AppyDAZE Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 Ouch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, elhombrecito said: Fouls don't have to be deliberate. No, but it should be a foul. That wasn’t a foul. The Ukrainian has clattered someone who just kicked a ball. VAR completely skews it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedorDead BCFC Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, 054123 said: I didn’t even think it was a follow through. The Ukrainian had just clattered into him. VAR makes it look completely different I agree, in slow mo it takes away who went into who. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 This is the type of sending off that makes my blood boil. Danielson has legitimately gone to clear the ball and done so but because he's on the stretch and falling back he has caught the onrushing player. There is absolutely no intent or malice in the challenge which is nothing more than an accidental coming together even if a player gets hurt. The modern game is too soft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 Just now, RoystonFoote'snephew said: This is the type of sending off that makes my blood boil. Danielson has legitimately gone to clear the ball and done so but because he's on the stretch and falling back he has caught the onrushing player. There is absolutely no intent or malice in the challenge which is nothing more than an accidental coming together even if a player gets hurt. The modern game is too soft. Couldn’t agree more. Disgraceful decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 FFS, I thought we were watching Swedes v Ukraine ? All JP and t'other bloke can talk about is England ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 no difference to this. It was rescinded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 You go to the laws of the game. They say that a player is sent off if he commits, amongst other things, "serious foul play". That is defined as follows: SERIOUS FOUL PLAY A tackle or challenge that endangers the safety of an opponent or uses excessive force or brutality must be sanctioned as serious foul play. Any player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force or endangers the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 Still trying to fathom how Robbie Savage qualifies to play for Sweden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red DNA Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 Are Sweden still playing a flat pack four now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: no difference to this. It was rescinded. Very much different. The Sweden player got to the ball a fraction before the Ukrainian one, but it was still dangerous play. Balbuena's foot was following through from a regular kick. When Shaw had his leg broken a few years back, that was an example of a good tackle but a freak accident, and IIRC no red was given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 Another straight red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redtucks Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 10 minutes ago, slartibartfast said: FFS, I thought we were watching Swedes v Ukraine ? All JP and t'other bloke can talk about is England ! .....and not a 'kin mention of Bristol City either!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 Just now, 054123 said: Another straight red Exactly. Stupid game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 13 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: Any player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force or endangers the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play. Good job he didn’t lunge at the player and simply volleyed the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 Credit to the Ukraine player for staying with the Swede to make sure he was OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 Just now, Fordy62 said: Exactly. Stupid game. Where’s the VAR check that freezes the frame exactly as there is contact between the two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 1 minute ago, 054123 said: Where’s the VAR check that freezes the frame exactly as there is contact between the two? The 2 are very different, and there was significantly less danger to the opponent just now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 Just now, JamesBCFC said: The 2 are very different, and there was significantly less danger to the opponent just now. The two are very different? The outcome determines whether it’s a foul? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 Sweden are a dreadfully boring team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 Yes get in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, 054123 said: The two are very different? The outcome determines whether it’s a foul? 1st one the Sweden player has studs showing at knee height in a 50/50. He got there a fraction before the Ukraine player. 2nd one the Ukrainian player kicks the ball but catches the Swedish player who is sliding in with the followthrough. The 2nd one is actually comparable to the Balbuena one, which was rescinded, the 1st one isn't. The first one is a case of endangering the opponent, the second one is just a collision. Outcome doesn't decide anything, I already referenced the Shaw broken leg a few years ago which was a pure freak accident but actually a really good tackle by the defender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 Offside I reckon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 Just now, TomF said: Offside I reckon Goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 1 minute ago, JamesBCFC said: The first one is a case of endangering the opponent, the second one is just a collision. Which is where we disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanburyRed Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 Ukraine it is then..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 Deserved. Well done Ukraine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 Just now, BanburyRed said: Ukraine it is then..... They may have a few injuries to contend with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 Well the lower ranked team but can’t help think they’ll be a harder opposition than Sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 Glad it’s not Sweden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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