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58 minutes ago, One Team said:

Great to see that lot moving on, hopefully a couple more will leave too. 

NP clearly highlighting who were the players he didn’t rate and making clear decisions already which is great to see.

Note these are only the ones out of contract, so much easier to let go. The interesting thing will be which of those under contract he doesn’t rate.

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8 minutes ago, Loco Rojo said:

Looking at the BBC teams are release a large amount of players. I know it happens at this time of year but is the amount clubs are releasing on the higher side than normal? Due to COVID/financial impacts on football?

Of course. It's a matter of turning it into a buyer's market. 

Players ooc have to live with that fear of no club wanting them and so make less demands. This forces wages down to the level clubs can afford as well as transfer fees being removed. 

This is why you suspect Weimann is being offered less than he is on now. I'd give him 2/ 3 weeks then withdraw any offer. 

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2 hours ago, TomThumb84 said:

I hope we keep Wells, play to his strengths and utilise his ability.

When he was such a popular member of the Bradford, Huddersfield, and QPR dressing rooms, you have to wonder where the problem actually sits.

Maybe his slightly frustrated demeanour is in (until Nigel Pearson joined and Mark Ashton left) the fact that having played for proper clubs he had joined a basket-case one, and was a striker playing in a side that created a record-breaking lack of chances.

Just a thought.

And stuck out wide.

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4 hours ago, Fordy62 said:

Agreed. The epitome of a busy bee - I feel a bit sick. 

We definitely don’t need busy bees. In cold, rainy weather bees tend to take the day off and stay in the hive. We need players who can perform on a could winter Wednesday night in Middlesbrough 

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2 hours ago, Robbored said:

Hang on.............:cool2:

Im not questioning his credentials at all. He’s clearly has an impressive CV including a football background. 
I was simply pointing out that when he was at AG some years ago he took plenty of stick on here from various posters in his role as commercial manager.

I remember meeting him once at a function of some sort in the old Williams Stand. That was about the only time that I had anything to do with him.

 

No, you said... "He was the Commercial manager at AG a few years ago. He wasn’t particularly good in that role.", then when asked to substantiate you backed it up with heresay and rumour.

 

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Easy way to remember the 11, they form a 4-4-2...

Gilmartin: Hunt, Mariappa, Baker, Rowe: Adelakun, Walsh, Lansbury, Paterson: Fam, Watkins.

Completely pointless post but amused me slightly.

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12 minutes ago, BCFCGav said:

Easy way to remember the 11, they form a 4-4-2...

Gilmartin: Hunt, Mariappa, Baker, Rowe: Adelakun, Walsh, Lansbury, Paterson: Fam, Watkins.

Completely pointless post but amused me slightly.

Nice one - and what a sh!t team it is. Which tells us quite a lot. 

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14 minutes ago, BCFCGav said:

Easy way to remember the 11, they form a 4-4-2...

Gilmartin: Hunt, Mariappa, Baker, Rowe: Adelakun, Walsh, Lansbury, Paterson: Fam, Watkins.

Completely pointless post but amused me slightly.

Still better than R*vers.

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13 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said:

He's on the touchline coaching them right now. So I assume he is staying on as a coach but has just been officially released as a player.

Not how I see it.

I think he was a coach this season because if we registered him as a player then he took up a space that we needed for someone who actually might play.

Harper was on the pitch for the U23s today and he has been released.

If Gilmartin was staying on as a coach then the retained list announcement would have said that.

Think he’s gone.

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1 hour ago, Loco Rojo said:

Looking at the BBC teams are release a large amount of players. I know it happens at this time of year but is the amount clubs are releasing on the higher side than normal? Due to COVID/financial impacts on football?

Makes sense 

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4 hours ago, Robbored said:

It wasn’t me personally that he didn’t impress - I had nothing much to with him but I do remember him getting plenty of stick on here from other posters about various parts of the job that he didn’t seem to do well at.

Maybe some of the other long term otib posters will remember.........:dunno:

Beep beep beep beep 

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2 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Well that article in Football Insider was numerically accurate then. 11 out!

Bit surprised about Simpson given the age thing, how dynamic can a side be with a 34 year old at right back?

In terms of the outs, I know he's been out for much of the season but all the same a bit surprised about Walsh. He was (IIRC) Coventry's player of the Season in 2019/20, albeit in League One but promoted all the same! He has room for growth too given his age...our loss (fitness permitting) might well be someone's gain.

In the very limited minutes we saw from him, he looked more athletic than Hunt (who was steady, admittedly rarely got injured).  With a pre-season behind him, I think he will provide good cover.

What remains to be seen is whether Pearson sees Vyner as his no1 RB, or whether he’s planning to bring in a first choice.  I’m sure Simpson is gonna be a 1 year deal, on the basis NP can’t build Rome in one day, and thinks Simpson as cover can tide us over until next summer.

