Fordy62 Posted May 10, 2021 Report Share Posted May 10, 2021 Baker - No contract offer Mariappa- No contract offer Rowe- No contract offer Hunt- No contract offer Watkins- No contract offer Walsh- I think a contract will be offered but he’ll leave to go elsewhere. Simpson- I think Pearson will keep him as backup - 1 year deal. Gilmartin- No contract offer Lansbury- No contract offer Diedhiou- won’t sign contract offer Weinmann- New 2+1 deal Paterson- No contract offer (I certainly hope) Adelakun - No contract offer so I only see us keeping Weimann & Simpson, although I’ll be surprised if we don’t offer Walsh a new one. 20 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said: Baker - Keep Mariappa- Gone Rowe- Gone Hunt- Gone Watkins- Gone Walsh- Keep Simpson- Keep Gilmartin- Gone Lansbury- Gone Diedhiou- Gone Weinmann- Keep Paterson- Gone Adelakun - Gone I’d be ecstatic if we kept those 4 players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted May 10, 2021 Report Share Posted May 10, 2021 Baker - Gone - 15 games per season isn't enough. Mariappa- Keep - Solid enough for cover. Rowe- Gone Hunt- Gone Watkins- Gone Walsh- Keep - Potential. Simpson- Keep - Cover RB. Gilmartin- Gone Lansbury- Gone Diedhiou- Gone Weimann- Keep - Versatile, hard-working, eye for a goal. Paterson- Gone Adelakun - Gone If it was up to me anyway. Which is very much isn't. Squad needs a good trim! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2015 Posted May 10, 2021 Report Share Posted May 10, 2021 Baker - Gone Mariappa - Gone Rowe - Gone Hunt - Gone Watkins - Gone Walsh - Gone Simpson - Keep Gilmartin - Gone Lansbury - Gone Diedhiou - Gone Weimann - Keep Paterson - Gone Adelakun - Gone Is what I would do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey 6 Posted May 10, 2021 Report Share Posted May 10, 2021 Baker - Gone - Too costly to keep around with his availability. I think we will look elswhere Mariappa- Gone - I know he's worked with NP in the past, but he's getting on now, he's got next to no pace & hasn't been great recently. Rowe- Gone - He's done a reasonable job when standing in for Dasilva, been a decent signing on a free, didn't expect much at all but getting on and I think we can improve on him. Hunt- Gone - This season he's not looked great, he's not managed to get his 5/6 assists he usually gets either to offset his poor defensive ability. Watkins- Gone - Never really had a run at City, stuck up for him quite a bit these past couple of years, didn't think he was great, but wasn't as bad as people made out but little point in keeping him, had a few spells out injured as well. Walsh- Gone - Not sure how happy he's been with his treatment this season, heard a few little bits. Not too sure if Rolls leaving will mean he considers staying, but a few weeks ago I heard he could be off to Derby if they stayed up. Simpson- Keep - Pearson will want a few players he 'trusts' to use a LJ phrase. Expect it'll only be a 1 year deal. Gilmartin- Gone - Never played, he's assistant manager in the U23's though, so perhaps offered terms for that role. Lansbury- Keep - I get a feeling NP likes him, he's stuck up for him in a couple of interviews. Could be dependent on Walsh staying/going Diedhiou- Gone - I think he's had a move lined up for a while. All the best to him. Weinmann- Keep - Year option, 100er, think he's a decent character to keep around but hopefully not a guaranteed starter. Paterson- Gone - I think he will go because NP hasn't seen him, and I don't think he's consistently good enough to be offered a deal either. Adelakun - Keep - As Gregor mentioned in his article the other day, he has a year option & there will surely be a market for him in League 1, perhaps we extend to make some money rather than losing for nothing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted May 10, 2021 Report Share Posted May 10, 2021 OK! Personal prejudices to one side. Who do people think is a Pearson ‘type’ player? Then go through your list again, taking into account age and injury history and value to a Pearson style team and then review your list and see what happens. Then look at who we may get offers for that the club would accept Then when that’s done. Its a matter of who looks good preseason and who consequently gets told they are not in the managers plan....remember form is nearly everything along with doing what Pearson wants! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted May 10, 2021 Report Share Posted May 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, REDOXO said: OK! Personal prejudices to one side. Who do people think is a Pearson ‘type’ player? Then go through your list again, taking into account age and injury history and value to a Pearson style team and then review your list and see what happens. Then look at who we may get offers for that the club would accept Then when that’s done. Its a matter of who looks good preseason and who consequently gets told they are not in the managers plan....remember form is nearly everything along with doing what Pearson wants! All the players on this list are out of contract. Offers aren't relevant and neither is pre-season as they will only be around then if offered a deal. There's obviously a further question about what happens to under contract players but we have to decide one way or another on these 13 this week... