downendcity Posted June 28, 2022 Report Share Posted June 28, 2022 1 minute ago, ExiledAjax said: Hang on, has Derby County Football Club Ltd come out of administration? Used to be called FLDCFC, then WRDCFC. Now, DCFCIA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted June 28, 2022 Report Share Posted June 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: Hang on, has Derby County Football Club Ltd come out of administration? Imminently. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted June 28, 2022 Report Share Posted June 28, 2022 22 minutes ago, chinapig said: Imminently. I'll check back in August then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted June 28, 2022 Report Share Posted June 28, 2022 22 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: I'll check back in August then. Which year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 28, 2022 Report Share Posted June 28, 2022 1 hour ago, downendcity said: Used to be called FLDCFC, then WRDCFC. Now, DCFCIA. HMRCDCFC? 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted June 28, 2022 Report Share Posted June 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: Yep, happens all the time…whether it should be is another matter. Wasn't this Birmingham's problem during the time of a previous manager or am I thinking about Wolves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted June 28, 2022 Report Share Posted June 28, 2022 10 minutes ago, Midred said: Wasn't this Birmingham's problem during the time of a previous manager or am I thinking about Wolves? You may be thinking of Jorge Mendes at Wolves. Despite being an agent he is their de facto head of recruitment. The FA decided that was fine, though he has been involved in cases of alleged tax evasion, third party ownership and others. As Gareth Southgate said, love the game, hate the business. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted June 28, 2022 Report Share Posted June 28, 2022 Didn't the Birmingham city manager's agent want a lot of influence over players as well? Gary Rowett? Or am I thinking of someone else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 28, 2022 Report Share Posted June 28, 2022 21 minutes ago, Midred said: Didn't the Birmingham city manager's agent want a lot of influence over players as well? Gary Rowett? Or am I thinking of someone else? Monk IIRC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 28, 2022 Report Share Posted June 28, 2022 (edited) I suppose I should ask- Stretford paying the wages as per the reports- any blame that can be attached to Derby or is it solely a agent/EFL/FA and maybe ex manager issue? Secondly- still no sign of those accounts, either with the EFL let alone online- I assume that the indicative figures are accurate but why do they not release...if all submitted as part of the takeover fair enough, but six or seven years of the accounts compiled correctly seems a must- 6 years in the public domain, up to last season to the Football League. What are they trying to hide exactly- if indeed they are. I wouldn't lift the Embargo until the full Group accounts in the correct format, are with the EFL at a minimum- from 2015/16 to 2020/21 and the as up to date figures as possible for 2021/22. Edited June 28, 2022 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 28, 2022 Report Share Posted June 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: I suppose I should ask- Stretford paying the wages as per the reports- any blame that can be attached to Derby or is it solely a agent/EFL/FA and maybe ex manager issue? Secondly- still no sign of those accounts, either with the EFL let alone online- I assume that the indicative figures are accurate but why do they not release...if all submitted as part of the takeover fair enough, but six or seven years of the accounts compiled correctly seems a must- 6 years in the public domain, up to last season to the Football League. What are they trying to hide exactly- if indeed they are. I’ve no idea, but had Stratford not paid them, they’d have likely missed the wages payment for this month and get minus 3 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 28, 2022 Report Share Posted June 28, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I’ve no idea, but had Stratford not paid them, they’d have likely missed the wages payment for this month and get minus 3 points. Indeed- you and me both, -3 if not but I wonder if the mechanism was authorised/made transparent to the EFL. Went on for much longer if true but I know Birmingham are under Investigation for issues of ownership and presumably funding. The spelling on 17 is terrible! That aside, quite simply I don't see what they have to gain from 16.2 and the P&S bit- 16.3 is excused while in admin but not when they exit...and even then there was an expectation to publish on the Derby website by the due date for 2020/21 from the Agreed Decision. No way should the EFL substantially lift the Embargo until all aspects are rectified. Logically it should be resolved on the takeover as that goes through... Any theories @Hxj as to why the accounts might still be hidden from view not only from the public but the EFL as well. Edited June 28, 2022 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hxj Posted June 28, 2022 Report Share Posted June 28, 2022 23 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Any theories @Hxj as to why the accounts might still be hidden from view not only from the public but the EFL as well. Because no one has prepared them. Administrators don't need to. The EFL will need to decide if they take the point further, I understand that they have detailed figures. Still likely that 'NewCo' will be used so there will be no further accounts for the companies currently in Administration. