Davefevs Posted July 4, 2021 Report Share Posted July 4, 2021 7 minutes ago, JonDolman said: Yeah he certainly has improvements to make that hopefully comes with experience, but he has all the ingredients to be a top player. Actually has a good leap on him in the air too and is obviously tall, but needs to physically develop a bit more to be a really dominant centre half. All things that are to be expected considering his age and how he's only had 1 year playing at professional level. The player he might become in 1-3 years time I doubt we'd be able to sign now. Wouldn't surprise me if Baker and Kalas is our main partnership to start with. Yep, good enough to play, but wouldn’t surprise me if him and Baker share more minutes than some might think, at least pre-Xmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted July 4, 2021 Report Share Posted July 4, 2021 1 hour ago, BS4 on Tour... said: It’s increasingly difficult to fact check though - you probably got that 39 figure from Atkinson’s Wiki page? Well that same page says he made his professional debut for Oxford in October 2020 - which is rubbish, he played in league games before that. And Oxford’s wiki page for the 2020/2021 season states that Atkinson made 36 league appearances last season ... ?! There are so many and varied sources these days - however, as you say, it’s still no excuse for The Post to apparently come up with the ‘ever present’ guff - for a start, Atkinson was sent off in Oxford’s game vs Lincoln in September 2020 - so it didn’t look good for an ever present campaign at that point! Soccerbase, which is pretty good for most European leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted July 4, 2021 Report Share Posted July 4, 2021 6 hours ago, Nicki's soulmate said: The same with Andy King, I remember when he was moved along by a cop whilst being interviewed on the touchline, Leicester Everton? in the '70's (Another one for the oldies) 6 hours ago, Norn Iron said: I saw Andy King make his debut as a youngster for Luton Town before his transfer to Everton. A fantastic player with flare (not the Section 82 varient). He sadly passed away a couple of years ago. Mass of curly hair? I remember him sat in the Grandstand (he wasn't playing that day ) Everton( ?) gave us a tonking and he was just sat there grinning inanely at us enclosure bods, we told him to **** right off , as you do ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted July 4, 2021 Report Share Posted July 4, 2021 4 hours ago, daored said: @Major Isewateri think we’re going to sign a striker that might surprise a few. The home kit still to be revealed and imagine it will with said player I'm not getting over-excited with the striker but I think the good thing, given strikers tend to be the most expensive players, is that we've got the other four players we wanted to Pearson and the club will know exactly how much budget there is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted July 4, 2021 Report Share Posted July 4, 2021 I totally agree with all the positivity. He looks the part, sounds the part and if he fulfils his potential we'll do very well put of the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted July 4, 2021 Report Share Posted July 4, 2021 4 hours ago, GrahamC said: Soccerbase, which is pretty good for most European leagues. Fair play Graham - I was just making the point that even if a junior journo at The Post did a search to get his appearances figure, they would have been met with different numbers from different sources - in the good old days a gnarly old hack would have simply phoned up Oxford United and said ‘ere mate, how many games did that Atkinson play for you last season? ... Cheers” - doesn’t happen like that anymore - sometimes old fashioned and traditional is best - I certainly argue that when receiving criticism from my partner about my dress sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted July 4, 2021 Report Share Posted July 4, 2021 6 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said: It’s increasingly difficult to fact check though - you probably got that 39 figure from Atkinson’s Wiki page? Well that same page says he made his professional debut for Oxford in October 2020 - which is rubbish, he played in league games before that. And Oxford’s wiki page for the 2020/2021 season states that Atkinson made 36 league appearances last season ... ?! There are so many and varied sources these days - however, as you say, it’s still no excuse for The Post to apparently come up with the ‘ever present’ guff - for a start, Atkinson was sent off in Oxford’s game vs Lincoln in September 2020 - so it didn’t look good for an ever present campaign at that point! Wasn't that his league debut for them ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted July 4, 2021 Report Share Posted July 4, 2021 1 hour ago, bcfc01 said: Wasn't that his league debut for them ? Eh? Wiki said he made his professional debut for Oxford in October 2020 but he played league games for Oxford in