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6 hours ago, Robbored said:

Two reasons - Nige knows what he’ll bring having worked with him previously and Nige also knows what influence Simpson will have both on and off the pitch.

He’s exactly what the team needs - an experienced and capable defender. We need another three or four that fit that criteria.

This summer window is going to be truly fascinating.

I know why he's keeping him. I just don't agree.

I saw nothing from him in the minutes he played to suggest he's the answer. He's 34 and has started 29 matches in three seasons.

Full backs need to be either excellent defenders or good at getting up and down the line. They need to be fit, athletic and have some pace. 

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3 hours ago, AG City said:

11 may have gone, but we still have...

O'Dowda, Wells, Martin, Semenyo, Massengo, Williams, Dasilva, Kalas, Bentley, Vyner, Bakinson, O'Leary, Moore, Palmer, Nagy, and probably Weimann and Simpson.  

That's 17 players, along with the youngsters like...

Conway, Britton, Scott, Pring, Janneh, Edwards, Towler

4 quality additions needed for me, no filling the squad up again with has beens, journeymen and lower league Lee Johnson style 'punts'

Four additions to that lot & we’ll be bottom of the league imo. The kids are not ready for a full year of championship football . Add to that Nagy, Palmer, not sure on Vyner unless he nails down a position , he still has lots to learn , O’Leary , Moore are in my opinion lower championship/ league one players . Slightly harsh on Nagy but he still hasn’t shown what type of midfielder he really is. 
we need a lot more than four & a major step up in attitude intensity & quality and that’s just to finish mid table . 

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6 hours ago, Phileas Fogg said:

Not really, Pearson knows and trusts him. He can be relied on to be a solid option at RB. He's already here and is on a free. I can understand the logic in it. 

We'll see. 

So solid that he's only started 29 games in three seasons. And he's 34.

But in Nige we trust...the man who had worryingly little effect on the team's organisation, will to win, or creativity since arriving.  

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3 hours ago, Robbored said:

Hang on.............:cool2:

Im not questioning his credentials at all. He’s clearly has an impressive CV including a football background. 
I was simply pointing out that when he was at AG some years ago he took plenty of stick on here from various posters in his role as commercial manager.

I remember meeting him once at a function of some sort in the old Williams Stand. That was about the only time that I had anything to do with him.

You stated “he wasn’t particularly good in that role “ 

you didn’t say I heard he wasn’t particularly good . 

But  as soon as you saw he’s a ex tank commander you had flash backs of Gary Johnson beating you up in his office & shit yourself , so started back tracking . 

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59 minutes ago, Bob Turnip said:

 

No, you said... "He was the Commercial manager at AG a few years ago. He wasn’t particularly good in that role.", then when asked to substantiate you backed it up with heresay and rumour.

 

Yeah.......and?   Are you suggesting that we don’t see hearsay and rumour on here?

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Glad this has all been sorted and a lot of players have been moved on. Frees up a lot of wages for us to get players who hopefully will perform consistently better. Needed for a long time. Too many players that took it too easy. Can’t wait for the summer now, hopefully 4/5 quality signings then some back ups and we should be in a much more stronger position for the start of the season

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4 hours ago, Robbored said:

He was the Commercial manager at AG a few years ago. He wasn’t particularly good in that role. 

Can you specify how he failed to impress? He went from that to being CEO at Soms, hardly the sign of someone who's doing badly.

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2 minutes ago, Robbored said:

Yeah.......and?   Are you suggesting that we don’t see hearsay and rumour on here?

It's a bit much when it's questioning someone's professional abilities. You literally said Gould was no good at his job, then didn't back it up.

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3 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said:

You stated “he wasn’t particularly good in that role “ 

you didn’t say I heard he wasn’t particularly good . 

But  as soon as you saw he’s a ex tank commander you had flash backs of Gary Johnson beating you up in his office & shit yourself , so started back tracking . 

Jeez.............:sleeping:

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5 hours ago, Lrrr said:

Pearson said he likes working with a reduced squad, 5/6 added to the 18 listed below would leave you with a 23/24 man squad before any of the younger players may be sticking around the first team squad like Scott, Conway, Pearson etc, any departures from the list of 18 would obviously mean an incoming but I don't think 5 or 6 is an unrealistic number atm as Pearson said it wouldn't be a 1 summer fix. 

Edit - And that's before Weimann and Simpson added as well so 25/26 man squad with them.

  1. Dan Bentley
  2. Robbie Cundy
  3. Tomas Kalas
  4. Chris Martin
  5. Taylor Moore
  6. Ádám Nagy
  7. Callum O’Dowda
  8. Max O’Leary

I like the idea of Max being our #8. Takes me back to the Billy Mercer days.

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