bermuda Tomas Kalas £22,000 £1,144,000 27 D (RC) Czech Republic Famara Diédhiou £20,000 £1,040,000 27 ST (C) Senegal Nathan Baker £19,000 £988,000 29 D (C) England Andreas Weimann £18,000 £936,000 28 AM (RLC), ST (C) Austria Ádám Nagy £16,000 £832,000 25 DM, M (C) Hungary Daniel Bentley £14,000 £728,000 27 GK England Jack Hunt £13,000 £676,000 29 D/WB (R) England Joe Williams £10,000 £520,000 23 DM, M/AM (C) England Callum O'Dowda £8,400 £436,800 25 M/AM (RL) Ireland Chris Martin £8,400 £436,800 31 ST (C) Scotland Jay Dasilva £8,100 £421,200 22 D/WB (L) England Taylor Moore £7,600 £395,200 23 D (RC) England Adrian Mariappa £7,500 £390,000 33 D (RC) Jamaica Jamie Paterson £7,100 £369,200 28 M/AM (RLC) England Zak Vyner £6,000 £312,000 23 D (RC) England Liam Walsh £6,000 £312,000 22 DM, M (C) England Han-Noah Massengo £5,200 £270,400 19 DM, M (C) France Tommy Rowe £3,600 £187,200 31 D/WB (L), M (LC) England Antoine Semenyo £3,500 £182,000 20 AM (RL), ST (C) England Tyreeq Bakinson £2,600 £135,200 21 DM, M (C) England Max O'Leary £1,900 £98,800 23 GK England Steven Sessegnon £1,600 £83,200 20 D (RLC) England Jojo Wollacott £710 £36,920 23 GK England Rene Gilmartin £700 £36,400 33 GK Ireland Aden Baldwin £700 £36,400 23 D (RC) England Opi Edwards £660 £34,320 21 WB/M/AM (R) England Barney Soady £440 £22,880 18 D (RL), WB/M/AM (L) Wales Callum Pearson £430 £22,360 18 D (RC) Wales I don’t know how accurate this is but if Taylor Moore is really on £7,500 per week then the game is gone. He’s not even a remotely average player at Championship level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted May 9, 2021 Report Share Posted May 9, 2021 11 hours ago, ashton_fan said: I think he's the only player in our squad who's been part of a team promoted from the Championship so we def need to keep him. He's suffered this season trying to cover the mistakes of his colleagues and is mentally shot but I expect him to recover and with better players alongside next season his form will return to the way it was previously, although we need to give the captaincy to someone else. Lansbury, Baker, Palmer, Simpson, Mariappa and technically Sessignon have all been part of promotion winning squads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted May 9, 2021 Report Share Posted May 9, 2021 15 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: I don’t know how accurate this is but if Taylor Moore is really on £7,500 per week then the game is gone. He’s not even a remotely average player at Championship level. I can’t see that being his current amount, didn’t he take a massive cut to stay here? Could see it being the amount he was on when he signed being England u20 and had been captain, coming from a Ligue 1 team etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted May 9, 2021 Report Share Posted May 9, 2021 12 hours ago, SuperRed said: I wouldn’t be surprised if Nige just doesn’t rate him. He is massively overrated by some on here. Nige was a defender himself so very well placed to assess the qualities of our defenders. To me Kalas is a bang average Championship CB and nothing more, maybe Nige thinks the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted May 9, 2021 Report Share Posted May 9, 2021 14 hours ago, WirralRobin said: Here's a random twitter rumour - No idea if anything in it........ If that is true ("IF"), surely it sounds like exactly the sort of passion that so many have been crying out for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted May 9, 2021 Report Share Posted May 9, 2021 13 hours ago, IAmNick said: Finally cancelled for not taking the knee by the woke left I heard, and the crime of derailing the match day thread as a result every week. Wow, you're well balanced by the chip on each shoulder. You know what "woke" means, don't you? Not standing for racism, sexism, etc...so, by definition, being "anti-woke" means you're fine with both... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted May 9, 2021 Report Share Posted May 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Lrrr said: I can’t see that being his current amount, didn’t he take a massive cut to stay here? Could see it being the amount he was on when he signed being England u20 and had been captain, coming from a Ligue 1 team etc He did halve his wages to secure an extra year, but he’s since signed a new 3+1 year deal (2nd Oct). At the time he was playing regularly, and playing ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted May 9, 2021 Report Share Posted May 9, 2021 13 minutes ago, SecretSam said: Wow, you're well balanced by the chip on each shoulder. You know what "woke" means, don't you? Not standing for racism, sexism, etc...so, by definition, being "anti-woke" means you're fine with both... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted May 9, 2021 Report Share Posted May 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, Northern Red said: Don't find racism funny, personally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmNick Posted May 9, 2021 Report Share Posted May 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, SecretSam said: Don't find racism funny, personally I suggest you go and read my posts on the thread in the politics forum. It was a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuber Posted May 9, 2021 Report Share Posted May 9, 2021 1 hour ago, MarcusX said: Lansbury, Baker, Palmer, Simpson, Mariappa and technically Sessignon have all been part of promotion winning squads Where did Lansbury get promoted? If we're judging by getting the medal based on appearances over the course of the season. I dont count Villa. Season they went up, he played three (yes, 3) games. And was routinely shunted to train with the U23s due to attitude under Smith. Baker was