September 2020 ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted July 4, 2021 Report Share Posted July 4, 2021 1 hour ago, bcfc01 said: Wasn't that his league debut for them ? Apologies Chief - I think I misunderstood your previous post - yep, I reckon Atkinson was sent off in the 95th minute of his professional league debut for Oxford United ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted July 5, 2021 Report Share Posted July 5, 2021 On 03/07/2021 at 19:39, GrahamC said: Does anyone fact check anything these days? I just checked Jacki Dziekanowski's numbers: £250,000; 43 appearances (in Clifton wine bar); 7 goals; one "rainbow flick" down the Open End v Ipswich. He might've livened up last season a little (woops, ended with an opinion there, not a fact). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Journalist Posted July 5, 2021 Report Share Posted July 5, 2021 18 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said: It’s increasingly difficult to fact check though - you probably got that 39 figure from Atkinson’s Wiki page? Well that same page says he made his professional debut for Oxford in October 2020 - which is rubbish, he played in league games before that. And Oxford’s wiki page for the 2020/2021 season states that Atkinson made 36 league appearances last season ... ?! There are so many and varied sources these days - however, as you say, it’s still no excuse for The Post to apparently come up with the ‘ever present’ guff - for a start, Atkinson was sent off in Oxford’s game vs Lincoln in September 2020 - so it didn’t look good for an ever present campaign at that point! Little tip - use Soccerbase for footie stats. I've never come across an inaccuracy regarding Premier League/EFL players. Although it turns out @GrahamC beat me to it, if I'd actually bothered to scroll down before replying! And some of us absolutely do factcheck, yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCulturalBomb Posted July 5, 2021 Report Share Posted July 5, 2021 Just seen some of his interview clips from signing for us. Man he speaks well for someone so young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Watts Posted July 5, 2021 Report Share Posted July 5, 2021 2 hours ago, TheCulturalBomb said: Just seen some of his interview clips from signing for us. Man he speaks well for someone so young. So does Taylor Moore...... Maturity in interviews doesn't mean a thing unfortunately. Even so....nice to know he's not a knuckle dragger! Got good vibes about him. Celtic's interest will show that he definitely has something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 5, 2021 Report Share Posted July 5, 2021 Welcome Rob. Young, room for growth- beat Celtic to the signing. Was thinking about the squad today, 4 CBs- 5 if you include Vyner, not even factoring in Cundy and his future or otherwise...Kalas, Atkinson, Baker, Moore- then if necessary Vyner and Cundy where does this place him? I appreciate Vyner is mainly RB now but in event of injury crisis etc. Probably good to have a decent number due to Baker's injuries last season, or prior to that a tendency to go off early in games, Cundy I know little about, I always had Moore down as 4th or 5th choice moving forward and that might be his position if indeed he stays. Kalas-Atkinson 1st choice, Baker first reserve and then Vyner/Moore/Cundy down the list? Given age, might need a bit of patience- a further step up, about to watch the interview now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 5, 2021 Report Share Posted July 5, 2021 On 03/07/2021 at 17:58, RobArnold10 said: Agree on the last sentence: we are moving to a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 I reckon, Nige has used that a lot in his career to great effect. I hope so, especially if the guy in front, ie central in the 3- a Johansen, a Crooks, a Marcondes to name 3- is one who can slot back and forward more readily as well as chipping in a few goals. Johnson at Preston another good example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diffy Posted July 5, 2021 Report Share Posted July 5, 2021 On 04/07/2021 at 13:15, exAtyeoMax said: He does look like he's from the same era as John Atyeo. There should be a comic strip about him, like Alf Tupper Bet he doesn't live on fish and chips like Alf did though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Watts Posted July 6, 2021 Report Share Posted July 6, 2021 16 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: I hope so, especially if the guy in front, ie central in the 3- a Johansen, a Crooks, a Marcondes to name 3- is one who can slot back and forward more readily as well as chipping in a few goals. Johnson at Preston another good example. Well it won't be Marcondes unfortunately. Signed for Bournemouth last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 6, 2021 Report Share Posted July 6, 2021 5 hours ago, Steve Watts said: Well it won't be Marcondes unfortunately. Signed for Bournemouth last week. Was just giving examples of the type of player