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted May 10, 2021 Report Share Posted May 10, 2021 Baker - gone Mariappa- gone Rowe- Gone Hunt- Gone Watkins- Gone Walsh- gone Simpson- gone Gilmartin- Gone Lansbury- gone Diedhiou- Gone Weinmann- Keep Paterson- Keep Adelakun - gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted May 10, 2021 Report Share Posted May 10, 2021 1 hour ago, David Brent said: I’m hoping the meeting goes a little like this. I’d be offering deals to Weimann, Walsh and Baker. Though I suspect that Simpson will be offered one too. I'm hoping it is more like this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted May 10, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2021 20 minutes ago, REDOXO said: OK! Personal prejudices to one side. Who do people think is a Pearson ‘type’ player? Then go through your list again, taking into account age and injury history and value to a Pearson style team and then review your list and see what happens. Then look at who we may get offers for that the club would accept Then when that’s done. Its a matter of who looks good preseason and who consequently gets told they are not in the managers plan....remember form is nearly everything along with doing what Pearson wants! That sort of was the question I asked...it's a tricky one, looking into the mind of Nige... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted May 10, 2021 Report Share Posted May 10, 2021 1 hour ago, TonyTonyTony said: More importantly, lets say 9 or 10 of those go - how many players from other clubs / OOC are already lined up as replacements. Nerve wracking to let so many go without replacements in place. Interesting summer coming up! That’s what you get if you let Mark Ashton have too much control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted May 10, 2021 Report Share Posted May 10, 2021 Baker - Offer reduced terms or pay-as-you-play Mariappa - Release Rowe - Release Hunt - Release Watkins - Release Walsh - Keep, two-year deal Simpson - Unsure, one-year player/coach role? Are we really going to sign two new RBs? Cant' see it Gilmartin - Release Lansbury - Release Diedhiou - Release Weimann - Trigger one-year extension and keep Paterson - Release Adelakun - Trigger one-year extension and sell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted May 10, 2021 Report Share Posted May 10, 2021 I think the club should announce the lot as retained..... just for the reaction on here and announce the real list about an hour later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted May 10, 2021 Report Share Posted May 10, 2021 23 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said: All the players on this list are out of contract. Offers aren't relevant and neither is pre-season as they will only be around then if offered a deal. Really! You just said OFFERS are not relevant as they will only be around then if OFFERED a deal! The point was who on that list is a Pearson player as I think there is at least one that everyone thinks has no chance does in fact have a chance dependent on fitness. There's obviously a further question about what happens to under contract players but we have to decide one way or another on these 13 this week... Obviously the out of contract situation is paramount. The under contract players, guess what, have contracts! What happens with them is a factor of offers, pre season training and any unwanted players then are advised they are not in the managers plans, at which time they and the club try and find them football and/or let them run down their contract.......But thanks for your help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agard Days Night Posted May 10, 2021 Report Share Posted May 10, 2021 Liam Walsh is OOC in the summer IIRC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted May 10, 2021 Report Share Posted May 10, 2021 1 hour ago, TonyTonyTony said: More importantly, lets say 9 or 10 of those go - how many players from other clubs / OOC are already lined up as replacements. Nerve wracking to let so many go without replacements in place. Interesting summer coming up! I think another question is how many we actually need? Eight of those players - Walsh, Baker, Watkins, Weimann, Gilmartin, Simpson, Paterson and Adelakun have all not featured that much for different reasons. Pearson has said he wants a smaller squad and, with players back from injury, we'd arguably be better off with four quality replacements rather than directly replacing everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted May 10, 2021 Report Share Posted May 10, 2021 21 minutes ago, SecretSam said: That sort of was the question I asked...it's a tricky one, looking into the mind of Nige... Exactly! To put myself in Pearsons mind as best as I can, he will want Weimann. Walsh is everyone’s pick here but he does have Williams and I keep hearing Walsh will not sign. Baker keeps getting mentioned, I reckon is 50-50, Pearson still sleeping on that! The wildcard for me is Watkins....Not sure what he will do there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted May 10, 2021 Report Share Posted May 10, 2021 12 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said: I think another question is how many we actually need? Eight of those players - Walsh, Baker, Watkins, Weimann, Gilmartin, Simpson, Paterson and Adelakun have all not featured that much for different