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 28, 2022 Report Share Posted June 28, 2022 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Hxj said: Because no one has prepared them. Administrators don't need to. The EFL will need to decide if they take the point further, I understand that they have detailed figures. Still likely that 'NewCo' will be used so there will be no further accounts for the companies currently in Administration. Thanks. Although it rather goes against the EFL "Agreed Decision" to publish on the website e.g. the 2020/21 ones. EFL have detailed figures- would that be in your view the correct format and covering the 6-7 years...certainly don't think the EFL should be under any obligation to lift the current embargo until such time as they receive them in full if detailed isn't full- stalemate in other words. Edited June 28, 2022 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted June 28, 2022 Report Share Posted June 28, 2022 4 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: HMRCDCFC? FFSWTFDCFC 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 28, 2022 Report Share Posted June 28, 2022 2 hours ago, Davefevs said: I’ve no idea, but had Stratford not paid them, they’d have likely missed the wages payment for this month and get minus 3 points. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted June 28, 2022 Report Share Posted June 28, 2022 8 minutes ago, Davefevs said: So the FA have joined the conspiracy against plucky little Derby? When will the fun agony end? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted June 28, 2022 Report Share Posted June 28, 2022 8 hours ago, chinapig said: Well, Derby fans have a history of being happy to have rule breakers associated with their club after all. Robert Maxwell - say no more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted June 28, 2022 Report Share Posted June 28, 2022 20 minutes ago, Davefevs said: oh my word! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted June 28, 2022 Report Share Posted June 28, 2022 3 hours ago, Davefevs said: I’ve no idea, but had Stratford not paid them, they’d have likely missed the wages payment for this month and get minus 3 points. If they are not paid, am I right that players can tear up their contracts and leave on a free? They might not then be able to muster a 5-a-side team! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hxj Posted June 28, 2022 Report Share Posted June 28, 2022 Looks as if the Football Club will be part of the Clowes Developments Group. I hope the Derby fans don't get too 'holier than thou' on the tax planning, or they might loose another buyer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted June 28, 2022 Report Share Posted June 28, 2022 23 minutes ago, downendcity said: If they are not paid, am I right that players can tear up their contracts and leave on a free? They might not then be able to muster a 5-a-side team! Think so. Also other circumstances could also mean that could happen too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEd73 Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 Finally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 Good. Fair enough. A relegation was sufficient punishment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 Looking forward to hearing all the next levels of detail, e.g. any embargo’s, restrictions, HMRC stuff etc. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 Just now, Davefevs said: Looking forward to hearing all the next levels of detail, e.g. any embargo’s, restrictions, HMRC stuff etc. That'll be imminent! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 Sky just said under a business plan with restrictions on fees, wages, etc for new signings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Sky just said under a business plan with restrictions on fees, wages, etc for new signings. Yep, the EFL statement says: Quote As part of the conditions of continuing membership in the EFL, the Club, whilst remaining under a registration embargo, will be permitted to sign new players in accordance with the terms of a business plan. The plan, which has been jointly agreed by the new ownership and the EFL, includes restrictions in respect of transfers fees, player wages and agents’ fees. Any application to register players must comply with the terms of those agreed plans. https://www.efl.com/news/2022/july/efl-statement-derby-county-exit-administration/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 Hopefully a new dawn, a new attitude, and a new perspective for the Club and everyone that supports it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBB Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 18 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: Hopefully a new dawn, a new attitude, and a new perspective for the Club and everyone that supports it. Yeeeeeah, about the last bit.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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