I meant, but yes he did- probably on Parachute wages? They made some good cutbacks last season as well tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted July 6, 2021 Report Share Posted July 6, 2021 On 04/07/2021 at 13:15, exAtyeoMax said: He does look like he's from the same era as John Atyeo. There should be a comic strip about him, like Alf Tupper If there was he would surely have to known as Bobby Atkinson. He`d sound like a proper old school no nonsense northern centre half from the fifties then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseybean Posted July 14, 2021 Report Share Posted July 14, 2021 EP insights: https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/vanarama-van-dijk-joined-bristol-5629462 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted July 14, 2021 Admin Report Share Posted July 14, 2021 Did he play tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southport Red Posted July 14, 2021 Report Share Posted July 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, phantom said: Did he play tonight Yes, I thought he looked very calm on the ball. Worked well alongside Baker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted July 14, 2021 Report Share Posted July 14, 2021 13 minutes ago, Southport Red said: Yes, I thought he looked very calm on the ball. Worked well alongside Baker. Out of interest, who played Right and who played Left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted July 14, 2021 Report Share Posted July 14, 2021 Just now, Merrick's Marvels said: Out of interest, who played Right and who played Left? Atkinson on the left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted July 14, 2021 Report Share Posted July 14, 2021 Definite promise there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eardun Posted July 14, 2021 Report Share Posted July 14, 2021 1 hour ago, JonDolman said: Baker actually looked quite comfortable on the right. Both dominated their area Agree. I can’t recall Baker playing right side for us before and he looked more comfortable than I was expecting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted July 15, 2021 Report Share Posted July 15, 2021 For such a new partnership I thought they had a good understanding. Sometimes players just click and look right together, that’s the only way I can explain it, and they did. Without going overboard as it’s early days yet, and with Bakers injury prone history, I wouldn’t be unhappy if this was our CB pairing. But where does that leave Kalas... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodiesaffer Posted July 15, 2021 Report Share Posted July 15, 2021 1 hour ago, RedM said: For such a new partnership I thought they had a good understanding. Sometimes players just click and look right together, that’s the only way I can explain it, and they did. Without going overboard as it’s early days yet, and with Bakers injury prone history, I wouldn’t be unhappy if this was our CB pairing. But where does that leave Kalas... Left side of a back 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted July 15, 2021 Report Share Posted July 15, 2021 4 hours ago, RedM said: For such a new partnership I thought they had a good understanding. Sometimes players just click and look right together, that’s the only way I can explain it, and they did. Without going overboard as it’s early days yet, and with Bakers injury prone history, I wouldn’t be unhappy if this was our CB pairing. But where does that leave Kalas... Playing for another club? It wouldn't be a total surprise to get an offer or two for him, given the exposure he's just had. If that happened, I think we'd consider it, given the exorbitant (for us) salary we pay him and the stated desire to reduce our overall wage bill. I think Kalas is perfectly capable of playing top flight football in Germany, Spain, France or Italy. Not for one of the glamour clubs but certainly a mid table side - sides who will know all about him now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted July 15, 2021 Report Share Posted July 15, 2021 5 hours ago, Merrick's Marvels said: Playing for another club? It wouldn't be a total surprise to get an offer or two for him, given the exposure he's just had. If that happened, I think we'd consider it, given the exorbitant (for us) salary we pay him and the stated desire to reduce our overall wage bill. I think Kalas is perfectly capable of playing top flight football in Germany, Spain, France or Italy. Not for one of the glamour clubs but certainly a mid table side - sides who will know all about him now. I think you are exactly right, my thoughts exactly. I like Kalas but also got to admit he’s in the expensive luxury category. I’m not sure if luxury players are the way we are going now. More home grown (or at least younger players) with a sprinkling of wise experienced leaders to guide them. Kalas although Captain didn’t appear to lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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