reasons. Pearson has said he wants a smaller squad and, with players back from injury, we'd arguably be better off with four quality replacements rather than directly replacing everyone. A quick peek on the city website shows we have 38 players in the squad. Wasn't there a ruling to cap the squad size to 25, or has that been canned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted May 10, 2021 Report Share Posted May 10, 2021 1 minute ago, TonyTonyTony said: A quick peek on the city website shows we have 38 players in the squad. Wasn't there a ruling to cap the squad size to 25, or has that been canned? With that I think we'ed struggle to find 11 fit players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted May 10, 2021 Report Share Posted May 10, 2021 1 minute ago, TonyTonyTony said: A quick peek on the city website shows we have 38 players in the squad. Wasn't there a ruling to cap the squad size to 25, or has that been canned? No - that is right. I think players under a certain age don't count. Possibly 21, but quite a few of our young players are 22 or 23 so I think players like Pring, Bakinson and Cundy, for example, would have to be registered as part of the 25 to be used next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_unreliant Posted May 10, 2021 Report Share Posted May 10, 2021 27 minutes ago, Davefevs said: That’s what you get if you let Mark Ashton have too much control. Do we know though if it was MA who made the decision not to offer contracts. I can see SL looking at a season with no revenue last summer and predicting a massive drop in wages this summer. It would be the kind of financial strategy I can see being very much driven by him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted May 10, 2021 Report Share Posted May 10, 2021 On another not to related note. The lad who scored on Saturday is he out of contract? I seem to remember interest from WBA as he was! Anyone know the score there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted May 10, 2021 Report Share Posted May 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Red-Robbo said: I'm hoping it is more like this: What a cast, what a film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.D Posted May 10, 2021 Report Share Posted May 10, 2021 Baker - Gone Mariappa- Gone Rowe- Gone Hunt- Gone Watkins- Gone Walsh- Keep Simpson- Keep 1 year Gilmartin- Gone Lansbury- Gone Diedhiou- Gone Weimann- Keepn 1 year Paterson- Gone Adelakun - Gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted May 10, 2021 Report Share Posted May 10, 2021 I’d be disappointed if we kept more than 3 of that list. Baker - no point as usually injured. Not paying him 20k a week to be available 60-70% of the time in a good year. Pass Mariappa - I am all for experienced players but he will be 35 during next season. Pass Simpson - same as Mariappa pass Rowe - not a good enough backup at any position even though versatile. He really regressed after his injury. 33 next season so pass Hunt - I have stuck with him for a long time but this season was a big regression on what was at best slightly above average RB. Pass Watkins - I think he is useful but often injured and probably on a surprisingly high wage. Not paying that for backup. Pass Lansbury - I can see merit to it. Think he started to show some signs of life. Played as a holding midfielder which I don’t think he is though. So I’ll pass and look for a more suitable type to that position who can run a game like NP seems to want. Gilmartin - pass Walsh - I’d pass personally. Could regret it but I get the feeling he expects to play week in and week out but has never shown enough consistency with us for it. However, if NP offers him a deal then I’ll trust his judgement. Fam - think he has been gone for awhile now. I think the stick he is receiving is a bit OTT as he is a striker in the worst attacking team in championship history(could tell it that way with the shots stat). But anyway pass Weimann - extending. I used to hate the excuse about weimann being a worker when his quality let us down. I also had some expectation of football being played. Now, I think we need that graft and experience over the next 2 seasons. Keep Paterson - when pato and weimann went down injured is when our season really went up into flames. I’ll get the he isn’t consistent but he hasn’t been in a consistent position to get the best from him. 5 goals and 7 assists in half a season central with Bobby Reid. Hell he was at a goal contribution every 4 games (2 goals 3 assists in 20 compared to Palmer 3 goals 2 assists in 35) this season in a bad attacking side. He is a Bristol City level attacking player. If he was any better he’d be at a better club. I am keeping as a squad option. Adelakun - pass. Could regret it but think less chance than Walsh that we’d regret. So for me I’d keep Weimann and Paterson 100%. Can be persuaded into Walsh and a lesser extent Lansbury. Everyone else can just go and we rebuild with what is here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citywest30 Posted May 10, 2021 Report Share Posted May 10, 2021 3 hours ago, SecretSam said: Decisions this week. Whom do you think Nige will keep? Baker - Keep Mariappa- Keep Rowe- Gone Hunt- Gone Watkins- Gone Walsh- Keep Simpson- Keep Gilmartin- Gone Lansbury- Keep Diedhiou- Gone Weinmann- Keep Paterson- Keep Adelakun - Gone I can't for one second