relegated with Villa. Never promoted however. Palmer, at Hudds, correct. Simpson - Twice promoted with Newcastle and QPR. Mapps, unless I'm mistaken, has been relegated twice from PL, but never promoted when actually in a squad. Sessognon scrapes it with 14 appearances in 19-20. No technically about it. In terms of players experiencing, or being apart of a team being promoted at any level, it's Bentley (Southend, L2), Kalas (Middlesbrough, CH, Fulham, CH), Hunt (Huddersfield, L1), Wells (Bradford, L2, Huddersfield, CH), Martin (Norwich, CH), Walsh (Coventry, L1), Watkins (Barnsley, L1), Rowe (Stockport, L2, Peterboro, L1), and I believe that's it. So in summary, in terms of experience of promotion from this level, it's Palmer, Kalas, Wells, Martin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexhill reds Posted May 9, 2021 Report Share Posted May 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, SecretSam said: Don't find racism funny, personally I find it best when digging a hole to sometimes step out of it, have a cup of tea and reflect on whether you should continue digging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted May 9, 2021 Report Share Posted May 9, 2021 10 hours ago, ashton_fan said: Player Name Weekly Wage Yearly Salary Age Position Nationality Alfie Mawson £35,000 £1,820,000 26 D (C) England Nahki Wells £27,000 £1,404,000 30 ST (C) Bermuda Tomas Kalas £22,000 £1,144,000 27 D (RC) Czech Republic Famara Diédhiou £20,000 £1,040,000 27 ST (C) Senegal Nathan Baker £19,000 £988,000 29 D (C) England Andreas Weimann £18,000 £936,000 28 AM (RLC), ST (C) Austria Ádám Nagy £16,000 £832,000 25 DM, M (C) Hungary Daniel Bentley £14,000 £728,000 27 GK England Jack Hunt £13,000 £676,000 29 D/WB (R) England Joe Williams £10,000 £520,000 23 DM, M/AM (C) England Callum O'Dowda £8,400 £436,800 25 M/AM (RL) Ireland Chris Martin £8,400 £436,800 31 ST (C) Scotland Jay Dasilva £8,100 £421,200 22 D/WB (L) England Taylor Moore £7,600 £395,200 23 D (RC) England Adrian Mariappa £7,500 £390,000 33 D (RC) Jamaica Jamie Paterson £7,100 £369,200 28 M/AM (RLC) England Zak Vyner £6,000 £312,000 23 D (RC) England Liam Walsh £6,000 £312,000 22 DM, M (C) England Han-Noah Massengo £5,200 £270,400 19 DM, M (C) France Tommy Rowe £3,600 £187,200 31 D/WB (L), M (LC) England Antoine Semenyo £3,500 £182,000 20 AM (RL), ST (C) England Tyreeq Bakinson £2,600 £135,200 21 DM, M (C) England Max O'Leary £1,900 £98,800 23 GK England Steven Sessegnon £1,600 £83,200 20 D (RLC) England Jojo Wollacott £710 £36,920 23 GK England Rene Gilmartin £700 £36,400 33 GK Ireland Aden Baldwin £700 £36,400 23 D (RC) England Opi Edwards £660 £34,320 21 WB/M/AM (R) England Barney Soady £440 £22,880 18 D (RL), WB/M/AM (L) Wales Callum Pearson £430 £22,360 18 D (RC) Wales I have known only one players wages, for certain, in my entire life. They are on this list, and it is highly inaccurate. Which throws the rest of it in to disrepute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted May 9, 2021 Report Share Posted May 9, 2021 2 hours ago, MarcusX said: Lansbury, Baker, Palmer, Simpson, Mariappa and technically Sessignon have all been part of promotion winning squads Baker wasn't involved in any Villa promotion but he did play quite a few games in the Prem for them. Palmer made 24 appearances for Huddersfield when they got promoted, Mariappa played in 3 games for Watford in their 05/06 promotion, Sessignon's not our player and you're thinking of Ryan not Steven, Simpson's never played in a Championship promotion team, Lansbury made 10 appearances for Villa at the start of their promotion season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted May 9, 2021 Report Share Posted May 9, 2021 7 minutes ago, Banned User said: I have known only one players wages, for certain, in my entire life. They are on this list, and it is highly inaccurate. Which throws the rest of it in to disrepute. I got these from https://salarysport.com/football/sky-bet-championship/bristol-city/ Which player do you think is wrong, most of them are what I would have expected? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted May 9, 2021 Report Share Posted May 9, 2021 1 minute ago, ashton_fan said: I got these from https://salarysport.com/football/sky-bet-championship/bristol-city/ Which player do you think is wrong, most of them are what I would have expected? I won't say the players name, just in case, but I would bet my life savings that my figure is true. The source is my (future) in-laws, they also know the player very well personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted May 9, 2021 Report Share Posted May 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Banned User said: I won't say the players name, just in case, but I would bet my life savings that my figure is true. The source is my (future) in-laws, they also know the player very well personally. So how much do you think it's out by (percentage)? Is it one of the higher earners or one of the juniors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted May 9, 2021 Report Share Posted May 9, 2021 Just now, ashton_fan said: So how much do you think it's out by (percentage)? Is it one of the higher earners or one of the juniors? I really don't want to say too much (especially with the legal trouble OTIB has had recently), but one of the players gets a lot more than that site says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted May 9, 2021 Report Share Posted May 9, 2021 Just now, Banned User said: I really don't want to say too much (especially with the legal trouble OTIB has had recently), but one of the players gets a lot more than that site says. What legal trouble? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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