believe he'd want to keep over half of those. I think it'll be 3 or 4 at most. This is his chance to build his own wage budget and some of those are serious earners. As for the Walsh issue, I don't get it. What has he done to make so many want him to stay? I'm fairly sure Pearson will know the type of midfielders he wants and that is the one area where a lot of the current ones are in contract so he won't have as much wiggle room. I think he'll want to clear out those he cam and get his own in. I'd like to see Matty James and Barry Bannan in personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted May 10, 2021 Report Share Posted May 10, 2021 1 hour ago, REDOXO said: Exactly! To put myself in Pearsons mind as best as I can, he will want Weimann. Walsh is everyone’s pick here but he does have Williams and I keep hearing Walsh will not sign. Baker keeps getting mentioned, I reckon is 50-50, Pearson still sleeping on that! The wildcard for me is Watkins....Not sure what he will do there! I’m not sure NP eventually finding Marley Watkins hiding in the HPC after a hunt for him, followed by “go and tell your effin agent agent to start finding you a new club” correlates with wildcard and that he might still be here. Rumoured conversation 51 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said: No - that is right. I think players under a certain age don't count. Possibly 21, but quite a few of our young players are 22 or 23 so I think players like Pring, Bakinson and Cundy, for example, would have to be registered as part of the 25 to be used next year. U21 at start of season must be registered but do not need to be in the 25 man squad. Massengo for example is not in the 25 man squad list. Pring was over 21 anyway, but was not included in the 25 man squad as injured with little chance of being fit….hence u23 apps only of late. Nor was Weimann either. 51 minutes ago, robin_unreliant said: Do we know though if it was MA who made the decision not to offer contracts. I can see SL looking at a season with no revenue last summer and predicting a massive drop in wages this summer. It would be the kind of financial strategy I can see being very much driven by him. Board / owner decision….so SL very much culpable. 46 minutes ago, REDOXO said: On another not to related note. The lad who scored on Saturday is he out of contract? I seem to remember interest from WBA as he was! Anyone know the score there? Club exercised their year option. Wouldn’t surprise me if they opened talks on a longer deal this summer. Expecting deals for Towler and Pearson too this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted May 10, 2021 Report Share Posted May 10, 2021 1 minute ago, citywest30 said: I can't for one second believe he'd want to keep over half of those. I think it'll be 3 or 4 at most. This is his chance to build his own wage budget and some of those are serious earners. As for the Walsh issue, I don't get it. What has he done to make so many want him to stay? I'm fairly sure Pearson will know the type of midfielders he wants and that is the one area where a lot of the current ones are in contract so he won't have as much wiggle room. I think he'll want to clear out those he cam and get his own in. I'd like to see Matty James and Barry Bannon in personally. Pearson talked very enthusiastically about Walsh, so good chance he may want him to stay. Whether he does or not is a different matter. Matty James looking like he’s staying at Coventry. Which might in a funny way lessen Walsh’s options! I prefer to ignore your other suggestion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted May 10, 2021 Report Share Posted May 10, 2021 Why would we keep Mariappa? He's a second centre half and not the dominating ball winner. If NP keeps Baker, he could be the ball winner but he is not the organising type. We have enough second centre half's with Vyner, Moore, Kalas. And I'd keep Cundy here as centre half back up. A defensive right back plus aforementioned ball winner are the two we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted May 10, 2021 Report Share Posted May 10, 2021 17 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I’m not sure NP eventually finding Marley Watkins hiding in the HPC after a hunt for him, followed by “go and tell your effin agent agent to start finding you a new club” correlates with wildcard and that he might still be here. Rumoured conversation U21 at start of season must be registered but do not need to be in the 25 man squad. Massengo for example is not in the 25 man squad list. Pring was over 21 anyway, but was not included in the 25 man squad as injured with little chance of being fit….hence u23 apps only of late. Nor was Weimann either. Board / owner decision….so SL very much culpable. Club exercised their year option. Wouldn’t surprise me if they opened talks on a longer deal this summer. Expecting deals for Towler and Pearson too this summer. Well if that rumor has a grain of truth then that is that then! L M F A O! Would love to have seen it! Good to know about the extension...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted May 10, 2021 Report Share Posted May 10, 2021 Picking up the best part of 7 juicy ones each week and caught hiding in the High Performance Centre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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